Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[Tandy]

I dare say Disney will still take money off people for bookings between now and then knowing fully well that they can't open. Seems to be the way at the moment.

Sure they will. Why not have the money work for them sitting in their bank

 

[Eric Smith]

Not good news if you are Disney... I know this board lots of people are willing to go, but we might not be representative of most of America...

https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/pol...ive-events-before-coronavirus-vaccine-reuters
"Enthusiasm for amusement and theme parks was even bleaker. Fifty-nine percent of respondents said they should not reopen until a vaccine is available. Only 20% said they would visit a theme park when they reopen."

I expect those numbers will improve as things drag on... but you are starting from a very, very low base. I personally have no interest in returning to Disney, going to a movie, or sitting in a sports stadium. I suspect it will be 18 months or some medical advances before I'd want to be in a large unknown crowd.

Disney will release discounts after they open and suddenly more people will be willing to go to a theme park. It's going to be like flying after 9/11 as Pete said a few podcasts ago.

 

[mshanson3121]

I don't know where you saw that, but the French PM just said they are still proceeding ahead with the plan to start easing restrictions on May 11.

https://www.france24.com/en/2020042...veils-france-s-plan-to-ease-covid-19-lockdown

Easing restrictions and allowing large gatherings aren't the same thing. Our province is easing restrictions, but large gatherings have been cancelled for the rest of the year.

 

[wallawallakids]

And it’s not just about people being worried about the virus that are going to be avoiding the theme parks, it’s also going to be the sheer number of people who just can’t afford it now. I know they have been saying once we open up, unemployment will be fine but I highly doubt all of those jobs will be back. This will be affecting people and employment for at least a year IMO. How can anyone justify a vacation when they have to worry about paying their mortgage?

Eta: Also it’s not just people who have lost jobs who are worried. The stock market and consumer confidence has been hit hard. Lots of people who were close to retirement are now looking at working longer. Those people aren’t going to choose a vacation right now either. People have been really affected by this, even those who haven’t lost their jobs.

 

[Brianstl]

Disney will release discounts after they open and suddenly more people will be willing to go to a theme park. It's going to be like flying after 9/11 as Pete said a few podcasts ago.

I don't know about that. I don't think fear is going to keep people away that long. Fear tends to fade quickly, but I think the economic impact of this will last a while.

 

[rteetz]

Reminder this is not the place to discuss treatments or vaccines. Those discussions can take place on the community board.

 

[jerry557]

Not good news if you are Disney... I know this board lots of people are willing to go, but we might not be representative of most of America...

https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/pol...ive-events-before-coronavirus-vaccine-reuters
"Enthusiasm for amusement and theme parks was even bleaker. Fifty-nine percent of respondents said they should not reopen until a vaccine is available. Only 20% said they would visit a theme park when they reopen."

I expect those numbers will improve as things drag on... but you are starting from a very, very low base. I personally have no interest in returning to Disney, going to a movie, or sitting in a sports stadium. I suspect it will be 18 months or some medical advances before I'd want to be in a large unknown crowd.

Not sure how much I believe that poll.

The demand for fast passes still seems high in June. DVC reservations are still largely booked up in June and July. NFL teams are still selling season tickets.

You can't wait for a vaccine either. That may never come.

 

[Ponderer]

I say it's fake news. I don't know any young people that feel this way. As soon as Disney opens its parks and stadiums open people will show up. Just look at the beaches.

A younger Broadway performer, Nick Cordero, just had his leg amputated because of widespread clotting, which is apparently becoming more and more of a symptom.

It's NOT just about mortality. Young people are surviving this, but they're not coming away unscarred. They're being left with lifelong lung damage, the aftereffects of massive organ failure including permanent kidney failure, etc. The focus on deaths here did a real disservice to the public because this virus is savage. I have a formerly healthy friend in Paris in her late 20s left with heart damage from this.

And yes, they'll show up if places are open. The parks will, without a doubt. That's inevitable. And I think there will likely be an enormous cost to that.

 

[DynamicDisneyDuo]

I know they have been saying once we open up, unemployment will be fine but I highly doubt all of those jobs will be back.

This is true as I'm sure many small businesses will go under due to the extended closures. Larger businesses may trim operations/payroll to make back money lost during the extended closures.

 

[dina444444]

Not sure how much I believe that poll.

The demand for fast passes still seems high in June. DVC reservations are still largely booked up in June and July. NFL teams are still selling season tickets.

You can't wait for a vaccine either. That may never come.

There is definitely a reduction in FP availability for June.

 

[rteetz]

Theme park guidelines beginning to come out

https://twitter.com/x/status/1255154004549492736

 

[SaintsManiac]

Theme park guidelines beginning to come out

https://twitter.com/x/status/1255154004549492736

Just a highlight I think that's worth pointing out here:

Mayor Demmings shared that he thinks an opening day in June is more realistic than May in order to give time to resolve supply chain issues.

 

[mshanson3121]

A younger Broadway performer, Nick Cordero, just had his leg amputated because of widespread clotting, which is apparently becoming more and more of a symptom.

It's NOT just about mortality. Young people are surviving this, but they're not coming away unscarred. They're being left with lifelong lung damage, the aftereffects of massive organ failure including permanent kidney failure, etc. The focus on deaths here did a real disservice to the public because this virus is savage. I have a formerly healthy friend in Paris in her late 20s left with heart damage from this.

And yes, they'll show up if places are open. The parks will, without a doubt. That's inevitable. And I think there will likely be an enormous cost to that.

This. A woman in her 40s not too far from us spent 2 weeks on the vent, and is now in therapy trying to relearn how to walk.

 

[BadPinkTink]

thanks @rteetz
https://www.laughingplace.com/w/new...florida-economic-recovery-task-force-meeting/
What’s happening:

• The Orange County Florida Economic Recovery Task Force met today to once again explore a plan to reopen Orlando’s economy.
• They began to devise guidelines and mandates for various industries which will continue to be revised throughout the week.
• The first preliminary draft version included hotels, restaurants, small theme parks, and large theme parks.
• While the criteria for small and large parks are the same, it is expected that there will be differences as more task force members contribute.
• Mayor Demmings shared that he thinks an opening day in June is more realistic than May in order to give time to resolve supply chain issues.

Guidelines and Mandates Discussed by Orange County Florida Economic Recovery Task Force (as of 4/28/20)
Large Theme Parks (Disney, Universal):

• Guidelines:
  • Tape marking of 6 feet apart in ride/attraction queues
  • Staff to regularly wipe down surfaces at random
  • Phase 1 & 2: Staff who are 65+ are encouraged to stay home
• Mandates:
  • All employees required to wear facemasks
  • Touchless hand sanitizer at each ticketing entry and turnstiles
  • Touchless hand sanitizer at each ride/attraction entry and exit
  • Temperature checks for staff prior to shift (temp above 100.4 must not enter premises)
  • Wipe down of all railing and surfaces regularly
  • Phase 1: 50% capacity
  • Phase 2: 75% capacity

Small Theme Parks (Funspot, Gatorland):

• Guidelines:
  • Tape marking of 6 feet apart in ride/attraction queues
  • Staff to regularly wipe down surfaces at random
  • Phase 1 & 2: Staff who are 65+ are encouraged to stay home
• Mandates:
  • All employees required to wear facemasks
  • Touchless hand sanitizer at each ticketing entry and turnstiles
  • Touchless hand sanitizer at each ride/attraction entry and exit
  • Temperature checks for staff prior to shift (temp above 100.4 must not enter premises)
  • Wipe down of all railing and surfaces regularly
  • Phase 1: 50% capacity
  • Phase 2: 75% capacity

Hotels

• Guidelines:
  • Phase 1: Housekeeping services to be limited and allow for minimal guest and employee exposure
  • Phase 1: Promote, if available, mobile check-in
  • Phase 1: Housekeeping services only clean upon request, or when guests depart
  • Phase 1: Allow employees to work from home if not playing a critical role in serving guests
  • Phase 1: Only deliver room service to guest’s door
  • Phase 1: Provide self-parking
  • Promote social distancing for all guests and staff
  • Recommended touchless sanitizer at entry
  • Increase cleaning services/additional sanitation services through cleaning companies
  • Phase 1 & 2: Staff who are 65+ are encourage to stay home
• Mandates:
  • All employees required to wear facemasks
  • Hand sanitizer at entry to be in plain visible sight
  • Temperature checks for staff prior to shift (temp above 100.4 must not enter premises)
  • All employees with flu-like symptoms advised to stay home
  • Front desk to sanitize themselves on a regular basis
  • Consistent cleaning of all guest areas
  • Front desk to utilize sneeze-guards
  • Remove all service items in guest rooms to include glassware, coffee cups etc.
  • Mini bars not to be stocked
  • Do no offer self food services
  • Space pool furniture according to distancing guidelines
  • Pool gates and pool chairs to be sanitized regularly
  • Door handles, elevator button and railing to be sanitized regularly
  • Remove all coffee makers from guest rooms
  • Remove all guest collateral items, except for those that are single use
  • Sanitize guest keys before and after each use
  • Sanitize bell carts after each year
  • Phase 1 & 2: No conferences

Restaurants:

• Guidelines:
  • Paper/disposable menus
  • Encourage takeout/online orders
  • Touchless sanitizer at entry
  • Phase 1 & 2: Staff who are 65+ are encouraged to stay home
• Mandates:
  • Hand sanitizer at every table
  • Hand sanitizer at entry to be in plain visible sight
  • All employees required to wear facemasks
  • Temperature checks for staff prior to shift (temp above 100.4 must not enter premises)
  • All employees with flu-like symptoms advised to stay home
  • Doors to be wiped regularly
  • All staff behind counters must wear gloves (except for bartenders)
  • Bartenders to sanitize hands after making each drink order
  • Seated tables to be six feet apart
  • Phase 1: Limit restaurant and bar capacity to 50%
  • Phase 2: Limit restaurant and bar capacity to 75%

 

[Tandy]

• Mandates:
  • Sanitize bell carts after each year

That will be a germy cart

 

[wallawallakids]

Theme park guidelines beginning to come out

https://twitter.com/x/status/1255154004549492736

Am I the only one who is going to loose my mind if they remove the coffee maker from my room?!?!

 

[jerry557]

Going by those guidelines... looks like face masks and temperature checks required for CMs, not guests.

 

[Searc]

thanks @rteetz
https://www.laughingplace.com/w/new...florida-economic-recovery-task-force-meeting/
What’s happening:

• The Orange County Florida Economic Recovery Task Force met today to once again explore a plan to reopen Orlando’s economy.
• They began to devise guidelines and mandates for various industries which will continue to be revised throughout the week.
• The first preliminary draft version included hotels, restaurants, small theme parks, and large theme parks.
• While the criteria for small and large parks are the same, it is expected that there will be differences as more task force members contribute.
• Mayor Demmings shared that he thinks an opening day in June is more realistic than May in order to give time to resolve supply chain issues.

Guidelines and Mandates Discussed by Orange County Florida Economic Recovery Task Force (as of 4/28/20)
Large Theme Parks (Disney, Universal):

• Guidelines:
  • Tape marking of 6 feet apart in ride/attraction queues
  • Staff to regularly wipe down surfaces at random
  • Phase 1 & 2: Staff who are 65+ are encouraged to stay home
• Mandates:
  • All employees required to wear facemasks
  • Touchless hand sanitizer at each ticketing entry and turnstiles
  • Touchless hand sanitizer at each ride/attraction entry and exit
  • Temperature checks for staff prior to shift (temp above 100.4 must not enter premises)
  • Wipe down of all railing and surfaces regularly
  • Phase 1: 50% capacity
  • Phase 2: 75% capacity

Small Theme Parks (Funspot, Gatorland):

• Guidelines:
  • Tape marking of 6 feet apart in ride/attraction queues
  • Staff to regularly wipe down surfaces at random
  • Phase 1 & 2: Staff who are 65+ are encouraged to stay home
• Mandates:
  • All employees required to wear facemasks
  • Touchless hand sanitizer at each ticketing entry and turnstiles
  • Touchless hand sanitizer at each ride/attraction entry and exit
  • Temperature checks for staff prior to shift (temp above 100.4 must not enter premises)
  • Wipe down of all railing and surfaces regularly
  • Phase 1: 50% capacity
  • Phase 2: 75% capacity

Hotels

• Guidelines:
  • Phase 1: Housekeeping services to be limited and allow for minimal guest and employee exposure
  • Phase 1: Promote, if available, mobile check-in
  • Phase 1: Housekeeping services only clean upon request, or when guests depart
  • Phase 1: Allow employees to work from home if not playing a critical role in serving guests
  • Phase 1: Only deliver room service to guest’s door
  • Phase 1: Provide self-parking
  • Promote social distancing for all guests and staff
  • Recommended touchless sanitizer at entry
  • Increase cleaning services/additional sanitation services through cleaning companies
  • Phase 1 & 2: Staff who are 65+ are encourage to stay home
• Mandates:
  • All employees required to wear facemasks
  • Hand sanitizer at entry to be in plain visible sight
  • Temperature checks for staff prior to shift (temp above 100.4 must not enter premises)
  • All employees with flu-like symptoms advised to stay home
  • Front desk to sanitize themselves on a regular basis
  • Consistent cleaning of all guest areas
  • Front desk to utilize sneeze-guards
  • Remove all service items in guest rooms to include glassware, coffee cups etc.
  • Mini bars not to be stocked
  • Do no offer self food services
  • Space pool furniture according to distancing guidelines
  • Pool gates and pool chairs to be sanitized regularly
  • Door handles, elevator button and railing to be sanitized regularly
  • Remove all coffee makers from guest rooms
  • Remove all guest collateral items, except for those that are single use
  • Sanitize guest keys before and after each use
  • Sanitize bell carts after each year
  • Phase 1 & 2: No conferences

Restaurants:

• Guidelines:
  • Paper/disposable menus
  • Encourage takeout/online orders
  • Touchless sanitizer at entry
  • Phase 1 & 2: Staff who are 65+ are encouraged to stay home
• Mandates:
  • Hand sanitizer at every table
  • Hand sanitizer at entry to be in plain visible sight
  • All employees required to wear facemasks
  • Temperature checks for staff prior to shift (temp above 100.4 must not enter premises)
  • All employees with flu-like symptoms advised to stay home
  • Doors to be wiped regularly
  • All staff behind counters must wear gloves (except for bartenders)
  • Bartenders to sanitize hands after making each drink order
  • Seated tables to be six feet apart
  • Phase 1: Limit restaurant and bar capacity to 50%
  • Phase 2: Limit restaurant and bar capacity to 75%

Thank you for the summary. I can't believe they didn't mention the biometrics scan at the entrance.

 

[merry_nbright]

I’m glad we’ve got some outlines, now just waiting for dates. I’m hoping it’s after my scheduled June trip. Ugh. I want it cancelled so badly and yet can’t do anything yet.

 

[Dallasmomoftwo]

All those guidelines sound reasonable to me.