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I believe in evolution. The rest is just fairy tales made up to make Mankind feel better about themselves.
 
who really cares? when you die, you'll find out. No God:Evolution God:Creation
 

I read it, did you? It really isn't relevant to this discussion.

Microevolution within a species has been proven and documented. But that does not refute creationism. Its does not prove that humans evolved from tadpoles.

Still waiting for you to share your information with us.
I don't know what else you need. There's plenty of evidence in that link. No, it doesn't prove that humans evolved from anything, but I never said that I had proof. Nor does science claim proof. You know the difference between evidence and proof I take it?
 
so what happens if there is no God?

Consider Pascal's Wager:
If you erroneously believe in God, you lose nothing (assuming that death is the absolute end), whereas if you correctly believe in God, you gain everything (eternal bliss). But if you correctly disbelieve in God, you gain nothing (death ends all), whereas if you erroneously disbelieve in God, you lose everything (eternal damnation).
 
Consider Pascal's Wager:
If you erroneously believe in God, you lose nothing (assuming that death is the absolute end), whereas if you correctly believe in God, you gain everything (eternal bliss). But if you correctly disbelieve in God, you gain nothing (death ends all), whereas if you erroneously disbelieve in God, you lose everything (eternal damnation).
So this all seeing, all knowing God, would sooner accept a liar who pretends to believe in him, than an honest sceptic?
 
The Bible is not a science book. It does not set out to do the same things a text book does. The creation accounts (both of them) are poetic literature that speak about the handiwork of God in creation. Biblical authors did not get hung up on how God did it, so I don't either.

Great post zippa. I don't see why some religious people get so hung up about evolution and vice versa.
 
Many years ago I read a very good article about how Creationism and Evolution can co-exist. It really gave me one of those lightbulb moments.

Basically...and I am paraphrasing here...the writer said that God creating the world in 7 days should probably not be based on a literal interpretation of the word "day". A "day" in God's time could be thousands or millions of years. We humans, with our finite minds, cannot comprehend of the continuum of time.

If you think of it that way...like a painter taking years to paint a picture or a writer taking years to write a novel, it becomes much easier to co-minlge evolution and creation.

BTW, kendodd, having this be your 43rd post, and perceiving quite a bit of an "edge" to your posts make me wonder exactly what it is you are trying to accomplish? There have been very few, if any, posters on this thread who have touted Creationism as the only story with regard to how we came to be. Most have expressed some belief in Creationism mixed with evolution.

So I'm not sure why you feel the need to keep needling folks??? You seem to believe in evolution, which is certainly your right and can be supported to an extent by same factual information. If you don't want to believe that faith plays into it, then don't believe it. But why the need to call others' beliefs "bizarre"??? I don't have any issue with you believing solely in evolution. I'm not sure why you seem to have an issue with those of us who believe in Creationism or some combo of the two. Having a little pot-stirring fun on a Wednesday evening?????
 
I am sure Jenny will pop up in here to correct me, but I believe the original Hebrew used in Genesis was Yom. Yom can mean a literal 24 hour day, a twelve hour period, or an indefinite amount of time.

A little food for thought.
 
I am sure Jenny will pop up in here to correct me, but I believe the original Hebrew used in Genesis was Yom. Yom can mean a literal 24 hour day, a twelve hour period, or an indefinite amount of time.

A little food for thought.

YES, Which is part of the reason you will find very few Jews viewing Genesis literally
 
I believe God created Evolution. I guess that puts me in the "both" camp.

I know lots of public school science teachers who are religious but have no problems with teaching evolution. I'm an educator in Kansas, so we've been through this debate a few times. FYI: Last time I checked evolution was back on the state's agenda (luckily my district has always taught it).
 
...whereas if you erroneously disbelieve in God, you lose everything (eternal damnation).

I don't believe this for a second. A truly good person who, by one circumstance or another never got to know God, will still make it to Heaven IMHO.
 
So this all seeing, all knowing God, would sooner accept a liar who pretends to believe in him, than an honest sceptic?

No, you need to believe. I don't see that Pascal said, "Lets pretend".
 
I don't believe this for a second. A truly good person who, by one circumstance or another never got to know God, will still make it to Heaven IMHO.

I think that is true but it has to be someone who has NEVER heard the message and was able to make a choice. I think by the "end of times" all of the world will be able to make an informed choice.
 

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