Criminal Minds -- DIS Official Thread 1 (SPOILERS!)

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I'm glad you had your eyes peeled for new info. :thumbsup2


Isn't she kind of old to be a profiler? In real life she's 48. Prentiss, when she "died," her gravestone listed her as 41 (which was Paget's real age, too.) When did Rossi originally retire? :scratchin

Oh well, this certainly changes the dynamics of the team. I don't see her going through the door with Morgan. That will probably be J.J. now who will be teamed with Morgan.

At least Jeanne will probably play someone with EXPERIENCE, and not a dumb cadet in training. :thumbsup2

Now, who else guessed that they'd replace Prentiss with another brunette? :wave2:
 
So I was at my parent's this past weekend and my Mom was insisting that Morgan said he was leaving the team in the season finale.

I didn't think he was, but she was insistent on it. ...did I miss something?
 
So I was at my parent's this past weekend and my Mom was insisting that Morgan said he was leaving the team in the season finale.

I didn't think he was, but she was insistent on it. ...did I miss something?

Then I did too. :confused3 I would have thought someone would have mentioned it while we were watching the show. He signed a multi-year contract last summer. So he will be around.

Is she sure he wasn't talking about Prentiss leaving and she thought he was talking about himself?


The only character/actor who we are waiting on to sign a new contract is Matthew Gray Gubler. So everyone be on the look out for that bit of news when it comes out. :magnify:
 

Then I did too. :confused3 I would have thought someone would have mentioned it while we were watching the show. He signed a multi-year contract last summer. So he will be around.

Is she sure he wasn't talking about Prentiss leaving and she thought he was talking about himself?


The only character/actor who we are waiting on to sign a new contract is Matthew Gray Gubler. So everyone be on the look out for that bit of news when it comes out. :magnify:

That's what I think it was. Just wanted to make sure I didn't miss something! :goodvibes
 
I'm glad you had your eyes peeled for new info. :thumbsup2


Isn't she kind of old to be a profiler? In real life she's 48. Prentiss, when she "died," her gravestone listed her as 41 (which was Paget's real age, too.) When did Rossi originally retire? :scratchin

Oh well, this certainly changes the dynamics of the team. I don't see her going through the door with Morgan. That will probably be J.J. now who will be teamed with Morgan.

At least Jeanne will probably play someone with EXPERIENCE, and not a dumb cadet in training. :thumbsup2

Now, who else guessed that they'd replace Prentiss with another brunette? :wave2:

No problem! I'm searching all the TV/spoiler sites looking for info on Castle (my new obsession) and saw that.
 
I was just coming here to post about the new cast member. I'm late :laughing:

I'm definitely glad she'll probably be a real agent, not a cadet. We don't need another Seaver!
 
I'm glad you had your eyes peeled for new info. :thumbsup2


Isn't she kind of old to be a profiler? In real life she's 48. Prentiss, when she "died," her gravestone listed her as 41 (which was Paget's real age, too.) When did Rossi originally retire? :scratchin

Oh well, this certainly changes the dynamics of the team. I don't see her going through the door with Morgan. That will probably be J.J. now who will be teamed with Morgan.

At least Jeanne will probably play someone with EXPERIENCE, and not a dumb cadet in training. :thumbsup2

Now, who else guessed that they'd replace Prentiss with another brunette? :wave2:

Yup, I guessed it. ;)
 
I have wondered why Hotch didn't just give over the PR stuff to someone else in the office. Heck, they could even give it to Anderson. :laughing: We don't have to see that person every week, just once in a while, like the way Strauss comes & goes.

With Hotch having a personal life again, you'd think he'd want to delegate duties to someone else. He got both J.J. & Prentiss back, so why hang onto the PR job? It is always strange to me that sometimes Hotch is supposed to be the head of the whole BAU, meaning everyone down in that bull pen, and can bark orders to someone like Anderson. Then other times, he seems to only be in charge of the 7 of them. :confused3

I liked Jordan, too. I think that was her name? If they do like they did with Rossi, they will wait a few episodes before bringing in a new team member. Of course, they didn't have much control over that, as Mandy walked off the show and they had to work episodes without him. But, it gave the audience a transition period.

I know this is old news, but why did Mandy walk off?
 
He didn't want to do series work anymore; he wanted to spend more time with his family. And his heart really does belong to Broadway.
Although that is true, that wasn't the entire foundation of his departure. FYI for anyone interested, he is in Showtime's "Homeland" series.

"Patinkin was absent from a table read for Criminal Minds and did not return for a third season. The departure from the show was not due to contractual or salary matters, but over creative differences. He left letters for his fellow cast members apologizing explaining his reasons and wishing them luck. Many weeks before his departure, in a videotaped interview carried in the online magazine Monaco Revue, Patinkin told journalists at the Festival de Télévision de Monte-Carlo that he loathed violence on television and was uncomfortable with certain scenes in Criminal Minds."
 
Although that is true, that wasn't the entire foundation of his departure. FYI for anyone interested, he is in Showtime's "Homeland" series.

"Patinkin was absent from a table read for Criminal Minds and did not return for a third season. The departure from the show was not due to contractual or salary matters, but over creative differences. He left letters for his fellow cast members apologizing explaining his reasons and wishing them luck. Many weeks before his departure, in a videotaped interview carried in the online magazine Monaco Revue, Patinkin told journalists at the Festival de Télévision de Monte-Carlo that he loathed violence on television and was uncomfortable with certain scenes in Criminal Minds."

He also simply wanted more money. He thought he was the STAR of CM, and that the show wouldn't survive without him, so that contract negotiations were in his court. Notice he was missing in the first 2-3 episodes. The writers literally had to write around him because he didn't show up to work as scheduled.

Filming ends in late April. It starts shooting again at the beginning of August. They had 3 months to re-negotiate his contract and the "creative differences" he says it was about. The writers start writing the first episode at the end of JUNE. So the first few episodes were already written, along with how much violence in them, when he didn't show up for filming in August.

Last spring, Morgan/Shemar Moore's contract was re-signed right away in MAY.

Hotch/Thomas Gibson, who also wanted way more money, his contract took till July, exactly one month BEFORE shooting to hammer out. When he was at the Monte Carlo Festival, he said the studio execs' side had stopped talking to his agent completely. He wasn't even sure if they WERE still negotiating. :( The writers said they were writing alternate stories in case he didn't come back.

This is all documented in last year's posts here - so I know the accuracy of the time lines for the 2 actors, when the writers start writing and when they start filming I got my info from their own Twitter feeds (Twitter pics when they started filming,) and any news stories I could find at the time. They all corroborated the same details.

This isn't the first series Mandy walked out on. He ALSO left Chicago Hope. And it doesn't take till the second or third episode into filming to know that CM is going to remain violent. The producers would have told him way before then that their "creative vision" of the show will REMAIN at that level, and asking to read the episodes at the end of July would have show it.

While they were re-negotiating Thomas Gibson's contract last summer, even HE made a snarky remark about Mandy leaving TWO shows that he was on WITH Mandy, and that he knows it was about more than what Mandy says it was. It was the first time I have ever seen or read him saying something bad about someone else. :eek: But, he didn't want to be lumped in with Mandy if they couldn't re-negotiate his contract and he ended up leaving the show. He really wanted it on record that he wanted to stay on the show.


As for coming back to Broadway, that is inaccurate - although he may have hoped to do that too, once free. Mandy was on CM from 2005-2007. He hasn't been on Broadway since 2003. This winter was the first time he's been back.
http://www.ibdb.com/person.php?id=55659
 
He also simply wanted more money. He thought he was the STAR of CM, and that the show wouldn't survive without him, so that contract negotiations were in his court. Notice he was missing in the first 2-3 episodes. The writers literally had to write around him because he didn't show up to work as scheduled.

Filming ends in late April. It starts shooting again at the beginning of August. They had 3 months to re-negotiate his contract and the "creative differences" he says it was about. The writers start writing the first episode at the end of JUNE. So the first few episodes were already written, along with how much violence in them, when he didn't show up for filming in August.

Last spring, Morgan/Shemar Moore's contract was re-signed right away in MAY.

Hotch/Thomas Gibson, who also wanted way more money, his contract took till July, exactly one month BEFORE shooting to hammer out. When he was at the Monte Carlo Festival, he said the studio execs' side had stopped talking to his agent completely. He wasn't even sure if they WERE still negotiating. :( The writers said they were writing alternate stories in case he didn't come back.

This is all documented in last year's posts here - so I know the accuracy of the time lines for the 2 actors, when the writers start writing and when they start filming I got my info from their own Twitter feeds (Twitter pics when they started filming,) and any news stories I could find at the time. They all corroborated the same details.

This isn't the first series Mandy walked out on. He ALSO left Chicago Hope. And it doesn't take till the second or third episode into filming to know that CM is going to remain violent. The producers would have told him way before then that their "creative vision" of the show will REMAIN at that level, and asking to read the episodes at the end of July would have show it.

While they were re-negotiating Thomas Gibson's contract last summer, even HE made a snarky remark about Mandy leaving TWO shows that he was on WITH Mandy, and that he knows it was about more than what Mandy says it was. It was the first time I have ever seen or read him saying something bad about someone else. :eek: But, he didn't want to be lumped in with Mandy if they couldn't re-negotiate his contract and he ended up leaving the show. He really wanted it on record that he wanted to stay on the show.


As for coming back to Broadway, that is inaccurate - although he may have hoped to do that too, once free. Mandy was on CM from 2005-2007. He hasn't been on Broadway since 2003. This winter was the first time he's been back.
http://www.ibdb.com/person.php?id=55659

Thanks for the info. I must have seen one of his last Broadway's. We saw him in Nov. 2003. If anyone has any interest in his show. GO! He is a very talented singer....IMHO. He did a great show. He has a great cd "Kidults" My little one loved it when she was a bit younger. She's 8 now.
 
Here is a post from last year June when Thomas was at the Monte Carlo Film festival talking about still being in negotiations over his contract. He mentions how Mandy actually quit THREE TV shows, :eek: and that the violence of the show wasn't the only reason for leaving. :rolleyes1

http://www.disboards.com/showpost.php?p=41423296&postcount=1425


I also fuzzily recall at the time he wasn't showing up to shoot, that when they did finally nail him down to come back and do a couple scenes to finish his story line, that the producers made sure to NOT have him film with any members of the Team. They did not want to schedule them for shooting and have Mandy not show up to film yet again. :sad2: (They'd have to pay the other stars if they schedule them to shoot, then Mandy doesn't show up.) That's why we only see him at the cabin by himself instead of saying a real goodbye to Reid, and then the last scene of him at the diner.



Thanks for the info. I must have seen one of his last Broadway's. We saw him in Nov. 2003. If anyone has any interest in his show. GO! He is a very talented singer....IMHO. He did a great show. He has a great cd "Kidults" My little one loved it when she was a bit younger. She's 8 now.

Oh, yes! I'm not anti-Mandy. I LOVE to hear him sing. :love: He has a voice made for Broadway. I got to see him several times in Sunday In the Park With George, with Bernadette Peters. That was when Broadway shows were still affordable to see over & over.
 
Here is a post from last year June when Thomas was at the Monte Carlo Film festival talking about still being in negotiations over his contract. He mentions how Mandy actually quit THREE TV shows, :eek: and that the violence of the show wasn't the only reason for leaving. :rolleyes1

http://www.disboards.com/showpost.php?p=41423296&postcount=1425


I also fuzzily recall at the time he wasn't showing up to shoot, that when they did finally nail him down to come back and do a couple scenes to finish his story line, that the producers made sure to NOT have him film with any members of the Team. They did not want to schedule them for shooting and have Mandy not show up to film yet again. :sad2: (They'd have to pay the other stars if they schedule them to shoot, then Mandy doesn't show up.) That's why we only see him at the cabin by himself instead of saying a real goodbye to Reid, and then the last scene of him at the diner.





Oh, yes! I'm not anti-Mandy. I LOVE to hear him sing. :love: He has a voice made for Broadway. I got to see him several times in Sunday In the Park With George, with Bernadette Peters. That was when Broadway shows were still affordable to see over & over.

interesting article!
I would have loved to see Mandy with Bernadette Peters. We saw him in his 1 man show. Just him, a piano player, and a ...puppet. I think that is what HE needs. the spot light. I do have a cd with him and Bernadette Peters. Funny, DH took me for our 20th anniversary 2 days before we left for Disney. We delivered a beautiful baby girl 9 months later. We almost named her Amanda or....Mandy for short. But thought better of it. :rotfl:
 
interesting article!
I would have loved to see Mandy with Bernadette Peters. We saw him in his 1 man show. Just him, a piano player, and a ...puppet. I think that is what HE needs. the spot light. I do have a cd with him and Bernadette Peters. Funny, DH took me for our 20th anniversary 2 days before we left for Disney. We delivered a beautiful baby girl 9 months later. We almost named her Amanda or....Mandy for short. But thought better of it. :rotfl:

:lmao: Great story!
 
He also simply wanted more money. He thought he was the STAR of CM, and that the show wouldn't survive without him, so that contract negotiations were in his court.

Gideon had that mentality too :rolleyes1 :laughing:

I knew the "creative differences" couldn't be the only reason. First of all, why would he think that a show about serial killers wouldn't involve violence? And if that was all that was bothering him he would've left after the first season.

Oh well. Gideon bugged me, and if he hadn't left we would've never known Rossi, who I love :thumbsup2
 
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