Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[focusondisney]

This is just a theory but... I’m suspecting the snippet they heard was the exact quote you heard live

Yes, that is probably the case. I don’t think the report said when he made that statement. And it was before 8 this morning I heard the report, so I know it wasn’t a statement form today.

And I did use the term ban. So I understand your point it is a restriction with a requirement for a 14 day quarantine. But let’s face it.... this will effectively “ban” most people from those states from vacationing in Florida in any normal sense of the word. No one is going to pay to vacation somewhere & spend the whole time in their hotel room. So while it’s technically not a ban, it acts like one.

 

[fatmanatee]

Question: People who are concerned about the NY/NJ travel ban.

If you live in the area, and the ban was lifted today, would you get on a plane and fly down to Florida tomorrow?

As a New Jerseyian, my answer to that is No. In a month, I may be swayed to say Yes.

I think we're getting a little too caught up in this travel ban considering it could be lifted at any time in the future.

No. If I feel more confident about test and trace I might change my mind though.

 

[Mit88]

If you thought masks wearing was going to be hard to enforce, wait until these tourist attractions open up and hotspot “quarantiners” come down from the tri state area or LA. Disney would have to hire CMs to stand outside those people’s rooms to make sure they don’t leave their room. And if they do leave their room, then there’s no point in enforcing it. It’s a lot easier to notice someone misusing the mask policy. It’s a lot harder to look at someone and know they’re on vacation and came from a state that they’re supposed to be quarantining. The reason you don’t hear about people disobeying that rule is because the tourist spots aren’t open. Most people down there that came from those states own homes down there

 

[SaintsManiac]

If you thought masks wearing was going to be hard to enforce, wait until these tourist attractions open up and hotspot “quarantiners” come down from the tri state area or LA. Disney would have to hire CMs to stand outside those people’s rooms to make sure they don’t leave their room. And if they do leave their room, then there’s no point in enforcing it. It’s a lot easier to notice someone misusing the mask policy. It’s a lot harder to look at someone and know they’re on vacation and came from a state that they’re supposed to be quarantining. The reason you don’t hear about people disobeying that rule is because the tourist spots aren’t open. Most people down there that came from those states own homes down there

And this is why I doubt they even open with these travel restrictions in place. CMs have enough to do without policing people from other states.

 

[xuxa777]

If you thought masks wearing was going to be hard to enforce, wait until these tourist attractions open up and hotspot “quarantiners” come down from the tri state area or LA. Disney would have to hire CMs to stand outside those people’s rooms to make sure they don’t leave their room. And if they do leave their room, then there’s no point in enforcing it. It’s a lot easier to notice someone misusing the mask policy. It’s a lot harder to look at someone and know they’re on vacation and came from a state that they’re supposed to be quarantining. The reason you don’t hear about people disobeying that rule is because the tourist spots aren’t open. Most people down there that came from those states own homes down there

Hawaii is arresting people and putting them in jail that break quarantine, they are watching their social media and getting reports from hotels etc and following them.

 

[ScubaCat]

I own a time share in Florida that I pay fees for. I don’t have the luxury of having endless money to be able to stay for 14 days using points just to quarantine the entire trip.

Despite seeming to constantly fight in the public sphere (via TV news, etc.) I'm sure politicians - governors especially - do coordinate a lot of decisions. Especially because there is usually mutual interest. I'd expect that quarantine to be lifted "due to declining numbers" or some other statistical-sounding reason sometime before the theme parks begin to open.

 

[SaintsManiac]

https://blogmickey.com/2020/05/dini...ry-to-disney-springs-during-phased-reopening/

 

[xuxa777]

I hope you’re right. NY numbers are going down steadily while other areas are going up. It is beginning to feel very punishing & probably political. I am hoping he is getting pushback from businesses, including airlines, Disney & Universal.

Not true, other areas are going down as well , Florida and Georgia included

 

[Jroceagles]

If you thought masks wearing was going to be hard to enforce, wait until these tourist attractions open up and hotspot “quarantiners” come down from the tri state area or LA. Disney would have to hire CMs to stand outside those people’s rooms to make sure they don’t leave their room. And if they do leave their room, then there’s no point in enforcing it. It’s a lot easier to notice someone misusing the mask policy. It’s a lot harder to look at someone and know they’re on vacation and came from a state that they’re supposed to be quarantining. The reason you don’t hear about people disobeying that rule is because the tourist spots aren’t open. Most people down there that came from those states own homes down there

one would assume that 14 day quarantine would be lifted as FL moves into Phase 2.

 

[Mit88]

And this is why I doubt they even open with these travel restrictions in place. CMs have enough to do without policing people from other states.

Exactly. They have enough to worry about than to babysit adults and make sure they’re not leaving their room for 14 days. It’s much easier to expect people that have homes down there to hope they’re following the rules, but even with them there’s no way of knowing for sure.

 

[gottalovepluto]

one would assume that 14 day quarantine would be lifted as FL moves into Phase 2.

I think most of us are thinking like that. The governor specifically calling out NY in the press conference did give me pause but I’m still in this group.

I also understand those who are concerned it might not be lifted, some people can’t adjust travel plans or can’t risk getting caught breaking quarantine so they need to decide their backup plans just in case.

 

[Jroceagles]

I think most of us are thinking like that. The governor specifically calling out NY in the press conference did give me pause but I’m still in this group.

I also understand those who are concerned it might not be lifted, some people can’t adjust travel plans or can’t risk getting caught breaking quarantine so they need to decide their backup plans just in case.

plus...I believe I read that they only check the flights that are coming from those hot spots...so you live in NY or NJ and fly out of Pennsylvania you are not checked?

 

[Moliphino]

We're in the same boat but not traveling until September. Gotta love Bradley by the way.

So much easier and cheaper than Logan, that's for sure! For us Logan is twice as far and the parking is at least twice as expensive.

 

[gottalovepluto]

plus...I believe I read that they only check the flights that are coming from those hot spots...so you live in NY or NJ and fly out of Pennsylvania you are not checked?

You are not. But you are supposed to quarantine anyway and are subject to fine/jail if you don’t (which they don’t seem to enforce). Also if you are unlucky enough to transfer in NY/NJ/CT/LA you are subject to quarantine.

Mess of a system that hopefully goes away after the end of the month!

 

[michellej47]

My only driving tip is avoid I-4 unless completely necessary. I take longer routes to avoid it.

This is why, even though it's technically only a 6 hour drive for us, we fly whenver possible because driving is just horrendous. And we have to get on I95 before I4 which is the scariest stretch of road in the world for me!

 

[andyman8]

plus...I believe I read that they only check the flights that are coming from those hot spots...so you live in NY or NJ and fly out of Pennsylvania you are not checked?

This is correct. It is also the case if you connect through another airport (so flying LGA to ATL to MCO for example), you are not checked and asked to sign any documentation. Those connecting flights are also more common right now, given how many airlines have reduced nonstop services between the Tri-State area and Florida. Technically, you are still supposed to quarantine though.

ETA: There are also some hotels that are refusing check-ins from the Tri State area; I assume because they don't want to deal with having to enforce a 14-day quarantine. Also want to be clear that I'm not advocating or encouraging anyone skirt these rules. These are the rules set forth by the Governor and, regardless of enforcement, they should be followed.

 

[xuxa777]

With the numbers from the New York area dropping way down in the past few days in another 2-3 weeks it will be very low, the required 14 day deal will be lifted or be incredibly ridiculous to still have in place. Louisiana should be lifted now as their case rate is lower than many other states that are allowed. There realistically is no worries with this being any type of issue when the parks open.

 

[Mit88]

This is correct. It is also the case if you connect through another airport (so flying LGA to ATL to MCO for example), you are not checked and asked to sign any documentation. Those connecting flights are also more common right now, given how many airlines have reduced nonstop services between the Tri-State area and Florida. Technically, you are still supposed to quarantine though.

ETA: There are also some hotels that are refusing check-ins from the Tri State area; I assume because they don't want to deal with having to enforce a 14-day quarantine. Also want to be clear that I'm not advocating or encouraging anyone skirt these rules. These are the rules set forth by the Governor and, regardless of enforcement, they should be followed.

But the guest could easily say they’ve been quarantining at a family members house in a non affected state for 2 weeks before traveling to the destination.

The point is, it’s almost impossible to enforce when theme parks reopen and there are tens of thousands of people traveling to Florida from all over the country and there’s no way to know for sure if they’ve been quarantining in a different state than they reside. So when the theme park opens, they’re not going to keep this mandate. It’s too much of a headache.

 

[Searc]

https://blogmickey.com/2020/05/dini...ry-to-disney-springs-during-phased-reopening/

That's no different than when parks are at capacity around the Holidays. At least you won't be charged the no-show fee if you can't get in to DS.

 

[SaintsManiac]

That's no different than when parks are at capacity around the Holidays. At least you won't be charged the no-show fee if you can't get in to DS.

Right, but I think people need to be prepared for their 180 day ADRs not getting them into the parks.