Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[yulilin3]

@yulilin3- were you at Uni today? How was it? Looked like the wait times were pretty high according to the app. I was thinking they would be dead bc of Disney‘s opening days, but it doesn’t look that way.

BTW thanks for your reports and live streams- they are very helpful and enjoyable!

I was there yesterday, rode hagrid's twice before 10am and managed to get a 3rd vq reservation iiib the afternoo. Lines were averaging 45 min midway but last 2 hours was pretty dead

 

[apinknightmare]

I'm sure this was asked and answered 100 pages or so ago, but... How do we think Disney feels about opening weekend? Less than anticipated? If crowds remain exceptionally low like this, what do you think they will do? Ex. increase capacity/sell more tickets, announce a sudden price increase, cut hours/attractions?

I don't think they'll close again unless there's a huge outbreak amongst cast members that makes it hard to staff, so I would guess they'll cut hours/attractions if they do anything at all.

 

[AmberMV]

Is the current heat abnormal? I’ve been down a few times during summer and it always feels that hot. One day was a real feel of 110!

It's not abnormal heat, it's the mask that makes it a lot harder

 

[Anna_Sh]

Is the current heat abnormal? I’ve been down a few times during summer and it always feels that hot. One day was a real feel of 110!

This is hotter than some years, but it’s not really unusual. That’s one reason my family doesn’t splurge on APs without blackouts. We really don’t mind not going in July

 

[anthony2k7]

So why does everyone think disney has "paused" the sale of new APs?

Is it just to help manage the capacity of the AP reservations bucket?

Or some other reason? Substantial price changes coming perhaps?

 

[KayMichigan]

I think Disney is probably sort of shocked by how few guests turned up for opening. If it was as empty as it looked on the vlogs, I doubt they made it even halfway to the limit. And that's bad news for the bottom line. There might have been more employees there than guests.

 

[ryanpatricksmom]

That’s definitely some good practice. I have been playing rounds of golf with my mask on for the past few weeks to get more used to it.

I have never found it overly difficult to keep mine on for long periods of time while out in the course.

I played 18 this morning before the hike, but without a mask. I suck enough at golf without adding another element to affect my game, LOL!

 

[anthony2k7]

I think Disney is probably sort of shocked by how few guests turned up for opening. If it was as empty as it looked on the vlogs, I doubt they made it even halfway to the limit. And that's bad news for the bottom line. There might have been more CMs and employees there than guests.

If there were more CMs than guests then they definitely didn't hit "positive contribution" required for parks to be open.

 

[Anna_Sh]

I think Disney is probably sort of shocked by how few guests turned up for opening. If it was as empty as it looked on the vlogs, I doubt they made it even halfway to the limit. And that's bad news for the bottom line. There might have been more CMs and employees there than guests.

It doesn’t really look that empty to me—at least not to an unprecedented degree. I’ve been there in the months after 9/11 and in hurricane season, and the crowd level seems comparable to that.

 

[Ryan King]

How long have you all been able to stay in the parks before surrendering to go back to the resort? I'm a Floridian and we surrendered after 4 hours. I'm pretty confident the heat is the reason the parks are somewhat empty, because the capacity is set for the day and if everyone just spends a few hours each then the parks will always seem a bit empty. Orlando was another 104*F heat index today.

We were in Disneyland two years ago went it hit a record temp of 114°. Not only was that the day of a global IT outage for MaxPass etc. It was also a brownout for DL had to shut a ton of rides like Splash Mtn and Grizzly. People were dropping like flies. Our kids muscled through and we walked onto rides like Thunder Mtn which felt like being in a oven with a hair dryer pointed at us. The park cleared out. So I can imagine heat being a major factor.

 

[everreal15]

I played 18 this morning before the hike, but without a mask. I suck enough at golf without adding another element to affect my game, LOL!

Hahaha...to say my own game is in a major slump right now would be an understatement. Lol. But at least I have something to blame it on when playing with a mask....

 

[hereforthechurros]

So why does everyone think disney has "paused" the sale of new APs?

Is it just to help manage the capacity of the AP reservations bucket?

Or some other reason? Substantial price changes coming perhaps?

I thought they stopped selling APs a while ago?

 

[Pickle Rick]

I don't think they'll close again unless there's a huge outbreak amongst cast members that makes it hard to staff, so I would guess they'll cut hours/attractions if they do anything at all.

Or if Universal closes, or if things get out of hand in Orange County specifically.

 

[chicagoshannon]

It doesn’t really look that empty to me—at least not to an unprecedented degree. I’ve been there in the months after 9/11 and in hurricane season, and the crowd level seems comparable to that.

I agree. It looked very similar to the first hour or two of a MNSSHP day I attended last October (8am).

 

[vinotinto]

We had an interesting experience at Restaurantosaurus today at noon. It was not busy. We ordered at the register to get the TIW discount. (BTW, the CM who was managing today told us that they have been asking IT to add TIW to mobile ordering.)

We got our food very quickly, picked up our drinks, and sat in the dining area to the right, just outside of the camper dining area.

There was a party of 10 plus people seated a few tables away. One member of that party decided to get into a full-on COVID-19 argument with some of his companions. He was yelling at them.

One CM looked like he wanted to ask the guy to stop, but the CM did not intervene. Other diners in the room looked shocked, just as we were.

After two minutes of listening to his rant, we loaded all of our food back onto the trays and moved to the camper room. We could still hear his voice, but not the specifics.

I didn’t want to hear that argument while on a family vacation. It’s WDW, folks. Leave the hot takes at home.

Also, did I mention that it’s hot here?

hey! Was your TIW extended? I’m starting to sound like a broken record with this question, lol.We’ll be there in 6 days and ours expired during the closing and we need it extended to cover all the TS dining we are planning.

 

[Sandisw]

So why does everyone think disney has "paused" the sale of new APs?

Is it just to help manage the capacity of the AP reservations bucket?

Or some other reason? Substantial price changes coming perhaps?

I think because what they would be selling as an AP is missing so many features of a normal AP..no park hopping and limits.

While it can still make financial sense if multi day tickets, it’s not the same and I think that is why.

 

[anthony2k7]

I thought they stopped selling APs a while ago?

Not according to various news stories this evening

 

[Clockwork]

Yeah, I get that. I was thinking of it more of as a way to gather data, than to "tattle", but you are right about what you said.

I wonder what other alternatives there could be.

Obviously, there are some people who are not following the rules, and I feel like management needs to know about it so they can identify the issues and problem solve. CMs can't be everywhere, so I would like to see some kind of system for collecting data, even if that is just an optional survey that they send out after your park visit.

They can’t have CM’s everywhere but they do have cameras, security just needs to do there job.

 

[AmberMV]

I think because what they would be selling as an AP is missing so many features of a normal AP..no park hopping and limits.

While it can still make financial sense if multi day tickets, it’s not the same and I think that is why.

Good point. I think if there is any price adjustment it will be to lower the price to reflect the lack of benefits, and then pass a refund on to current APs (I'd hope)

 

[Sandisw]

Good point. I think if there is any price adjustment it will be to lower the price to reflect the lack of benefits, and then pass a refund on to current APs (I'd hope)

They are supposed to be allowing current AP holders to cancel pass.

So, I doubt they are going to change it at all and lower price. I think they will simply hold sales until they can add things back.