Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[cakebaker]

I`m afraid I don`t know how to replay separately so I just write down my answers within the quote




Yes, but in Europe we are and kids are not wearing mask.

I don`t see the point to argue just wanted to share my thoughts. Clearly I don`t know how to answer properly anyways Have a lovely Sunday everyone!

You actually answer quite clearly, no problems at all! Much better than I would ever be able to do in whatever your language is. There is absolutely no need to argue, exchanging thoughts and different opinions is always good.

 

[KBoopaloo]

I keep seeing allusions to "fear." Why should Disney put measures in place? If you are "afraid" to catch this virus, you should not go.

It's not as simple as that. My family is not concerned at all about catching the virus. My DH is a healthcare worker and has seen multiple patients with COVID that were not yet diagnosed with COVID when he saw them, but were diagnosed once they were admitted. We have all been just fine. We are under 65, we are not in any of the high risk groups, we live 1500+ miles away from family members that are high risk, and we lead a healthy lifestyle.

But, I completely believe that measures have to be put into place because I would not want anyone visiting WDW to become an asymptomatic carrier and bring the virus back to the most vulnerable people in their community. And this is not something Disney is going to compromise. And they are not going to wait until the "virus goes away," or until there's "a vaccine," or "treatments" because that is not a solution that will allow them to open this year.

They are going to put measures in place, but guests will have to help in creating a culture of effectiveness. One measure by itself will do little. But, multiple measures together will effectively reduce the chance of transmitting the virus. Guests will have to pay attention to social distance guidelines in the park. They will have to wash hands frequently and use sanitizer. They will have to comply with any guidelines regarding mask use.

Over the past few weeks, we have been wearing masks on a regular basis. My DH walks to the hospital and he wears his mask all the way from home to the hospital, all day there, and back home, and he is very sensitive to heat and has not had any issues (and today's high in ATL is 85). If Disney requires masks, we will put on our masks to protect those around us. If Disney makes masks optional, we will likely not wear them because the point of the mask is to have everyone wear their mask to protect those around them.

For me it is all of what you said here AND guests doing their part to protect the cast members who are the ones truly putting themselves at the most risk. For one thing they will be exposed to far more potential asymptomatic carriers than any one guest will. And for all the talk of personal responsibility and how people should just remove themselves from situations where another guest is not respecting distancing guidelines or behaving responsibly, the CMs don’t have the same kind of choices guests do in that manner. I’ve mentioned before that I manage a frontline staff in a hospitality/cultural setting. The number one question my staff has right now is how to balance providing high quality service with protecting their own safety from visitors who will not abide by guidelines. We know that the bulk of our visitors will be respectful but we also know that there will undoubtedly be a segment of them who will not. We saw it even in the last few days we were open when we tried to distance as much as possible and had many instances of people not respecting space and being put off by our subtle attempts to create that space and this was on a much smaller scale than WDW. I know from my own experience as a CP a million years ago that most guests will be great but there will always be some who will be challenging.

While I don’t plan to visit WDW until I personally feel comfortable getting on a plane and being in a crowd, if I were to go soon after they reopen I would be willing to go along with whatever safety measures Disney implements without complaint in order to protect other guests and the cast members because not everything is about me. And if I was not comfortable with some of the measures they implement because they seemed too intrusive or likely to make my trip less enjoyable then I just wouldn’t go.

 

[vinotinto]

For me it is all of what you said here AND guests doing their part to protect the cast members who are the ones truly putting themselves at the most risk. For one thing they will be exposed to far more potential asymptomatic carriers than any one guest will. And for all the talk of personal responsibility and how people should just remove themselves from situations where another guest is not respecting distancing guidelines or behaving responsibly, the CMs don’t have the same kind of choices guests do in that manner. I’ve mentioned before that I manage a frontline staff in a hospitality/cultural setting. The number one question my staff has right now is how to balance providing high quality service with protecting their own safety from visitors who will not abide by guidelines. We know that the bulk of our visitors will be respectful but we also know that there will undoubtedly be a segment of them who will not. We saw it even in the last few days we were open when we tried to distance as much as possible and had many instances of people not respecting space and being put off by our subtle attempts to create that space and this was on a much smaller scale than WDW. I know from my own experience as a CP a million years ago that most guests will be great but there will always be some who will be challenging.

While I don’t plan to visit WDW until I personally feel comfortable getting on a plane and being in a crowd, if I were to go soon after they reopen I would be willing to go along with whatever safety measures Disney implements without complaint in order to protect other guests and the cast members because not everything is about me. And if I was not comfortable with some of the measures they implement because they seemed too intrusive or likely to make my trip less enjoyable then I just wouldn’t go.

Agreed! Who is protecting the CMs? The measures are not only to protect guests, and those back in their communities, but the CMs as well.

 

[Jrb1979]

I think a lot of people are afraid the Disney Magic Bubble won't be the escape it used to be. Not being able to hug characters or seeing the smiles on the littles faces is all part of the escape for many. For me my escape at parks is hearing the screams on roller coasters.

 

[Searc]

With all the discussion about masks and modified experiences, I'm thinking I made a mistake booking for a mid-July trip. Should I just forget it and plan a beach vacation?

I would.

 

[dynastyyanks]

I would.

If this is a not uncommon sentiment on a forum of Disney park fanatics, I think park attendance will stay under 50% capacity without any blockout policies from Disney.

 

[Kp128]

I’d say plan ski vacation. Safest trip possible since everyone will be wearing masks and goggles.

In July?

 

[NashvilleMama]

With all the discussion about masks and modified experiences, I'm thinking I made a mistake booking for a mid-July trip. Should I just forget it and plan a beach vacation?

Yep. We moved ours to November - I just don't think this summer is realistic or safe, no matter what measures they put in place.

 

[mshanson3121]

In July?

In California, Oregon, and British Columbia, yes

 

[jade1]

I think a lot of people are afraid the Disney Magic Bubble won't be the escape it used to be. Not being able to hug characters or seeing the smiles on the littles faces is all part of the escape for many.

I will add that I feel bad for anybody in that situation, and that it would most likely only be temporary with vaccines/cures etc at a high priority.

For me my escape at parks is hearing the screams on roller coasters.

Were a bit more in that group as well. But will be asking for the front row to minimize the covid streaming through the cars from the screamers in front of us. Dang you EE.

 

[Kp128]

In California, Oregon, and British Columbia, yes

It must of been a good snowfall year. We had a condo in Mammoth Lakes growing up I remember a skiing a couple of times early July, but it didn't happen every year.

 

[dina444444]

It must of been a good snowfall year. We had a condo in Mammoth Lakes growing up I remember a skiing a couple of times early July, but it didn't happen every year.

Mammoth got 57” of snow in April but has had a so so season for snow with only 278” total. The last few times they were open late into the summer they received a lot more snow than that.

 

[gottalovepluto]

They can sanitize their gloves after each bag, they also use a stick now to move things around the inside of bag without having to stick their hand in, I'm sure they're thinking about every aspect of experience from the moment people cross the wdw arch on the road

Any rumblings they’ll go xray?

 

[cakebaker]

Any rumblings they’ll go xray?

That would certainly cut down the number of bags they had to manually examine.

 

[gottalovepluto]

That would certainly cut down the number of bags they had to manually examine.

Yes but are they willing to pony up $$$$$ ?....

 

[gottalovepluto]

Did everyone catch CSR is unavailable for booking until Aug 10? Google says the Tower has 545 rooms in total and the NBA has 450 players. So dangit, math works. All the rest of the resort could definitely house the media, the team’s personnel and the NBA’s personnel...

CSR reservations are still intact for those of us who already had them. If the NBA rumors are true I hope Disney moves people to appropriate alternative accommodations instead of just cancelling their hotel. (I have a reservation in June so obviously I will find a GF RPC reservation the only “appropriate alternative” ).

ETA: someone on the NBA rumor thread says it went unavailable around Thursday

 

[BadPinkTink]

Any rumblings they’ll go xray?

They have had xray conveyor belt security checks at Disneyland Paris since at least 2013

 

[cakebaker]

Did everyone catch CSR is unavailable for booking until Aug 10? Google says the Tower has 545 rooms in total and the NBA has 450 players. So dangit, math works. All the rest of the resort could definitely house the media, the team’s personnel and the NBA’s personnel...

CSR reservations are still intact for those of us who already had them. If the NBA rumors are true I hope Disney moves people to appropriate alternative accommodations instead of just cancelling their hotel. (I have a reservation in June so obviously I will find a GF RPC reservation the only “appropriate alternative” ).

I don’t think I ever heard of them just cancelling people. You usually get a phone call and quite often it results in a nice upgrade...I somehow doubt it’ll be that nice though. lol

 

[Lewisc]

They have had xray conveyor belt security checks at Disneyland Paris since at least 2013

Universal has been using x ray for years.

 

[yulilin3]

Any rumblings they’ll go xray?

That would be awesome. All of the things universal does better than Disney