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I think the number of people with FP’s reserved at a given park on a given day in July is going to exceed the capacity for that park. I don’t see how they can grant park reservations to everyone with FP for the day and still operate at limited capacity.
 
I think the number of people with FP’s reserved at a given park on a given day in July is going to exceed the capacity for that park. I don’t see how they can grant park reservations to everyone with FP for the day and still operate at limited capacity.
I doubt that's true - this is just based on observations of people booking them, of course, but FP availability seems to be way down for summer dates, which people assumed was because of reduced capacity.
 
I know things are very fluid, but the park hours page indicates that water parks will start opening starting July 11th.
No this was posted (probably 10+ pages back). No water parks right away. Still closed indefinitely. They just haven’t finished updating the website with the times.
 
It’s just annoying to see ppl come here to tell ppl they shouldn’t be upset when you have no dog in the fight.

Instead of policing the thread and declaring that people shouldn’t post because you don’t think their perspective is valid, you can always hit that ignore button. And that’s the last you’ll hear from me :)
 

I believe wet or dampened surgical masks should not be used as they can actually become a better reservoir for the virus.

That actually brings up my biggest concern with the masks. I'm more afraid of the masks being contaminated and giving me Covid than any other issue. I'm good about not putting my hands anywhere near my face. However, if the mask is laid down while eating on a surface (or especially by my kids) and then put over my mouth and nose, that's a big concern.
Yeah, I don't fully understand the science, but whenever I see ads for "cooling" or "moisture wicking" masks, I think, isn't that exactly what we're not supposed to have?
 
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but the CDC reversed their opinion on the virus transmitting on surfaces. I saw it on the news last night and was a bit upset. I’m back to wiping down my groceries. It was a positive development when it came out for the theme parks in regards to guests touching everything.

No they didn't, they just made wording more clear:

The primary and most important mode of transmission for COVID-19 is through close contact from person-to-person. Based on data from lab studies on COVID-19 and what we know about similar respiratory diseases, it may be possible that a person can get COVID-19 by touching a surface or object that has the virus on it and then touching their own mouth, nose, or possibly their eyes, but this isn’t thought to be the main way the virus spreads.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/how-covid-spreads.html
 
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Seriously?? I hadn’t heard. This is why so many don’t trust the info & has just decided to take their chances or take no chances. There is just so much they don’t know & the back & forth messaging makes ppl weary.
Part of this is because it is a New disease that has only been around for about 7 months. It takes time to properly test things so a lot of stuff is precautionary because warning people it is possible is better than letting them find out for themselves. Also, I believe the CDC only change the wording so it better represented that it is not the main way it is transmitted it is mostly through droplets, not surfaces.
 
I doubt that's true - this is just based on observations of people booking them, of course, but FP availability seems to be way down for summer dates, which people assumed was because of reduced capacity.

There has been zero FP availability at 30 days since the start of the shutdown. I assumed they just pulled a ton of availability until they know what they are doing. I can't possibly believe that many people were booking FPs for days the park wasn't even going to be open. At 30 days you can usually get just about everything. I made a FP for the teacups on July 11 because it was the best thing available...
 
No they didn't, they just made wording more clear:

The primary and most important mode of transmission for COVID-19 is through close contact from person-to-person. Based on data from lab studies on COVID-19 and what we know about similar respiratory diseases, it may be possible that a person can get COVID-19 by touching a surface or object that has the virus on it and then touching their own mouth, nose, or possibly their eyes, but this isn’t thought to be the main way the virus spreads.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/how-covid-spreads.html


Part of this is because it is a New disease that has only been around for about 7 months. It takes time to properly test things so a lot of stuff is precautionary because warning people it is possible is better than letting them find out for themselves. Also, I believe the CDC only change the wording so it better represented that it is not the main way it is transmitted it is mostly through droplets, not surfaces.

Yep! I posted above, just wording changed, not a reversal.
 
I believe wet or dampened surgical masks should not be used as they can actually become a better reservoir for the virus.

That actually brings up my biggest concern with the masks. I'm more afraid of the masks being contaminated and giving me Covid than any other issue. I'm good about not putting my hands anywhere near my face. However, if the mask is laid down while eating on a surface (or especially by my kids) and then put over my mouth and nose, that's a big concern.

We've got reservations for late July. I think what we're going to do is bring big ziplock bags for everyone and have each of us take the mask off with clean hands and immediately put it into our own bags every time we start to eat. Hopefully that will be a safe place to store it without contaminating it or vice versa contaminating a surface. I was hoping to use the neck gaiters that would be easier to just pull down but not take off while eating, but sounds like initially, those won't be allowed.

The Mrs. works at a place where they need to re-use their masks, and they put them in ziploc bags, then in a paper bag with their name on it (large pharma retailer). The ziploc piece would be the way to go, or if you're going the disposable route pack a few extras.
 
I don't understand why they won't let people cancel their trips right now. I would think that if they allowed people to do that they would have a much better sense of demand v. capacity, which will help them plan better for implimenting their new reservation system.
 
how many folks have new dates for their tickets extended through 9/2021? Mine still say 12/15/20
If mine were to change to the new date of 9/2021 I would be elated!!
 
I don't understand why they won't let people cancel their trips right now. I would think that if they allowed people to do that they would have a much better sense of demand v. capacity, which will help them plan better for implimenting their new reservation system.
Data at rest is much easier to convert and transfer between systems than changing data. Just like changing clothes stopped vs. 55 mph on a Motorcycle for example. **DISCLAIMER PLEASE DON'T TRY THIS*
 
I think the major issue for WDW is enforcement of compliance. When we are out in a pretty open area (like hiking in the forest) we are not wearing masks, but have them on hand to put on when we start to approach others.

Thing is, I don’t think that will happen in the parks. It’s either no mask free for all or masks all the time. I just don’t think people would be able to grasp the concept of masks indoors and no masks outdoors. Since we are continuously changing our location when you go in and out of attractions. I think that is why there is a blanket mask statement. I can just imagine all the people forgetting as they walk into the line for Thunder Mountain. Or even, is that considered indoors or outdoors? The queue line is kind of a mixture of both, right? When would the mask be needed in that scenario? It’s just so messy and confusing, which leads me to believe it will be one or the other. And for now, it’s masks everywhere.

yeah, and that is exactly why I think they are starting with masks 100% of the time

I think what could work is if you go into a show building or a restaurant or something then you put a mask on but otherwise you wouldn't .... so in your example, BTMRR queue wouldn't need it but when you are like in the pre-show room for Philharmagic you would put it on as you are fully indoors then

but will have to see how things develop
 
I bought these. Very cool and light. I don’t know about dampened ones. Order came very fast.
Those are the ones I was considering! They're actually very cute. I'm glad to hear they're light and cool. I'm going to see if DD wants some as well and then place my order.

Sorry, I probably shouldn't have included the question about damp face coverings in my questions to you; I meant that more as a general question to anyone who might know. It sounds like it's not a good idea anywhay.
 
A question to the folks who know a lot more than I on the subject, but are DVC resorts going to have full restaurant availability from June 22nd to July 11th? I'll assume that all food spots will be open after that date.
 
yeah, and that is exactly why I think they are starting with masks 100% of the time

I think what could work is if you go into a show building or a restaurant or something then you put a mask on but otherwise you wouldn't .... so in your example, BTMRR queue wouldn't need it but when you are like in the pre-show room for Philharmagic you would put it on as you are fully indoors then

but will have to see how things develop
But there will be a CM at the entrance to every attraction so they can remind ppl and/or there can be signage that says “masks required to enter this building/queue line“.
 
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