Cutting in Line

[MomOfMonkeys]

As a yearly WDW traveler, I have enjoyed the *wait* for rides before the days of FP's. I have had to hold, carry children for long periods of time before, and thankfully they were great nappers. They would nap on our shoulders, laps, etc. when we would wait. Then, when the show started, they were rested and ready for it to begin. Back then there were line cutters too, and I would get so bent out of shape, thinking "how could they be so rude" , "I'm just as important". I have matured I think in my later years, and it just doesn't bother me anymore.
Now that my kids are middle-school, high-school age, they have the FP! We do not run through the parks in the mornings to get to the machines in order to secure our "spot" on a ride, we just take it for what it is. We have been able to ride everything we wanted, just maybe not at 9am, sometimes it's 5pm, but we have so much fun all day anyway, we are not disappointed. Last year we were unable to get FP's for test track, but that didn't stop us, we just rode as single riders....that was just as fun to us! We don't go to WDW just to get our picture coming down Splash Mountain, although we do it every year. We just soak up every moment we have together, and the rides just add a little fun.
I guess my thought in all this is this......everywhere in life there are times where people test our limits, push our buttons. You have the power to let it bother you or not. If they cut, that's their problem. Is it going to ruin your whole "magical" day at the BEST PLACE ON EARTH??? NO WAY!

 

[DaniB]

... not an issue, because you were already in line ahead of me. As long as you make it back to the line before we get into the loading area, I have no problem with you coming back and getting back into your place in the line, especially if you have someone around you to vouch for you.

Oh my, I think you hit the nail on the head! You are right. If a family was already in line, and then a little kid realized they had to go - what issue is there really? The waiting time is still the same!

It seems the only real issue is those people who send someone ahead in line to "hold their spot" and then coming exusing their way half-way down the line. Not cool.

 

[MomOfMonkeys]

I also wanted to say I feel sorry for those "runners". You know, the one designated in the group to "run" after the fast passes. GEEZ.......what an exhausting job! Thank goodness I have never had to be one, or ask one of my family members to do so....
It does look silly some mornings too when you arrive at the park early and they "take off"! HAHAHA

 

[lostatdisney]

We were at CA at Disneyland yesterday and were some of the first ones into the park when it opened. We hurried back to Toy Story Mania to get in line. There were probably 30 people or so ahead of us. After we had been in line for about 5 minutes, we noticed 3 or 4 teenagers and adults climbing over the chains to join a group just in front of us. It took me awhile to realize what they were doing. My DS16 said, "Really? Really? You're just going to cut in line?" to which the mom in the group said, "Chill out, sweetie, everybody does it." Her husband moved her up away from our group, and my DH wisely kept his mouth shut. Now I really wish my son hadn't said anything, but I completely disagree with the woman's actions and logic. (Does she really want her kids using the "but everybody's doing it" excuse?) If our family is in a similar situation, the ones in line let others go ahead and wait for those behind so that we are not cutting. If it's just one person, I don't mind at all -that's fine. But for three or four teenagers/adults to do this is wrong, IMHO. Please let me know what you think! Am I being too uptight?

 

[selina4disney]

We were at CA at Disneyland yesterday and were some of the first ones into the park when it opened. We hurried back to Toy Story Mania to get in line. There were probably 30 people or so ahead of us. After we had been in line for about 5 minutes, we noticed 3 or 4 teenagers and adults climbing over the chains to join a group just in front of us. It took me awhile to realize what they were doing. My DS16 said, "Really? Really? You're just going to cut in line?" to which the mom in the group said, "Chill out, sweetie, everybody does it." Her husband moved her up away from our group, and my DH wisely kept his mouth shut. Now I really wish my son hadn't said anything, but I completely disagree with the woman's actions and logic. (Does she really want her kids using the "but everybody's doing it" excuse?) If our family is in a similar situation, the ones in line let others go ahead and wait for those behind so that we are not cutting. If it's just one person, I don't mind at all -that's fine. But for three or four teenagers/adults to do this is wrong, IMHO. Please let me know what you think! Am I being too uptight?

Not to me. I am right there with you. If everyone had that attitude you could get in a short line and have everyone ahead of you's family join and that could make a long line. Not that everyone would do it, but still...there is such a thing as etiquette even at a theme park.

 

[Suellen]

No one sees the problem with pushing your way BACK through the line to get out to use the potty and then back through the line past those SAME people to get back?

I think it is rude and while I understand sometimes you gotta leave the line. You don't GOTTA push your way back through 10 minutes later.

I wouldn't say anything to someone doing ~ but I wouldn't do it myself because I think it is a huge pain for everyone in the line as there usually not enough personal space in a line to begin with never mind if you have to mush up against someone to allow them, or someone else to squeeze by.

If one person wants to run off someplace to do something (I really don't think it matters what IT is) and that person wants to wait for at and "elbow" of the line to scoot under to join their party... well at least they aren't mushing past me.

 

[SpaceRangerEric]

I politely tell the person(s) that they cannot cut in line, but they are free to have the rest of their party come back and join them. That has worked out well so far.

 

[m_kasch]

I would never cut in line. When I was little, if I had to take a potty break...I either just held it, or my mom or dad got out of line with me and we didn't ride. You have to wait your turn, is what my parents taught me.

That being said, I am too big a wuss to not let people cut in front of me...you just never know when someones going to go bonkers on you. It should be CMs job to enforce this, not mine.

However, to the one that said they are a group of 13 so why does it matter...if there were 15 groups of 13 in front of you for, say, TSM...that is an ODD number, so that 13th person added an extra space. Now everyone behind those 15 groups has to wait 15 MORE cars to go on the ride. Is THAT fair? They have to wait longer so you don't?

Cutting is cutting.

 

[Dawgdad]

I politely tell the person(s) that they cannot cut in line, but they are free to have the rest of their party come back and join them. That has worked out well so far.

I would be very nice and just say, "seriously". But again, I must have a happy demeanor cuz no one has ever been anything but nice. Maybe they feel sorry for me when they see I have 5 kids. Either way - it takes ALOT to get me upset at Disney.

 

[larryz]

...After we had been in line for about 5 minutes, we noticed 3 or 4 teenagers and adults climbing over the chains to join a group just in front of us. It took me awhile to realize what they were doing. My DS16 said, "Really? Really? You're just going to cut in line?" to which the mom in the group said, "Chill out, sweetie, everybody does it." (Does she really want her kids using the "but everybody's doing it" excuse?) If our family is in a similar situation, the ones in line let others go ahead and wait for those behind so that we are not cutting. If it's just one person, I don't mind at all -that's fine. But for three or four teenagers/adults to do this is wrong, IMHO. Please let me know what you think! Am I being too uptight?

I can see it now...DD comes in at 4 am, saying, "Mom, Dad, I'm doing drugs and I'm 'best friends with benefits' with the whole basketball team, but I know you won't freak out, because like you told that lady at Disneyland, 'everybody does it'..."

You hit THAT nail squarely on. Bad behavior isn't made "right" just 'cause everyone's doing it... Kudo's to your son for having the ethical fortitude to stand up for what is right!

 

[momtolots]

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[disneymomma1978]

disclaimer: the following does not apply to someone already in line that has to leave that line b/c their small child needs a potty break

I don't care if your reasoning is FP's, food/drink breaks or some other creative excuse you come up with (except above), if you're planning to be at DW 11/28-12/7/10 and you try to cut in line, it's not going to happen if I'm ahead of you. I'll be nice about it, at first, but it's not going to happen. No offense intended.

Your party should wait for you. I'm not sure why people feel they're entitled to a spot in line that they never had to begin with.

 

[marielynn724]

i agree with a lot of the other posters - it doesn't bother me so much that it's only 1 person. after all, the rest of that family did wait in line like everyone else. i'd be a lot more annoyed if it was 1 person securing a spot in line for their whole family, who is off doing something else and then getting in the middle of a line where that 1 person was waiting.

i suppose though, that it could be argued that people in this situation (only the scenario of sending 1 person to get FPs) have obviously done their planning and know how to work the system to the best advantage, which is something that everyone has the opportunity to do.

 

[Disneyadore]

disclaimer: the following does not apply to someone already in line that has to leave that line b/c their small child needs a potty break

I don't care if your reasoning is FP's, food/drink breaks or some other creative excuse you come up with (except above), if you're planning to be at DW 11/28-12/7/10 and you try to cut in line, it's not going to happen if I'm ahead of you. I'll be nice about it, at first, but it's not going to happen. No offense intended.

Your party should wait for you. I'm not sure why people feel they're entitled to a spot in line that they never had to begin with.

But what would you do if a little kid crawled between your legs and was crying :"I lost my mommy"?
Your hart would melt right? Yeah and after a few minutes a family about seven persons were making a big fuss couse there little one was "lost" and came pushing along.
After seeing this trick twice I realist how clever this tricks was used.

 

[Planogirl]

I couldn't care less if it's just one person or one adult with a child. They would have been ahead of me anyway so why would I care if they left temporarily?

I feel differently if it's a large group though. That many people cutting in line is just plain rude.

 

[whitneyNC]

Everyone has a story, and we don't know the one belonging to the stangers around us. People need to worry about their own behavior, and be good role models for all the kids at WDW. If you feel uncomfortable catching up with your party in line, don't do it. I couldn't care less. It doesn't increase my wait time, and I don't know their situation.

 

[ShannonMB]

i suppose though, that it could be argued that people in this situation (only the scenario of sending 1 person to get FPs) have obviously done their planning and know how to work the system to the best advantage, which is something that everyone has the opportunity to do.

I would change *work* to cheat here, and agree, everyone has the same opportunity to cheat the system. Problem is, some of us are either too well mannered or too wussy to elbow past everyone else in line to catch up to their party -- so in this scenario, the _____ who does gets the advantage.

 

[kaytieeldr]

How can this NOT be considered cutting line? :

A fastpass runner secures the family FP's while the family joins a line elsewhere. The runner then passes other people who were clearly there before him to "rejoin his party." This technique is suggested in several touring plans I have examined. This Party is clearly enjoying an advantage of being at two places at the same time.

Does anyone else have a problem with this? I would have a hard time allowing someone to pass my children in a line when we were clearly there first.

Ethics aside (from which one should easily be able to infer my stance ), it's impossible to rejoin a party in a line in which you never existed originally.

 

[kaytieeldr]

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[kaytieeldr]

Doesn't bother me at all for single FP rider or child having to use the bathroom. Now last Sunday at Space Mtn there was a group of about 10 teens wanting to catch up with their party and I would not let them pass.

Respectfully (addressed to everyone who doesn't mind/care): how many groups WOULD bother you? One wouldn't. Got that. But if every tenth party at, say, Soarin' added an extra person - thinking back to that day the wait was four hours - how many people would you allow to pass you, how many different parties' FastPass runners would be okay to catch up to their parties, before it got to be too much?