Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[OnceUponATime15]

I haven’t heard of any reservations that start on the 17th being canceled. If there are I hope they list their info in my other thread. On that thread several who check in on the 16th were offered to have their dates modified & not canceled.

that is why for now I’m saying we are at the 17th for resort opening best case scenario. I would not be surprised if it gets delayed but that’s the info we have right now.

I admire your optimism
I just went into MDE to make dining reservations for May 17th onward - I did breakfast, lunch & dinner for every day (table for 2 and 4) starting on the 17th through May 31st. The message was the same on each try - Sorry there are no breakfast/lunch/dinner times available.. Not one restaurant, not a single meal, on any of the dates. But everything becomes available on June 1st. I understand not being able to make a new resort reservation (I tried - you can’t) but I’d think that dining reservations should be available for those already booked if the resorts are accepting guests. Not everyone makes their dining reservations at 180.. and some want to change once there.

 

[DavidHobart]

Part of that is the fact the virus and it's effects are a moving target. The model works with the data available and when that changes, it changes.

1. As you note, good models change when the data changes. Would someone rather they didn't?
2. Despite much attention to this model on this thread, the issue for Disney World/Florida (and everywhere else) is not when deaths/ICU use peak, which is what to date this model predicts. That's a variable that lags the actual epidemic by 2-4 weeks. The issue is either a. declining positive tests under a consistent testing regimen, or b. declining % positives under an increasing testing regimen. That's the indication that you can lessen the wide ranging restrictions--although 6 feet, and cloth masks when you can't be assured of 6 feet, to protect others, ain't going away for a while...

 

[gottalovepluto]

People are reporting getting cancellation emails for resort reservations later than the 17th of May. I think the 23rd that the latest I have seen. Mine was checkout on the 10th, my MK FP+ are still there for the 10th though.

My FPs stuck around for a week or two after my March trip was cancelled so if people are pinning hopes on that... yikes...

 

[Spridell]

1. Good models change when the data changes. Would you rather they didn't?
2. Despite much attention to this model on this thread, the issue for Disney World/Florida (and everywhere else) is not when deaths/ICU use peak, which is what to date this model predicts. That's a variable that lags the actual epidemic by 2-4 weeks. The issue is either a. declining positive tests under a consistent testing regimen, or b. declining % positives under an increasing testing regimen. That's the indication that you can lessen the wide ranging restrictions--although 6 feet, and cloth masks when you can't be assured of 6 feet, to protect others, ain't going away for a while...

This is exactly what the Gov of Florida said in his news conference tonight. They are mainly looking at Hospital capacity and declining % of positives rate with more testing being done. The 2 main factors going forward.

 

[TISHLOVESDISNEY]

I haven’t heard of any reservations that start on the 17th being canceled. If there are I hope they list their info in my other thread. On that thread several who check in on the 16th were offered to have their dates modified & not canceled.

that is why for now I’m saying we are at the 17th for resort opening best case scenario. I would not be surprised if it gets delayed but that’s the info we have right now.

Out of curiosity, is it all resorts getting canceled? I assume it will be, but I hadn't seen any Deluxe resorts listed.

 

[OnceUponATime15]

Out of curiosity, is it all resorts getting canceled? I assume it will be, but I hadn't seen any Deluxe resorts listed.

I’ve seen Campgrounds, POP, GDT, POR, AK - Kidani

 

[DynamicDisneyDuo]

1. Good models change when the data changes. Would you rather they didn't?

I'm not sure why you are asking me that because what you quoted in no way inferred it. Someone else was talking about the shifting projections for the model and I gave an explanation for why that might be happening. I made no comment whatsoever on whether I like it or not. All I said was that the model's projections change as that data does. That is a completely neutral statement.

For the record, I prefer predictions from any source update themselves as new data becomes available so they are as accurate as possible.

 

[Krandor]

Seems ridiculous. Why did they need a special name for their masks at all? Just concentrate on making guests safe rather than wasting time and money on naming things!

If disney does decide to reccomend masks, do you really think they wouldn't make their own line of masks to sell to people. Get your choice of vader, kylo, stormtrooper, iron man and captain america masks to buy and wear.

 

[Krandor]

1. Good models change when the data changes. Would you rather they didn't?

Also they are only as good as the data given to them. In my state we have low reported numbers on weekend that they "catch-up" on monday. It appears that monday "spike" that really isn't an actual spike on mondays has scewed the model some. So how good the input data is also has a lot to do with the results of the model.

 

[vinotinto]

I didn't listen to the phone call, but can we assume that basically nothing really substantial was said re: Disney?

Is it me, or is Disney being a lot more tight-lipped than Universal? Universal put out that survey gathering Passholder feedback on how comfortable they would be with modifications and they have participated in these calls and being more proactive in indicating what the modifications may be. We’ve heard nothing from Disney other than Iger saying masks may be required.

 

[DavidHobart]

I'm not sure why you are asking me that because what you quoted in no way inferred it. Someone else was talking about the shifting projections for the model and I gave an explanation for why that might be happening. I made no comment whatsoever on whether I like it or not. All I said was that the model's projections change as that data does. That is a completely neutral statement.

For the record, I prefer predictions from any source update themselves as new data becomes available so they are as accurate as possible.

Sorry, I was quoting you in SUPPORT of your point. Will edit!!!

 

[HuskieJohn]

I admire your optimism
I just went into MDE to make dining reservations for May 17th onward - I did breakfast, lunch & dinner for every day (table for 2 and 4) starting on the 17th through May 31st. The message was the same on each try - Sorry there are no breakfast/lunch/dinner times available.. Not one restaurant, not a single meal, on any of the dates. But everything becomes available on June 1st. I understand not being able to make a new resort reservation (I tried - you can’t) but I’d think that dining reservations should be available for those already booked if the resorts are accepting guests. Not everyone makes their dining reservations at 180.. and some want to change once there.

Right...WDW already announced you cant make new reservations. Nothing I said was about making new reservations. Honestly I am surprised at this point they are allowing people to make resort reservations for June.

 

[DavidHobart]

Also they are only as good as the data given to them. In my state we have low reported numbers on weekend that they "catch-up" on monday. It appears that monday "spike" that really isn't an actual spike on mondays has scewed the model some. So how good the input data is also has a lot to do with the results of the model.

This--and other more routine day to day fluctuations-- has been known for some time, so people of some analytic capability look at seven day or fourteen day moving averages.

 

[HuskieJohn]

I’ve seen Campgrounds, POP, GDT, POR, AK - Kidani

The AK Kidani was a DVC room that the owner canceled...not WDW. So that should be excluded.

 

[Spridell]

Is it me, or is Disney being a lot more tight-lipped than Universal? Universal put out that survey gathering Passholder feedback on how comfortable they would be with modifications and they have participated in these calls and being more proactive in indicating what the modifications may be. We’ve heard nothing from Disney other than Iger saying masks may be required.

I agree. I mean I would of thought 100% D'amaro would of been on the phone call this morning. Was surprised he was not.

I will be listening to them everyday this week to see if he is on any of them.

 

[Sarahslay]

The idea of conventions - with crowds traveling from all over, milling together, then traveling back, starting this soon is, quite frankly, horrific. I am exhausted from dealing with this virus at the hospital. I worked 86 hours last week. We are FINALLY seeing some light. And this is going to send us back into a second spike. If someone isn't from a hotspot, they have the luxury of not seeing how horrific it is. But there is absolutely no reason their location won't become a hotspot next if we are turning Disney into some COVID stew and everyone takes a spoonful.

I work in the healthcare industry, I know, trust me. I've also had the virus myself and know how horrible it is, I was not fortunate enough to be one of the lucky ones with no or minor symptoms. That being said, conventioneers are no different than anyone else coming to the parks. We don't know what Disney is planning, and I'm hopeful that our current precautionary measures work enough by mid summer to not cause a huge problem. Social distancing will not keep this contained 100%, we all just need to do the best we can, and that's about it. My friend is also not really interested in going to this convention (she wasn't anyway) so she will probably end up not going, and already wasn't going to go to the parks at all, I'm sure she won't be the only one who decides not to go in the current climate.

 

[karen4546]

I’ve seen Campgrounds, POP, GDT, POR, AK - Kidani

sorry idk what GDT is for sure is that Coronado Springs? And KIdani was canceled ? was that for an arrival after My 17? still grasping at those elusive paper straws for my May 23 reservation at Wilderness Lodge and then moving to Copper Creek May 24-29. fingers crossed.

I have noticed several All Star reservations being canceled. This makes me wonder if they are canceling them for a particular reason. Because, not everyone is staying there and more people post about that than any other resort that I have seen- Especially in the May 2020 thread. Hanging on to my reservation (Steven Tyler voice)

 

[OnceUponATime15]

@karen4546 Yes GDT is the new tower at Coronado Springs. The AK cancellation along with a few others were ones I saw on a disney fans FB page I belong to so I’m not sure if it’s the same one in the thread I linked to in another post.

 

[e_yerger]

sorry idk what GDT is for sure is that Coronado Springs? And KIdani was canceled ? was that for an arrival after My 17? still grasping at those elusive paper straws for my May 23 reservation at Wilderness Lodge and then moving to Copper Creek May 24-29. fingers crossed.

I have noticed several All Star reservations being canceled. This makes me wonder if they are canceling them for a particular reason. Because, not everyone is staying there and more people post about that than any other resort that I have seen- Especially in the May 2020 thread. Hanging on to my reservation (Steven Tyler voice)

I can’t imagine disney cancelling some resorts and not others. That seems very.... classist? to me. That they would keep deluxe (dvc aside) open and close values without trying to move the people in value resorts into another resort. If that’s really the case I would expect a PR nightmare.

Edit: grammar

 

[karen4546]

I can’t imagine disney cancelling some resorts and not others. That seems very.... classist? to me. That they would keep deluxe (dvc aside) open and close values without trying to move the people in value resorts into another resort. If that’s really the case I would expect a PR nightmare.

Edit: grammar

Nothing to do with "class" but maybe for some event or group?