Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[Eric Smith]

Please expound...

It's cheaper to do the projections than to put the lights up.

 

[Farro]

It's cheaper to do the projections than to put the lights up.

Yes, I thought maybe we had heard something more definitive...

 

[andyman8]

Please expound...

With the castle paint job, the Dream Lights strands would need either a new paint job or to be replaced entirely. There are serious conversations about sticking with (perhaps updated) projections going forward. While it may seem really early, that's kind of how Holiday Services works. I wouldn't expect a final decision until later this winter or early spring (that of course doesn't mean an official announcement by then), but these castle projections are definitely not just being viewed as a strictly temporary offering anymore. Post-holiday season, I'd expect some Guest surveys about the projections (apparently, so far, the projections are proving to be more popular than anticipated), so a lot will depend on that. They are of course much cheaper and easier to stage.

 

[Farro]

With the castle paint job, the Dream Lights strands would need either a new paint job or to be replaced entirely. There are serious conversations about sticking with (perhaps updated) projections going forward. While it may seem really early, that's kind of how Holiday Services works. I wouldn't expect a final decision until later this winter or early spring (that of course doesn't mean an official announcement by then), but these castle projections are definitely not just being viewed as a strictly temporary offering anymore. Post-holiday season, I'd expect some Guest surveys about the projections (apparently, so far, the projections are proving to be more popular than anticipated), so a lot will depend on that. They are of course much cheaper and easier to stage.

Thanks!

 

[SaintsManiac]

The lights were beautiful, but I really enjoy the projections. I’d love to see them stick around. Can’t wait to see them in person next year.

 

[rteetz]

With the castle paint job, the Dream Lights strands would need either a new paint job or to be replaced entirely. There are serious conversations about sticking with (perhaps updated) projections going forward. While it may seem really early, that's kind of how Holiday Services works. I wouldn't expect a final decision until later this winter or early spring (that of course doesn't mean an official announcement by then), but these castle projections are definitely not just being viewed as a strictly temporary offering anymore. Post-holiday season, I'd expect some Guest surveys about the projections (apparently, so far, the projections are proving to be more popular than anticipated), so a lot will depend on that. They are of course much cheaper and easier to stage.

The lights are replaced pretty regularly as is. You don’t paint lights either.

 

[andyman8]

The lights are replaced pretty regularly as is. You don’t paint lights either.

You don't paint the lights of course but the treatment for strands on which the lights are attached matches the castle to obscure them throughout the daytime. While sections are replaced regularly, this wouldn't be a regular replacement. Given the very different color palette of the castle since its refresh, there would apparently be more involved. Certainly not a huge capital investment by any means but still an added cost that hasn't existed in the past. Again, nothing seems to be final (and likely won't be for some time).

 

[rteetz]

You don't paint the lights of course but the treatment for strands on which the lights are attached matches the castle to obscure them throughout the daytime. While sections are replaced regularly, this wouldn't be a regular replacement. Given the very different color palette of the castle since its refresh, there would apparently be more involved. Certainly not a huge capital investment by any means but still an added cost that hasn't existed in the past. Again, nothing seems to be final (and likely won't be for some time).

The strands stood out previously so I don’t see why this is different. I definitely can see them forgoing the lights but I don’t buy that it’s due to having to get a different color strand.

 

[andyman8]

The strands stood out previously so I don’t see why this is different. I definitely can see them forgoing the lights but I don’t buy that it’s due to having to get a different color strand.

Oh yeah, absolutely. Much like Genie coming out really didn't mean free MBs for resort Guests had to go away, but they'll push (even internally) whatever "excuse" to achieve the end-goal.

 

[SMRT-1]

Personally, I've always thought the netting for the Xmas lights looked hideous during the day, so for me, no netting is a welcome tradeoff for potentially less spectacular holiday lighting. Not to mention that the projections can always be revised and possibly improved.

 

[mshanson3121]

I think his mentioning of stadiums being full by the end of the summer was pure hyperbole. If he’s saying social distancing and masks are still advised even AFTER the vaccine is taken, whether or not that is actually what is done state by state, county by county is another story, but if he’s saying that masks and distancing is still needed, then he didn’t actually mean that things should go back to normal. With that in mind, I think we’re going to see the same thing next summer/fall as we’re seeing with maybe a little more leniency, but still a lot of hesitation from certain areas. California for example, I could see Newsom Nye the Science Guy still having restrictions on DLR, and sporting events, etc next summer “out of abundance of caution”.

Our director (not sure what her title is, but she's helping set the guidelines for our province) has already told us that distancing and masks will be in place for at least another year. They have been very blunt in not sugar coating the fact that while it's definitely encouraging, the vaccination roll out isn't going to mean an instant normal.

 

[mshanson3121]

The lights were beautiful, but I really enjoy the projections. I’d love to see them stick around. Can’t wait to see them in person next year.

Granted, I haven't seen either in person, but comparing photos/videos I've seen, I definitely prefer the projections!

 

[osufeth24]

I was literally trying to figure out for a few hours why on the 18th had availability for all 4 parks for AP, and why it wouldn't let me book a park. It kept saying I had reached my park limit when I didn't have any parks booked.

Then I realized that starts my blackout lol. I was almost about to call Disney too, would have felt like a moron

 

[yulilin3]

I was literally trying to figure out for a few hours why on the 18th had availability for all 4 parks for AP, and why it wouldn't let me book a park. It kept saying I had reached my park limit when I didn't have any parks booked.

Then I realized that starts my blackout lol. I was almost about to call Disney too, would have felt like a moron

Perfect time to head to universal

 

[hertamaniac]

Snowcat Ridge closes almost immediately after opening.

"Some of the violations include un-permitted plumbing and electrical setups, exposed electrical boxes, extension cords and power wands sitting in puddles, and improper stacking and use of shipping containers, to name a few."

https://www.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs...t-ridge-was-just-closed-for-permit-violations

 

[yulilin3]

Starting on the 12th Columbia Harbour House downstairs area will be used as overflow queue for attractions that are nearby

 

[Krandor]

Snowcat Ridge closes almost immediately after opening.

"Some of the violations include un-permitted plumbing and electrical setups, exposed electrical boxes, extension cords and power wands sitting in puddles, and improper stacking and use of shipping containers, to name a few."

https://www.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs...t-ridge-was-just-closed-for-permit-violations

geeze. Any place built around water (or snow) better have their electrical stuff in order.

 

[Farro]

Starting on the 12th Columbia Harbour House downstairs area will be used as overflow queue for attractions that are nearby

Hmm. I wonder how that will work...

 

[rpb718]

Snowcat Ridge closes almost immediately after opening.

"Some of the violations include un-permitted plumbing and electrical setups, exposed electrical boxes, extension cords and power wands sitting in puddles, and improper stacking and use of shipping containers, to name a few."

https://www.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs...t-ridge-was-just-closed-for-permit-violations

One could say this is rather shocking news.

 

[yulilin3]

Hmm. I wonder how that will work...

Im assuming this will be used mostly for PP. Easy set up as its the same side