Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[rteetz]

How long has the downtown Disney area been open now in Shanghai? Seems like three or four weeks. But admittedly time seems to be moving much slower now so I could be way off. Not saying World will progress like Shanghai but it’s the only comp we really have right now.

It’s been a couple weeks already but I don’t believe everything in Disney Town over there is open either. Just certain dining and shops and they are requiring a temperature check I believe.

 

[xuxa777]

It’s been a couple weeks already but I don’t believe everything in Disney Town over there is open either. Just certain dining and shops and they are requiring a temperature check I believe.

Disneytown, Wishing Star Park and Shanghai Disneyland Hotel in limited capacity about a month ago March 9th with temp checks full time mask for guests and digital QR codes showing you are safe

 

[Jmljasmine]

Because with park hopping they don't know the attendance numbers within a park until it's too late. Also, people aren't going to be okay with planning their whole day and booking FP+ months ahead based on park hopping, only to get to the gate and be told, "Sorry, we've reached our max for the day. Go somewhere else." Then going somewhere else and being told the same thing.

If you keep it to one park per day, Disney is going to have a lot more control over the numbers ahead of time, just based on FP+ bookings, hotel occupancy etc... And of course, less potential upset to customers.

How is park hopping any different from mid day breaks and returning to the same first park? My family has to take mid day breaks. Often we park hop because we like dining other places then MK (and with my kids ages, most mornings are MK). Many on property resort people, especially who choose the monorail resorts, would take mid day breaks.

 

[midnight star]

https://www.ocregister.com/2020/04/...iBv-nSj8pMQGEiNY3yL3eV6CyT0ZDXrSZ_J088Zh3q8XE
Posted this on the Avengers Campus superthread over on the DL board. But opening is being delayed

 

[JPM4]

How is park hopping any different from mid day breaks and returning to the same first park? My family has to take mid day breaks. Often we park hop because we like dining other places then MK (and with my kids ages, most mornings are MK). Many on property resort people, especially who choose the monorail resorts, would take mid day breaks.

Once you scan in you could come and go as you please. But once you scan into MK you can’t go to a different park you count as at MK

 

[mshanson3121]

How is park hopping any different from mid day breaks and returning to the same first park? My family has to take mid day breaks. Often we park hop because we like dining other places then MK (and with my kids ages, most mornings are MK). Many on property resort people, especially who choose the monorail resorts, would take mid day breaks.

Again, this is all speculation. But if they use FP+ to help track numbers, you book your FP+ for that park 2 months in advance. Disney now knows you're going to be there for that day. But even if you just get counted when you first enter the park in the morning, you're now counted in that daily limit. Whether you come or go back and forth at that park is irrelevant since Disney has no way of knowing if you leave (currently). So, you're now one person towards the total headcount they can allow for that park, that day.

So, if you were to park hop, they have no way of tracking you ahead of time for the second park until you pass through the gates. So, they wouldn't be able to know ahead of time what their numbers are going to be for that park, which matters if they're trying to allot say x-amount for onsite guests, x-amount for locals etc... Now, they can easily turn people away at the gate and say, "Sorry, capacity has been reached." But my point is, that's going to lead to a lot of complaints from guests.

It will be easier for their tracking purposes, and for guest planning purposes, to only allow one park per day.

 

[whiporee]

Let's just say I can speak from, ahem, experience , but I find rteetz to be quite a fair and lenient moderator in comparison to other boards. Sure, some of our posts can get off topic, but for the most part he keeps us in line without reprimand.

This is one of my favorite threads.

(edited to add) Laugh if you want! Bothers me none.

I agree, and I think rtweetz is doing a great job. Sincerely, honestly, no sarcasm. The mods are doing great.

And that's from someone who's had a half-dozen posts removed.

All of this stuff is so hard to navigate, with differing opinions of not just options, but data. Differing countries and differing parts of a country, too. And yet the tone is civil, the discourse often enlightening (and often frtustrating) and just an overall welcome way to pass some time.

So thanks. Very much.

 

[charmed59]

The projections from UW show Florida isn’t peaking until April 26th, and May 1st there would still be over 100 deaths a day in Florida. Even June 1st has a few deaths a day.

I do think one of the businesses they will open up early is construction, so the silver lining is Disney may be able to get some major construction done before they are allowed to let crowds in.

 

[JPM4]

Again, this is all speculation. But if they use FP+ to help track numbers, you book your FP+ for that park 2 months in advance. Disney now knows you're going to be there for that day. Whether you come or go back and forth at that park is irrelevant. You're counted in as one person towards the total headcount they can allow for that park, that day. They can know that they're going to have 25,000 on site guests at MK that day.

However, if you were to park hop, they have no way of tracking you ahead of time for the second (non-FP+ booking) park until you pass through the gates. So, they wouldn't be able to know ahead of time what their numbers are going to be for that park. Which really isn't such a big deal for them - they can easily turn people away at the gate and say, "Sorry, capacity has been reached." But my point is, that's going to lead to a lot of complaints from guests.

It will be easier for their tracking purposes, and for guest planning purposes, to only allow one park per day.

I do think they’ll keep park hopping because I truly think it’s going to start as on site only guests for the first month or so. They’ll know how many people are at the resort. If MK usually has 55K or so go thru the gates daily on average. But if there is only 55K staying on property total they could have people just come and go and it wouldn’t be a concern. My 2 big things are the confined space of the internal busses as well as the magical express. How do they deal with that? Even on the deadest of park days somehow when you’re waiting for a bus almost every bus is stacked in like sardines. That’s a huge concern

 

[xuxa777]

The magic bands track you throughout the parks not only when you scan in. Disney has a much more robust crowd level tracking than what is apparent to the guests. They have a plan to handle guests capacity for years and have used it many times. Trying to armchair engineering the park hopping here is a bit pointless but I guess anything is possible.

 

[xuxa777]

The projections from UW show Florida isn’t peaking until April 26th, and May 1st there would still be over 100 deaths a day in Florida. Even June 1st has a few deaths a day.

I do think one of the businesses they will open up early is construction, so the silver lining is Disney may be able to get some major construction done before they are allowed to let crowds in.

Wouldn't give that model much weight as it changes almost daily

 

[Runnsally]

Wouldn't give that model much weight as it changes almost daily

A dynamic model?...that’s kinda the point.

 

[mshanson3121]

I do think they’ll keep park hopping because I truly think it’s going to start as on site only guests for the first month or so. They’ll know how many people are at the resort. If MK usually has 55K or so go thru the gates daily on average. But if there is only 55K staying on property total they could have people just come and go and it wouldn’t be a concern. My 2 big things are the confined space of the internal busses as well as the magical express. How do they deal with that? Even on the deadest of park days somehow when you’re waiting for a bus almost every bus is stacked in like sardines. That’s a huge concern

They can't just have people come and go though - they are going to need to strictly cap attendance at each park. So they're going to need some way of making sure crowds remain spread out through the parks. They can't have 35,000 of the 55,000 all at MK.

For busses the only thing I can think of is they're going to run at half capacity, and they'll just have to run more of them, and they'll have to have the lines spaced out (stickers on the ground showing where to stand etc...). Some vinyl company is about to get one heckuva contract come through for Mickey head ground stickers

 

[mshanson3121]

The magic bands track you throughout the parks not only when you scan in. Disney has a much more robust crowd level tracking than what is apparent to the guests. They have a plan to handle guests capacity for years and have used it many times. Trying to armchair engineering the park hopping here is a bit pointless but I guess anything is possible.

Except not everyone uses Magic Bands... And yes, they track you on rides, shopping etc... But it doesn't track you when you leave the park, other than of course if you scan into another location.

 

[xuxa777]

Except not everyone uses Magic Bands... And yes, they track you on rides, shopping etc... But it doesn't track you when you leave the park, other than of course if you scan into another location.

The bands are tracked without you having to scan in , there are many sensors in and around disney that pick up movement.

 

[JPM4]

They can't just have people come and go though - they are going to need to strictly cap attendance at each park. So they're going to need some way of making sure crowds remain spread out through the parks. They can't have 35,000 of the 55,000 all at MK.

For busses the only thing I can think of is they're going to run at half capacity, and they'll just have to run more of them, and they'll have to have the lines spaced out (stickers on the ground showing where to stand etc...). Some vinyl company is about to get one heckuva contract come through for Mickey head ground stickers

That’s very true because that would happen you would have 35000 cramming into HEA which they’ll will try very hard to prevent. This is also why I feel all 4 parks will open at the same time. Spread everyone out as much as possible.

 

[Spridell]

The projections from UW show Florida isn’t peaking until April 26th, and May 1st there would still be over 100 deaths a day in Florida. Even June 1st has a few deaths a day.

I do think one of the businesses they will open up early is construction, so the silver lining is Disney may be able to get some major construction done before they are allowed to let crowds in.

Construction is open right now and allowed here in Florida. It was designated as an essential business.

Disney chose themselves on their own to stop all work.

 

[Dave006]

The bands are tracked without you having to scan in , there are many sensors in and around disney that pick up movement.

Not quite as many as you might think or in the way you think they are tracked.

Oh and by the way only MBs with an active battery can even be detected by the long range receivers. Many guests chose to use their favorite MBs even after the battery in their MB has given it's last broadcast to the Mouse.

Dave

 

[Dave006]

Construction is open right now and allowed here in Florida. It was designated as an essential business.

Disney chose themselves on their own to stop all work.

What you might not be considering is that Disney may have stopped all construction work to save cash since their major revenue stream stopped suddenly with an unknown restart date.

Disney is evaluating all construction projects and we don't expect all of them to be restarted any time soon.

Dave

 

[Spridell]

What you might not be considering is that Disney may have stopped all construction work to save cash since their major revenue stream stopped suddenly with an unknown restart date.

Disney is evaluating all construction projects and we don't expect all of them to be restarted any time soon.

Dave

Yes I am aware of that.

The poster said that maybe construction business will open first, I was just saying here in Florida construction businesses never stopped.