Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[Mit88]

People online were convinced Disney was never going to require masks, then never going to be able to enforce successfully, then never going to keep up the requirement beyond a few weeks, then going to drop the requirement when people weren’t rushing in, etc. Here we are nearly February 2021 with Disney having done an overall very good job and no real sign of masking going anywhere. When they go, it will not be based on popularity rather when Covid is no longer a major threat IMO (kind of like someone else said, quote this when I’m wrong and rub my nose in it haha), and while there are predications out there right now there’s nothing concrete enough that phone CMs are going to have any info to pass on.

My take, they’re not going anywhere anytime soon and making the indoor/outdoor or crowded area/not crowded distinction is not worth the hassle. I don’t think that’s pessimistic or optimistic. Masks are (or rather they should be) neutral and a tool that allows more normalcy than the absence of them would. I know that’s not how a lot of people view them, but it’s why I don’t think assuming they aren’t going away anytime soon is a pessimistic viewpoint to take. Doesn’t mean things aren’t or won’t get better.



Same, I read it as refuting that there is anything reputable leading to this rumour, not a lecture.

April 2020 I was on the “Disney won’t require masks when they reopen” wagon. Granted that was days after NY made it mandatory to wear them and it wasn’t until around the reopening announcement that it felt to me that masks were here to stay for the long haul. While the mask issue is long resolved, and any argument at this point is a losing battle, I don’t think it’s really a “you were naive if you thought Disney was reopening without masks”. As I said, most states weren’t even mandating masks until late April, early May, so for most of the period of Disney being closed to when they announced their reopening, masks were really not required in many places.

I don’t believe there’s any merit to the rumor I posted, and I didn’t bring it up to get that debate rolling again just because RTeetz can’t Deletez anymore. 99 times out of 100, if you hear it from a phone rep, especially one named Sven, it’s going to be false. There’s always that 1 out of 100, which is better than the 0 out of 100 track record Disney bus drivers have, but still very unlikely. And as I stated, it was probably the person/people making the phone call that misunderstood what they were saying, and what the customer service rep meant was probably in the summer when (hopefully) vaccines are ready and available for everyone, the mask mandate will be updated again (as they already have this past week) that a proof of vaccine doesn’t mean you won’t have to wear a mask. Disney is going to have to continue to reiterate that over the course of the next few months, and probably until masks are gone altogether because as we saw with people still expecting fireworks on NYE even though Disney continued to state they weren’t happening, people still didn’t listen

 

[Mit88]

And while the input from Andy is always appreciated, it does come off as lectures and a little “this is what’s happening, no need to discuss this any further”. If we all had that same mindset, this place would be very boring. Not all of us have inside sources, so all we have is speculation and banter. Most of us are going to be wrong when we speculate on our own without inside information, but even when I’m wrong, I wake up the next morning without having regrets of having said something that turned out wrong. It’s not hurting anyone to have these conversations.

 

[andyman8]

Honestly I took Andy’s post as more like an insider info thing than a lecture, but I know tone is difficult to read online.

Yeah, all I'm really trying to say is that if word had gone out to the large group of DRC CMs that even hinted at the prospect of potential changes to the mask policy, we would be seeing a lot more reports about it. And of course, that would require proactive and clear communication, something that DRC management isn't particularly known for. When Disney is getting ready to make a change (given all the logistics and people involved in that), I'm confident we'll all know.

But it just goes to how the same words can be read in different ways by different people so something for me to be more mindful of going forward.

 

[andyman8]

And while the input from Andy is always appreciated, it does come off as lectures and a little “this is what’s happening, no need to discuss this any further”. If we all had that same mindset, this place would be very boring. Not all of us have inside sources, so all we have is speculation and banter. Most of us are going to be wrong when we speculate on our own without inside information, but even when I’m wrong, I wake up the next morning without having regrets of having said something that turned out wrong. It’s not hurting anyone to have these conversations.

Just for sincere clarification, I've never intended to direct or shut down conversation on here. I'll definitely admit that I've gotten frustrated at times when we rehash certain arguments over and over, and I apologize that I've let that frustration bleed into my posts. My opinion caries no more weight than anyone else's here. It's not my role to dictate conversation here, and frankly, I appreciate everyone's input and have learned a lot from reading these boards. The last ten months have been frustrating for everyone, and I absolutely want to be doing my part to keep this a nice respite from all of that.

When I end a post or thought with a phrase like "That's all I'm going to say," or "I'm not going to say anything more," it's not to tell other posters to stop talking about it. This is a discussion board after all. What I'm saying is that I've said my piece, take it for what it's worth, and I'm not going to get into some "post war" or prolonged back-and-forth over who's "right." It's my brief way of saying that if I don't respond to a QP, it's nothing personal or not meant as a sign of disrespect. I've said my opinion, and I'll absolutely listen to and respect yours but I'm not going to get into some big argument over it. This is especially true for certain particularly hot topics, which can get very heated quickly and I personally try not to go down that rabbit-hole often. Genuinely, it's not ill-intentioned.

I try my best to be a thoughtful poster. Going forward, I've absolutely made a note of your feedback, and I just ask that you also assume my sincere best intentions. My PMs are always open for any feedback, comments, or the like from anyone here.

 

[Mit88]

Just for sincere clarification, I've never intended to direct or shut down conversation on here. I'll definitely admit that I've gotten frustrated at times when we rehash certain arguments over and over, and I apologize that I've let that frustration bleed into my posts. My opinion caries no more weight than anyone else's here. It's not my role to dictate conversation here, and frankly, I appreciate everyone's input and have learned a lot from reading these boards. The last ten months have been frustrating for everyone, and I absolutely want to be doing my part to keep this a nice respite from all of that.

When I end a post or thought with a phrase like "That's all I'm going to say," or "I'm not going to say anything more," it's not to tell other posters to stop talking about it. This is a discussion board after all. What I'm saying is that I've said my piece, take it for what it's worth, and I'm not going to get into some "post war" or prolonged back-and-forth over who's "right." It's my brief way of saying that if I don't respond to a QP, it's nothing personal or not meant as a sign of disrespect. I've said my opinion, and I'll absolutely listen to and respect yours but I'm not going to get into some big argument over it. This is especially true for certain particularly hot topics, which can get very heated quickly and I personally try not to go down that rabbit-hole often. Genuinely, it's not ill-intentioned.

I try my best to be a thoughtful poster. Going forward, I've absolutely made a note of your feedback, and I just ask that you also assume my sincere best intentions. My PMs are always open for any feedback, comments, or the like from anyone here.

I think for the most part, we all know your feedback and information is coming with well intentions. You’re one of the more reputable and intelligent posters here that knows far more than most of us when it comes to the goings on with a lot of the aspects within the company. All I was saying that sometimes, even if the rumors are far off base and have such a low possibility rate, it’s still fluid conversation. Sometimes, especially when it comes to the masks, it can definitely get off the rails quickly, and it’s been an exhausting conversation for most of the year that we’ve had them. I even said in my original post that I don’t even believe the rumor that I was posting and we’re looking at minimum another 10-12 months with masks in the parks and on property. But I thought, even with it being a long shot rumor it had more merit than a mask post saying “I’m done with masks, Disney needs to get rid of them by the summer”. And like I said in my post above, if it weren’t for a little dumb speculation the traffic on this page would be be cut significantly. In times like these, with all the negativity going on, it’s a safe haven for some to come in here and talk about a place we all love getting back to what we remember it being pre-March 2020, even if in the back of our minds we know it’s going to be much longer than we hope. My post wasn’t intended to come after you, I’m the last one hear that should be judging anyone for the way they come off as I rub a lot of people the wrong way here

 

[MickeyWaffles]

I get that.

I think sometimes it seems like showing signs of optimism or hope is taboo these days.

I understand that.

While I am pretty firm in my opinion about masks being a reality at Disney for quite some time yet, I do think we will see positive changes at WDW get phased in before that change happens. Fireworks, parades, shows, some longer hours, etc. I’m not just a big ball of negativity

And I could be wrong about all of it!

 

[yulilin3]

This is why I could never be a mod for this forum. The going around in circles on the same subject is maddening to me, I know some of you seem to enjoy it and that's fine since the nature of this forum includes rumors.
I would like to remind everyone that, as far as I know, this particular forum, is moderator-less at the moment, so please keep it as close to what Ryan would've wanted as possible, until a new mod comes along and will create their own threshold and guidelines.
Happy Monday and February everyone

 

[Farro]

I think we all did keep it respectful and sorry this type of conversation is annoying to others. I find a lot of stuff maddening on here.

So moving on...is Tron opening soon?

 

[SaintsManiac]

This is why I could never be a mod for this forum. The going around in circles on the same subject is maddening to me, I know some of you seem to enjoy it and that's fine since the nature of this forum includes rumors.
I would like to remind everyone that, as far as I know, this particular forum, is moderator-less at the moment, so please keep it as close to what Ryan would've wanted as possible, until a new mod comes along and will create their own threshold and guidelines.
Happy Monday and February everyone

Ryan had the patience of a saint dealing with us. I might be making myself scarce again depending on how becomes the mod.

 

[yulilin3]

Ryan had the patience of a saint dealing with us. I might be making myself scarce again depending on how becomes the mod.

this thread requires tons of patience because of the nature of it. Other threads are more concise in the goal which makes easier to moderate as in not straying to far from the original topic. Here I could come and say that Spectromagic is coming back and it could be discussed and dissected ad nauseam because it is a rumors board

 

[yulilin3]

I think we all did keep it respectful and sorry this type of conversation is annoying to others. I find a lot of stuff maddening on here.

So moving on...is Tron opening soon?

you don't have to be sorry, you are in the right place for this. Since it's annoying to me I just don't partake in the discussion

 

[osufeth24]

This is why I could never be a mod for this forum. The going around in circles on the same subject is maddening to me, I know some of you seem to enjoy it and that's fine since the nature of this forum includes rumors.
I would like to remind everyone that, as far as I know, this particular forum, is moderator-less at the moment, so please keep it as close to what Ryan would've wanted as possible, until a new mod comes along and will create their own threshold and guidelines.
Happy Monday and February everyone

Shoot, I don't even know how you deal with the main section of the board, and the Galaxy's Edge portion too. Same thing over and over again.

 

[zumfelde]

And no, I don’t see mask rules changing any time soon. Any rumors to the contrary are likely just wishful thinking.

As it stands, if you have a WDW reservation on the books, you should be prepared to wear a mask in all public spaces, including outdoors. I’m not going anymore into this.

Disney should be able to make mask optional by this summer. The government says anyone that wants a vaccine will be able to get one by this summer. When that happens it it up to each person to take responsibility for their health and not rely on anyone else to wear a mask to protect them.

 

[SaintsManiac]

Disney should be able to make mask optional by this summer. The government says anyone that wants a vaccine will be able to get one by this summer. When that happens it it up to each person to take responsibility for their health and not rely on anyone else to wear a mask to protect them.

And WDW specifically posted on their site that vaccinated people still have to wear them.

 

[Sarahslay]

Disney should be able to make mask optional by this summer. The government says anyone that wants a vaccine will be able to get one by this summer. When that happens it it up to each person to take responsibility for their health and not rely on anyone else to wear a mask to protect them.

I look at it this way, and I say this to those I work with in hospitals "the vaccine just means you can breathe easier when surrounded by people making poor choices, it doesn't mean you can stop doing everything in your power to be safe for yourself and everyone else around you". It means I can go to WDW and not feel iffy when I get in to the bottleneck outside of Small World, or when the family behind me in line with their noses peaking out are getting a little too close for comfort.

 

[Farro]

I loook at it this way, and I say this to those I work with in hospitals "the vaccine just means you can breathe easier when surrounded by people making poor choices, it doesn't mean you can stop doing everything in your power to be safe for yourself and everyone else around you". It means I can go to WDW and not feel iffy when I get in to the bottleneck outside of Small World, or when the family behind me in line with their noses peaking out are getting a little too close for comfort.

Yes and most definitely right now when not a lot of people have been vaccinated!

I had my first dose (second dose Wednesday) and I don't freak out as much when people are standing on top of me in a store. I mean, I still don't like, but for non covid-related reasons.

 

[SaintsManiac]

https://blogmickey.com/2021/02/thre...ons-now-closed-on-weekdays-through-march-8th/
Starting today, three Magic Kingdom dining locations are now closed Monday-Thursday, only opening for larger crowds on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday:

• Tomorrowland Terrace Restaurant
• The Lunching Pad
• Westward Ho

While we’ve already covered the Tomorrowland Terrace Restaurant and Lunching Pad closures, Westward Ho is a new addition to the list.

 

[osufeth24]

Ugh. Was going to go to Disney Springs this morning to meet Ahsley, ended up having to make a doctor's appointment instead. Booo

Did see someone who is there thinks there's at least a hundred people. Said line wrapped around the marketplace all the way to basin

 

[bookbabe626]

Pretty much in this group. I’m in. Many FB groups for various places and theme parks and by far the Disney groups are the most pessimistic.

The Dis is a hotbed of optimism and positive energy compared to CruiseCritic lately...if you were to take most of the posts there at face value every cruise line is going out of business and there will never be cruising again.

 

[jlwhitney]

The Dis is a hotbed of optimism and positive energy compared to CruiseCritic lately...if you were to take most of the posts there at face value every cruise line is going out of business and there will never be cruising again.

Wow! I have never been on Cruise critic...lol.