Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

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Which is why Disney may be better off allowing people to take a break from masks while walking around outside. No one is spreading the virus while walking down Main Street .. but sitting in a theater for 30-40 minutes. Yikes.

They need to shift enforcement to those indoor spaces and not worry about the outdoor ones so much.

Maybe if people know they can freely take them off while outside or taking photos they would be LESS likely to rip them off in a show.
or people who are allowed to not wear outside will just as well not wear them inside or when of of sight of a CM. Right now the best situation is what Disney is doing, over at SWO they allow people to unmask for a picture and walk around without a mask while eating or drinking, this has made every person have a bottle of soda or beer or water and just walk around without really drinking but also without wearing a mask, same with pics, now they pretend to take a picture everywhere. If people weren't so eager to break the rules and more responsible less self centered and selfish your scenario would work.
And of course someone who is infected would spread the virus while walking around, imagine walking behind or towards someone with the virus and ask you pass them they sneeze, or cough or talk, of course they can spread it
 
I wish Disney, and most mask manufacturers, would apply the thin adjustable ear elastic. It's not the mask size that bothers me with most of the themed ones, it's the relative depth of my head/ears to my face. I find the thicker style ear straps Disney and Universal both use pull my ears uncomfortably forward. I've tried the "mask extender" straps, but they don't hold the mask in place as well as the ear loops do.

Disney's sizing is not super consistent, either. I have four masks all in large - three of them fit comfortably all day, one is slightly smaller and hurts my ears after a while.
 

or people who are allowed to not wear outside will just as well not wear them inside or when of of sight of a CM. Right now the best situation is what Disney is doing, over at SWO they allow people to unmask for a picture and walk around without a mask while eating or drinking, this has made every person have a bottle of soda or beer or water and just walk around without really drinking but also without wearing a mask, same with pics, now they pretend to take a picture everywhere. If people weren't so eager to break the rules and more responsible less self centered and selfish your scenario would work.
And of course someone who is infected would spread the virus while walking around, imagine walking behind or towards someone with the virus and ask you pass them they sneeze, or cough or talk, of course they can spread it

Yeah, definitely has been highlighted during all of this that when you give people an inch, at least some of them will take a mile.

So Disney has had to go the other way and tighten up so only giving a centimeter, and then a milimeter
 
Which is why Disney may be better off allowing people to take a break from masks while walking around outside. No one is spreading the virus while walking down Main Street .. but sitting in a theater for 30-40 minutes. Yikes.

They need to shift enforcement to those indoor spaces and not worry about the outdoor ones so much.

Maybe if people know they can freely take them off while outside or taking photos they would be LESS likely to rip them off in a show.

You don’t think the virus would potentially spread between people crammed together on Main Street waiting for the cavalcades? Or the people crowding around the hub waiting for the holiday projections? We’ve seen lots of photos of close bigger crowd situations lately. The typical crowd traffic jam through Fantasyland between PPF & IASW has been happening too.

I agree, walking down Main Street distanced -not a big deal. But there are situations outside where people are crowding together, and it’s a very good things masks are required. It would get too complicated to say you need to wear them outside here, but not there, etc.
 
or people who are allowed to not wear outside will just as well not wear them inside or when of of sight of a CM. Right now the best situation is what Disney is doing, over at SWO they allow people to unmask for a picture and walk around without a mask while eating or drinking, this has made every person have a bottle of soda or beer or water and just walk around without really drinking but also without wearing a mask, same with pics, now they pretend to take a picture everywhere. If people weren't so eager to break the rules and more responsible less self centered and selfish your scenario would work.
And of course someone who is infected would spread the virus while walking around, imagine walking behind or towards someone with the virus and ask you pass them they sneeze, or cough or talk, of course they can spread it
Yeah was going to say the same thing. If they allow people to wear them outside, those same people will just then never wear them. They’ll have them off outside and inside. And I have to say, living in Florida, one of the only places I feel safe in the state is at WDW because of the mask requirement outside. You definitely can get closer than comfort to others outside and it’s nice to know everyone is masked.

Outside at certain resorts is the only place I could see masks going away first. Staying at OKW you can definitely remain far away from others when just out for a walk. But even dropping the requirement there would cause a rippling of repercussions
 
You don’t think the virus would potentially spread between people crammed together on Main Street waiting for the cavalcades? Or the people crowding around the hub waiting for the holiday projections? We’ve seen lots of photos of close bigger crowd situations lately. The typical crowd traffic jam through Fantasyland between PPF & IASW has been happening too.

I agree, walking down Main Street distanced -not a big deal. But there are situations outside where people are crowding together, and it’s a very good things masks are required. It would get too complicated to say you need to wear them outside here, but not there, etc.
ITA. When I visited in late Aug., I'd have made a case for masks not being necessary while walking around outdoors because there was so much open space available. But my late Oct. visit? Nope. No way. Walkways weren't (to me) uncomfortably congested, but enough that mask use felt absolutely necessary. And for sure, it would make enforcement impossible if they were to be required in tight spaces, but not in more open spaces - that would leave waaaay too much open to individual interpretation.
 
ITA. When I visited in late Aug., I'd have made a case for masks not being necessary while walking around outdoors because there was so much open space available. But my late Oct. visit? Nope. No way. Walkways weren't (to me) uncomfortably congested, but enough that mask use felt absolutely necessary. And for sure, it would make enforcement impossible if they were to be required in tight spaces, but not in more open spaces - that would leave waaaay too much open to individual interpretation.
Ya .. I don't disagree that it is EASIER to enforce (and less confusing to guests) just to say wear masks all the time .. but .. I personally don't feel like you are catching the virus walking past someone on a crowded street. Most studies show that virus is spreading with prolonged 10-15+ minutes contact with an infected person indoors which is only happening in a queue. But that is just me .. that is MY comfort level.

But that's my opinion .. Disney is going to do what they feel they need to do and everyone (100%) that walks through those gates should abide by those rules 100% of the time .. or just choose not to go. But even with rules (and enforcements) in place . there will be a few (hopefully a minor few) who will not comply for whatever reason or another, and the rest of us just have to learn to live with that in public spaces.
 
Ya .. I don't disagree that it is EASIER to enforce (and less confusing to guests) just to say wear masks all the time .. but .. I personally don't feel like you are catching the virus walking past someone on a crowded street. Most studies show that virus is spreading with prolonged 10-15+ minutes contact with an infected person indoors which is only happening in a queue. But that is just me .. that is MY comfort level.

But that's my opinion .. Disney is going to do what they feel they need to do and everyone (100%) that walks through those gates should abide by those rules 100% of the time .. or just choose not to go. But even with rules (and enforcements) in place . there will be a few (hopefully a minor few) who will not comply for whatever reason or another, and the rest of us just have to learn to live with that in public spaces.

but as they increase capacity and potentially bring back parades and night time shows, no all of sudden you are near the same people for 10-15min+ even when outside

I agree with you if they are going to keep capacity low so that you can easily avoid people, then that would be one thing

I see maintaining makss, in all situations, as a means to enable increasing capacity which is what they need to be able to justify the cost of bringing back more things
 
but as they increase capacity and potentially bring back parades and night time shows, no all of sudden you are near the same people for 10-15min+ even when outside

I agree with you if they are going to keep capacity low so that you can easily avoid people, then that would be one thing

I see maintaining makss, in all situations, as a means to enable increasing capacity which is what they need to be able to justify the cost of bringing back more things
And that's fine .. having some temporary (relatively) inconveniences (like putting glass shields on ride vehicles) to help bring back "normal" while increasing capacity is fine.

So if wearing masks 100% of the time helps bring back other things back like M&Gs or fireworks .. that's fine too. I wouldn't be excited to have a masked photo with a character, but I'd rather have one of those than NOT have the opportunity at all.

I definitely feel social distancing (like we are seeing with the ride vehicles) will go before masks . I mean .. I guess technically it already is if reports of crowded main street and hubs to watch the shows is accurate.
 
Looks like Cafe Rix is definitely opening☺ ( sorry if this has already been posted)
 

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I’m not sure how many more are capable. I suppose you could do more boat rides next like they did with Frozen.
Are there other ride restrictions besides the large multi-party vehicles? I am curious - (haven't really researched). Are they loading every other vehicle or something on omnimovers? Are they separating people on Soaring somehow? Are they loading every other row on the coasters? Are they not letting every animal be ridden on the carousel?
 
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