Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

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Unnamed site reporting that Tron is in turmoil and most likely won't be open for the 50th... Yikes if thats true.
Well they are behind schedule by several months, and there are a lot of supply chain issues going on in the construction industry right now so I can see how this could be an issue. I mean, even down to building a house we are having some issues because certain supplies just aren't being manufactured at the rate they just were. Contractors are probably also working differently due to social distancing, and possibly lower staff at times due to illness, so that gets thrown in to the mix of putting it behind schedule as well.
 
I'm not advocating for FP to come back, per se. Just don't agree with the assertion that wait times are shorter now because FP is gone. In many cases, I don't believe ride times are shorter, which is a pure capacity issue.

I thnk the issue is this... at 25% capacity in the park but rides running probably at 30-40% capacity overall (smaller groups are going to really lower capacity) then lines overall are going to be pretty close to what they were before. Maybe a little shorter or a little longer depending on line but the smaller capacity in the park kinda cancels out the lower capacity on the ride. However as was stated, adding FPs would increase standby lines AND people who are not in a standby line but waiting on a FP you need a place to put them and those places (shows, etc.) don't really exist right now so you would crowd the areas that are open with people waiting on FP.
 
When sites start using terms like "in turmoil" i suspect it's a click bait article.
This is from poster Seanual757 at WDWmagic.

Seeing I am a vendor who sends product to the job site we have been told from the GC and they are pulling crews out.... We have nothing scheduled for the rest of 2020 heading to the site.

TRON WILL NOT open fall of 2021. The exterior will be completed to clean up the area (still tons of work to be done). December will end the construction on this project and it will be suspended until October 2021. The outdoor canopies will continue to go up during the winter and into 2021. Depending on how the economy and attendance goes construction will pick back up fall of 2021. Plan on Spring/Summer 2022 for an opening.
 

This is from poster Seanual757 at WDWmagic.

Seeing I am a vendor who sends product to the job site we have been told from the GC and they are pulling crews out.... We have nothing scheduled for the rest of 2020 heading to the site.

TRON WILL NOT open fall of 2021. The exterior will be completed to clean up the area (still tons of work to be done). December will end the construction on this project and it will be suspended until October 2021. The outdoor canopies will continue to go up during the winter and into 2021. Depending on how the economy and attendance goes construction will pick back up fall of 2021. Plan on Spring/Summer 2022 for an opening.
FINALLY A POST THAT DOESN’T DEBATE FREAKING FP!

But Dude- downer 😔
 
This is from poster Seanual757 at WDWmagic.

Seeing I am a vendor who sends product to the job site we have been told from the GC and they are pulling crews out.... We have nothing scheduled for the rest of 2020 heading to the site.

TRON WILL NOT open fall of 2021. The exterior will be completed to clean up the area (still tons of work to be done). December will end the construction on this project and it will be suspended until October 2021. The outdoor canopies will continue to go up during the winter and into 2021. Depending on how the economy and attendance goes construction will pick back up fall of 2021. Plan on Spring/Summer 2022 for an opening.

Booo that really stinks.
 
The PeopleMover situation is starting to make my stomach hurt. I cannot imagine going to the MK and not riding it.
The peoplemover definitely seems like there is a real issue there. We were in the park a week before the closure in March and we rode the peoplemover twice, both times it broke down and we had to walk the track and exit through the emergency staircase (once in Space Mountain and once near Buzz). So they were definitely having issues prior to the shutdown and then I’m guessing that the extended downtime didn’t help whatever that issue was.
 
The peoplemover definitely seems like there is a real issue there. We were in the park a week before the closure in March and we rode the peoplemover twice, both times it broke down and we had to walk the track and exit through the emergency staircase (once in Space Mountain and once near Buzz). So they were definitely having issues prior to the shutdown and then I’m guessing that the extended downtime didn’t help whatever that issue was.


Oh yeah I know it needs major work. I'm just scared it's going to close forever.
 
The peoplemover definitely seems like there is a real issue there. We were in the park a week before the closure in March and we rode the peoplemover twice, both times it broke down and we had to walk the track and exit through the emergency staircase (once in Space Mountain and once near Buzz). So they were definitely having issues prior to the shutdown and then I’m guessing that the extended downtime didn’t help whatever that issue was.

Even when it was working you had things like taffic cones on certain seats that couldn't be used. It was in need for work well before COVID.
 
The PeopleMover situation is starting to make my stomach hurt. I cannot imagine going to the MK and not riding it.

We have gone to WDW with various big attractions down for refurb, Splash Mountain, POTC, and Space Mountain being 3 I remember clearly. The saddest hands down was the trip where Peoplemover was down (Space and it were down together, I think).

Tomorrowland feels empty without it zipping around up there. Yes I’m being dramatic but at least it’s not about pandemic things 😂.
 
The Tron article says they're waiting for cash but Disney is currently sitting on about $23 billion in cash. I don't know if it'll be ready for next October but I would think that they will try to make that happen. My bet is that it is up and running next October.
 
The Tron article says they're waiting for cash but Disney is currently sitting on about $23 billion in cash. I don't know if it'll be ready for next October but I would think that they will try to make that happen. My bet is that it is up and running next October.
I hope you're right for our trip next year but this article from a more reliable source states not till 2022. Yikes!

https://www.wdwmagic.com/attraction...ing-increasingly-unlikely-to-open-in-2021.htm
 
We have gone to WDW with various big attractions down for refurb, Splash Mountain, POTC, and Space Mountain being 3 I remember clearly. The saddest hands down was the trip where Peoplemover was down (Space and it were down together, I think).

Tomorrowland feels empty without it zipping around up there. Yes I’m being dramatic but at least it’s not about pandemic things 😂.


I just told my husband that I know I am being dramatic about this, but I don't care!!!! :sad:
 
seriously ... welcome to the 50th anniversary of Walt Disney World!!! Please note the latest addition to the Magic Kingdom can be looked at but not experienced - we apologize for the tease, but please enjoy this specialty cupcake for $8.99

...and your $4.50 bottle of water to wash it down!
 
I think it’s like before the pandemic when we used to talk about how the crowded feel at the parks was made worse by Disney having less regular hours than years past with record breaking crowds. Those are the types of things that would be overall helpful right now, to lowering wait times. The best fix is always going to be increased capacity, achieved by more things to do, more time to get more people through things, and the pandemic specific fix - more people in each vehicle/theatre. Some FP like program doesn’t necessarily help overall although it may help the small group of people who can utilize it well, which it makes sense would be tougher in current WDW. FP+ itself is notorious for ruining a lot of the traditional walk on or low wait attractions, and this was accomplished by adding FP+ to it.

At the end of the day the problem right now is capacity on specific attractions as well as overall park capacity. To take the heat off of certain attractions, restaurants, and stores, the only thing that would really work well IMO is more to do or more time to do it in. Even a virtual queue system is still a problem when those people not standing in line are looking for something to do.

TBH I’m not convinced Disney is ready to staff parks and run things at the level that would make a difference. I don’t know that they do see this as a problem that needs fixing like we do, unless fixing means Genie granting wishes for a fee. I wonder if they coast until attraction and park capacity can be safely increased. So many of our conversations here are about Disney just doing X, Y, or Z and they would make more money, and those things probably would increase revenues but I think we’re just looking at a totally different WDW than March 2020 and before, and some of those things are not worth the cost right now. Otherwise, I think they’d already be happening.

We visited Universal yesterday and it was pretty crazy to see the staffing difference. Not a single retail store anywhere at Universal had an employee monitoring access to retail stores. It was....odd.

You bring up a solid point about what Disney is willing to do from a staffing standpoint. At some point, they're better off shutting the parks from a purely financial standpoint rather than adding more staff. Just not sure where that tipping point is.
 
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