Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[KBoopaloo]

I think it's tomorrow if they do come out.

Of course! Today is not Sunday. I can no longer remember what day it is.

 

[ENJDisneyFan]

And that discussion should be kept to the rumors thread. This thread is more for what is actually happening.

Remembering which thread I’m on is like trying to remember which day of the week it is.
Sorry @rteetz i know you have a thankless job.

 

[1GoldenSun]

Rough morning around here... I find myself missing The Great Mask Debate...


We could bring back the buffet discussion. Anyone have any advice for how to choose the least sneezed-upon Zebra Dome?

 

[stayathomehero]

Rough morning around here... I find myself missing The Great Mask Debate...


We could bring back the buffet discussion. Anyone have any advice for how to choose the least sneezed-upon Zebra Dome?

Second dome to the right and straight on til morning.

On topic: who else is planning on stalking YouTube for Shanghai opening day videos?

 

[1GoldenSun]

Rough morning around here... I find myself missing The Great Mask Debate...


We could bring back the buffet discussion. Anyone have any advice for how to choose the least sneezed-upon Zebra Dome?

Weird... in the top part I was quoting @gottalovepluto but that got cut off.

 

[Brianstl]

I think so too.

Way easier to just stick one party per vehicle than it is to worry about spacing people far enough apart on buses, boats, or monorails (and people listening). I doubt they’ll be sanitizing any transportation method between guests so that isn’t a downside of the skyliner IMO. Treat it like a ride vehicle and have people sanitize after.

If they are sanitizing an outdoor ride that someone is on for less than three minutes after each ride, the will be sanitizing transit (which people are on longer) after each trip.

 

[elleherself]

I realize I'm biased in this, but I am hoping Disney and Universal extend all annual passes out an extra year. I think the closures are going to be longer than most people here think though. I think with every passholder impacted, and the season of the year when we prefer to visit impacted, I think it would be a gesture of goodwill and positive press, and will help with passholder retention.

It may be a pipe dream, but that's what I would like! Universal already gave me 6 months free on my last pass, and renewals add three months. I always stay onsite and buy plenty of meals and merchandise, I'm hoping the economics work out for them to offer this. Of course I understand that the parks division is hemorrhaging money as it is and this might not be feasible, financially. My mother in her 60s also has an annual pass right now, and unless they extend it appreciably, we won't be able to come back even if they open in fall. It's just not worth the risk.

 

[Brianstl]

We have rented many times and would do it again in a heartbeat. Key thing is to get trip insurance. You can still save a ton of money after paying for the insurance. Davids has links to all the insurance companies that insure trips right on his sight.

Trip insurance isn’t valid if the resort is closed for a pandemic.

 

[Brianstl]

Let's face it...In this situation, nobody wins. The renters don't, the owners don't....Disney doesn't. NOBODY could have planned for this.

The thing is that the renters accepted terms, rental contracts etc. I'm an owner and have been a renter and with renting, you get a really good deal compared to cash prices. With that deal comes restrictions that you don't have with a cash reservation. That's because the owner probably has restricted cancellation policies and they may not actually ever become whole if there's an event like this or hurricane, etc.

So it's not about places like these surviving. I hope they do and they will because people want a bargain. It's more about people actually reading the terms they're agreeing to before booking. 99% of the time, per the rental agreements in place "it's not my fault" legally just doesn't fly.

The contracts state renter is renting points that represent accommodations and it states the owner must be able to make those accommodations available. The owner can’t make those accommodations available. If can’t make those accommodations available the contract states the owner must return the money and David’s must make similar accommodations available for the same dates or refund the renters money. None of that is happening because David’s doesn’t want to return their share to the renters and they don’t want to upset owners who rent points through them. What is happening is a clear breach of contract.

David’s is going to get sued and lose. Whoever gets control of David’s assets in bankruptcy will sue owners who legally owe David’s money and win. So everyone is going to end up losing and the point rental market is going to be destroyed because no one with a brain will ever rent points again.

 

[andyman8]

Also, not sure if this has been posted here already, but I've heard a DCL rumor through the grapevine. Supposedly, even though the early summer European sailings on the Magic have been called, the Magic will still be heading to Europe soon but not for that reason. The ship is trying to bring back Crew Members who live over there. The same is supposedly true with the Fantasy dropping Crew Members off in the Caribbean. I've also heard that DCL is not renewing contracts or onboarding new Crew right now, so that really doesn't bode well for the rumored late summer restart (I know Carnival says it will start sailing in early August).

Just an update on this. I can confirm the Magic is indeed en route to Ponta Delgado, Portugal. Still awaiting confirmation on the Fantasy.

 

[Halloweenqueen]

Trip insurance isn’t valid if the resort is closed for a pandemic.

Most insurance doesn’t cover a pandemic. I haven’t heard of one, unless it is “cancel for any reason”. And no company is offering that at the moment.

 

[anthony2k7]

Waiting on someone to give us today's schedule updates!! So today's schedules are for 17th to 23rd I think?

At the very least it should give us a clue if any disney owned DS locations are preparing to reopen.

 

[gottalovepluto]

We could bring back the buffet discussion. Anyone have any advice for how to choose the least sneezed-upon Zebra Dome?

The science based method is Eeny Meeny Miny Moe.

 

[WonderlandisReality]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/1151...ights-cancelled-wedding-disney-world-florida/
This article has me a bit worried. WDW cancels an August wedding?
I guess I had better put some thought into our backup to the backup November trip as ADRs open tomorrow. Really thought our August trip (rescheduled from last month) would be pretty safe.

 

[gottalovepluto]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/1151...ights-cancelled-wedding-disney-world-florida/
This article has me a bit worried. WDW cancels an August wedding?
I guess I had better put some thought into our backup to the backup November trip as ADRs open tomorrow. Really thought our August trip (rescheduled from last month) would be pretty safe.

As of Tuesday Disney hadn’t even cancelled June weddings so there is a lot more that tale... https://www.disboards.com/threads/june-weddings-still-happening.3800928/

(Also, eye roll at the article. It should read: Couple Freaks Because British Airways Refuses to Release Group Rates Early for Them)

ETA: you should still take your Nov ADRs seriously, who knows what August holds?

 

[BadPinkTink]

Just for all the American Disser, after seeing the the sun in the link I didn't even click on the story, The Sun is one of the more notorious British Tabloid, also known as a Red Top. Think National Enquirer type media.

Its click bait in its natural habitat, and of course there is waaay more to the story, thats the whole point of the way they write and report things. I honestly would take it with a grain of salt and not worry too much. The people would have sold their story , knowing it would be written in the most scandalous way and that things would be elaborated. Its the people way of having their 60 seconds of fame

 

[courtney1188]

Waiting on someone to give us today's schedule updates!! So today's schedules are for 17th to 23rd I think?

At the very least it should give us a clue if any disney owned DS locations are preparing to reopen.

Yep, I don’t know what time schedules come out, so I’m just regularly refreshing this thread!

 

[yulilin3]

No CM schedules yet. They usually release every Sunday by the time I get up, it's posted. This also happened at the beginning weeks of closures, then the schedule eventually came out I believe it was Tuesday or Wednesday.

 

[AndreaDM]

I think I’m ready to scrap Disney all together for this year. We were booked on a cruise in June with a few days at a Disney resort beforehand. Cruise got cancelled so, ok we’ll just make it a Disney vacation. That isn’t looking likely now, but we still have flights to Orlando June 10. Yes I know we can change flights, but who knows what the rest of the year will look like, so I’m leaning toward just getting a Windsor Hills rental for the week and enjoying the pools and a beach day. Maybe a meal at Disney Springs if things seem semi-normal by then. Not the vacation we had planned, but still a nice break, we had snow here in Ohio yesterday!

One of the little guys is a space freak so would try to fit in Kennedy Space Center if it reopens in time.

Sorry, I kind of went off topic but I do have a June reservation that will probably be canceled and I don’t want the anxiety of moving the trip just to have it canceled again. I’ve watched some of you go through that 2-3 times, and I think a nice pool house may be the answer for us this summer.

 

[skeeter31]

Just an update on this. I can confirm the Magic is indeed en route to Ponta Delgado, Portugal. Still awaiting confirmation on the Fantasy.

Fantasy and Dream are still floating off the coast of Cocoa Beach. There are some pretty cool cruise ship tracker websites where you can see the locations of all the current ships. Royal Caribbean, Carnival, and Celebrity are all clustered together in a very small area in the Bahamas to stay out of shipping lanes. There aren’t enough ports in the Caribbean for all the cruise ships to be docked simultaneously, so these ships are having to free float with a skeleton crew.