CURRENT Good/Bad Internet and eBay Pin Sellers

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I started this post to be helpful in updating a thread that had become over 130 pages long and had not been updated. It was hard for people to sit through. I took the hours to do it and started this new post. I didn't have to devote that time to it. But I did it to be kind and helpful.

What I got in return was a lot of hate mail and harrassment. So, I left the board. It was only meant to be a temporary leave of absence, but the harrassment continued long after I stopped posting.

Then, three months ago I got the horrible news that my son more than likely had a genetic disease that is incredibly life shortening. Our world turned upside down. What do you think is more important? My son's life or this thread? If your answer is this thread there is something really wrong.

So for months we have gone through doctor after doctor, test after test, specialist after specialist. I don't say this to elicit pity. It's not who I am. And three days ago we got the best news we have had in months. Finally have some hope but still a long road ahead of us, more tests, more surgery. It's a lot to handle and to stay strong and keep a smile on my face so my son isn't scared.

So, that being said, I am sorry, but I will not be updating this thread ever again. I won't be contributing. I won't be reading. I've requested admins to deactivate my account. The only reason I even knew to come here and respond to this was because user

Disneylover1980 sent me this rude message. "PLEASE either update your ebay thread, or delete it. I know several of the sellers on your lists that are threatening ownership of the forum with defaming because of your lists and the fact that maybe ONE person complained about a transaction, they are automatically "red flagged" on your post. This post is over SIX MONTHS outdated. Either update it, or delete it. You assumed responsibility for the task...follow thru."

Have fun and good luck everyone. Pin trading is great and I support it 100%. I hope you all can find those grails that you love or complete those sets that you just need one last pin for...
 
Well, thank you for posting a PRIVATE message on the PUBLIC forum, but this is the truth. I DO know SEVERAL eBay sellers that are either on your RED list or Yellow lists and their BUSINESS ARE BEING HURT because it says SPECIFICALLY in the first post to "DO NOT BUY FROM THESE SELLERS..." There are sellers on the Red list that do not even have any crossed referenced feedback as to WHY they are on the list...it is just a Red Flag "DO NOT BUY."

I am very VERY sorry to hear of your son. I do understand that "real life" take priority over ANYTHING on the internet; however, your initial OUTDATED FIRST POST that EVERYONE reads is directing people to NOT buy from sellers....and that my friend IS VERY MUCH AFFECTING REAL LIFE situations with these sellers by hurting their bottom line in sales.

This is why eBay has a feedback system. People need to use the FEEDBACK system that eBay has in place for a buyer to make an educated decision about buying from certain sellers. I am ALL FOR offering Tips and tricks to try to get the biggest BANG for your BUCK, after all...Disney is EXPENSIVE and saving where you can is always a bonus. But defaming sellers for ONE bad experience is totally ludicrous.

So, I kindly ask again...and since you admitted that you can EDIT only YOUR posts....then EDIT the lists to JUST NOT EXIST. It removes liability from the forum. I have been in contact with Mods and Admins. I am awaiting their response, but is would be SO MUCH EASIER and cheaper to just EDIT the first post and REMOVE the lists of sellers.
 


I will never give my personal log-in information to anyone. That would be idiotic.

My life changed drastically, so no, I have not been on here all the time. I haven't been on here at all.

Feel free to start your own thread. I only started this one because the old one hadn't been updated in years and people were asking for it and at the time I was able to do it and tried to be helpful. But all I got was hate mail through PM's, comments posted that were so bad that the board administrators stepped in and deleted them, and someone actually sitting down and taking the time to read every single post I made to try to figure out who I am and then coming to harrass me in real life. Honestly, that scared the crap out of me, and that is when I took a break from this thread. Would you want someone doing that to you?

Well, the dissenter won't start his/her own thread, because I have repeatedly suggested that to no avail, that person would rather harass us on this thread then take any other actions.

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I started this post to be helpful in updating a thread that had become over 130 pages long and had not been updated. It was hard for people to sit through. I took the hours to do it and started this new post. I didn't have to devote that time to it. But I did it to be kind and helpful.

What I got in return was a lot of hate mail and harrassment. So, I left the board. It was only meant to be a temporary leave of absence, but the harrassment continued long after I stopped posting.

Then, three months ago I got the horrible news that my son more than likely had a genetic disease that is incredibly life shortening. Our world turned upside down. What do you think is more important? My son's life or this thread? If your answer is this thread there is something really wrong.

So for months we have gone through doctor after doctor, test after test, specialist after specialist. I don't say this to elicit pity. It's not who I am. And three days ago we got the best news we have had in months. Finally have some hope but still a long road ahead of us, more tests, more surgery. It's a lot to handle and to stay strong and keep a smile on my face so my son isn't scared.

So, that being said, I am sorry, but I will not be updating this thread ever again. I won't be contributing. I won't be reading. I've requested admins to deactivate my account. The only reason I even knew to come here and respond to this was because user

Disneylover1980 sent me this rude message. "PLEASE either update your ebay thread, or delete it. I know several of the sellers on your lists that are threatening ownership of the forum with defaming because of your lists and the fact that maybe ONE person complained about a transaction, they are automatically "red flagged" on your post. This post is over SIX MONTHS outdated. Either update it, or delete it. You assumed responsibility for the task...follow thru."

Have fun and good luck everyone. Pin trading is great and I support it 100%. I hope you all can find those grails that you love or complete those sets that you just need one last pin for...

I am so sorry about your son!!! My thoughts are with you now and forever, I wish we could stay in touch so I could hear all your good updates. You had nothing but problems with this thread and I'm sorry that something you tried to do to help turned out so badly for you. I for one, will miss you!

Well, thank you for posting a PRIVATE message on the PUBLIC forum, but this is the truth. I DO know SEVERAL eBay sellers that are either on your RED list or Yellow lists and their BUSINESS ARE BEING HURT because it says SPECIFICALLY in the first post to "DO NOT BUY FROM THESE SELLERS..." There are sellers on the Red list that do not even have any crossed referenced feedback as to WHY they are on the list...it is just a Red Flag "DO NOT BUY."

I am very VERY sorry to hear of your son. I do understand that "real life" take priority over ANYTHING on the internet; however, your initial OUTDATED FIRST POST that EVERYONE reads is directing people to NOT buy from sellers....and that my friend IS VERY MUCH AFFECTING REAL LIFE situations with these sellers by hurting their bottom line in sales.

This is why eBay has a feedback system. People need to use the FEEDBACK system that eBay has in place for a buyer to make an educated decision about buying from certain sellers. I am ALL FOR offering Tips and tricks to try to get the biggest BANG for your BUCK, after all...Disney is EXPENSIVE and saving where you can is always a bonus. But defaming sellers for ONE bad experience is totally ludicrous.

So, I kindly ask again...and since you admitted that you can EDIT only YOUR posts....then EDIT the lists to JUST NOT EXIST. It removes liability from the forum. I have been in contact with Mods and Admins. I am awaiting their response, but is would be SO MUCH EASIER and cheaper to just EDIT the first post and REMOVE the lists of sellers.

Are you one of the sellers on the red or yellow list? Again, as I have said repeatedly, if you don't like the way the thread is being run then start a new one yourself. It does no good to come on here and yell (and that's what CAPS are) and then do nothing to help resolve except to report the thread to mods and complain until it gets deleted. If you feel this strongly and you have the time then just update it yourself. :confused3
 
I refuse to start my own thread because I am a responsible person and I know that it will take time and a continued effort that I just cannot justify when I have a real life off of boards like these. To start a "list" and maintain it is not a decision to be taken on an impulse. The original list at least has links where you can read about the detailed experiences with certain eBay members and you can decide for yourself. THIS thread had a "DO NOT BUY FROM" list, and that creates a liability to ownership of the forum. It is unlawful and suit could be brought against the owners due to the verbiage.

EBay has a feedback system in place for a reason. There in no need to "reinvent the wheel." I am done here.

p.s. Thank you for the internet typing etiquette lesson, but I know what all caps means. I used that font technique to convey my point, because if I was face to face, I would have raised my voice to get my point across even though it was falling on deaf ears. It's called frustration from ignorance.
 


I refuse to start my own thread because I am a responsible person and I know that it will take time and a continued effort that I just cannot justify when I have a real life off of boards like these. To start a "list" and maintain it is not a decision to be taken on an impulse. The original list at least has links where you can read about the detailed experiences with certain eBay members and you can decide for yourself. THIS thread had a "DO NOT BUY FROM" list, and that creates a liability to ownership of the forum. It is unlawful and suit could be brought against the owners due to the verbiage.

EBay has a feedback system in place for a reason. There in no need to "reinvent the wheel." I am done here.

p.s. Thank you for the internet typing etiquette lesson, but I know what all caps means. I used that font technique to convey my point, because if I was face to face, I would have raised my voice to get my point across even though it was falling on deaf ears. It's called frustration from ignorance.

And as I have said before the OP had the time to maintain the thread when she started it, and as she explained her son got very ill, it's not like she planned to just leave the thread behind.

You did not have to use caps, you can simply use the bold font above, your repeated use of caps does not help you in your comments, in fact for many people it has the effect of making them completely pass over your comments. No offense meant of course, just something that I've been told in the past and actually find myself doing as well.

Of course eBay has a feedback system, unfortunately many users don't leave accurate feedback, it is my experience that feedback isn't always a great way to find a good seller, of any item on eBay. That is why many people find this thread (and the predecessors) to be helpful. If the mods delete it that will be up to them.
 
You know, I am one who does not agree with this thread. I've learned thru my trading experience that scrappers are a part of pin trading and just accept it. I do not believe that this thread is usefull at all because it will not change the reality of scrappers. But it's like a book, some find it amazingly usefull others don't. That being said, maintaining a thread like this is hard work and time consuming. And you get no money or a lot of gratitude. I stopped posting about giving advice on just going with scrappers on this particular thread because I respected the time and effort that goes into it. If you don't like the way this thread is being run, go start a new one yourself. I didn't think so. So do what I did, take this thread for what it is and be appreciative for the hard work that went into it wether you agree with it or not. And if there is something that needs to be said, start a new thread. Nothing's stopping you. Except maybe your willingness to keep one going.

You're right, the reality of scrappers won't change. If you don't care about getting scrappers, this thread is not for you. Nothing wrong with not caring, especially if you're collecting for your own personal collection but some people do, which is why threads like this exist. If you don't care about getting a scrapper, why even bother reading this?
 
You're right, the reality of scrappers won't change. If you don't care about getting scrappers, this thread is not for you. Nothing wrong with not caring, especially if you're collecting for your own personal collection but some people do, which is why threads like this exist. If you don't care about getting a scrapper, why even bother reading this?
The same reason I go watch the hunger games or Star Wars. Entertainment.
 
The same reason I go watch the hunger games or Star Wars. Entertainment.
Your comments were irrelevant. Nobody here actually thinks this thread (or any measure) will change the reality of scrappers; this is just a method some use to try and protect themselves.
 
I can't find the Good/Bad pin sellers page anymore. Can someone give me the most up-to-date URL. Much appreciated!

Lwhite58
 
Yes, due to extreme harassment (some that can be seen here) the OP deleted her entire post. Unfortunately the other threads were deleted as well. All that work down the drain due to a few people who couldn't understand the point behind the thread and didn't like the way the OP copy/pasted her information. Unfortunate.

Some of the trusted sellers I've used on eBay are, totaljohn, thewill (has been reported to have scrappers but I had good luck with him in the past), stitchchic916, sleepys_emporium, pinderellas_castle, gitanoman, please note that all sellers may not have inventory, also please note that these sellers are suggested by me because I have used them in the past, if scrappers are sent by these sellers please contact them for a resolution. :)
 
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