Couple kicked off of airplane for this:

Lorix2

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I don't know how to feel about this one:

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Couple Kicked Off Plane After Fears They Abducted Their Child

POSTED: 12:11 pm EDT June 11, 2004

ERIE, Pa. -- A white couple and their adopted daughter were ordered off an airplane because police were concerned they had abducted the Chinese toddler.

Richard and Ruth Feiock, of Tallahassee, Fla., said the actions of police were bigoted and that they may file a civil lawsuit against Erie International Airport.

"It was a very racist thing to do, ordering us off of the plane," said Richard Feiock, a political science professor at Florida State University. The family was in Erie on Tuesday night to see an older daughter graduate from Northwest Pennsylvania Collegiate Academy.

Two people aboard the Delta flight became concerned when the Feiock's 2-year-old daughter began crying incessantly as the airplane sat on the tarmac, police said.

Race was not a consideration when the couple were asked to get off the plane, said David Bagnoni, director of public safety and chief of police at Erie International.

"The baby was screaming, 'Mommy, Mommy, Mommy,' and fussing, trying to get out of the hands of the woman holding her," he said. "I'm sorry they had to miss the flight, but I don't care if the baby was white, pink, blue or whatever color. Two people in particular voiced concern that the baby might not belong to them, and we had to check it out."

Police questioned the couple for 15 minutes while officers from U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services examined their passports, Feiock said.

The officers then called the Children's Home Society of Florida, the agency that handled the child's adoption.

The Feiocks missed the Erie flight and were forced to take a bus to Cleveland to fly from there.

Officials with the adoption agency said they were appalled.

"This just incensed me," said Helen Ervin, program supervisor of adoptions. "It is just unforgivable. There are about 4,500 Chinese children being adopted into the U.S. every year."
Copyright 2004 by The Associated
 
Originally posted by Lorix2
I don't know how to feel about this one:

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Couple Kicked Off Plane After Fears They Abducted Their Child


"The baby was screaming, 'Mommy, Mommy, Mommy,' and fussing, trying to get out of the hands of the woman holding her," he said. "I'm sorry they had to miss the flight, but I don't care if the baby was white, pink, blue or whatever color. Two people in particular voiced concern that the baby might not belong to them, and we had to check it out."


Better safe than sorry.
 
I am not sure what to think either. Yes, it is better to be safe than sorry, but still! I can not even begin to count the number of times I have carried my kids out of a store, kicking and screaming and calling out my name or Daddy. I see it all the time at work too. It is a very tough situation on all parts.
 
That is BS. So, if the kid was white, would they have been kicked off the plane?

sniff sniff....I smell a successful lawsuit here.
 

"This just incensed me," said Helen Ervin, program supervisor of adoptions. "It is just unforgivable. There are about 4,500 Chinese children being adopted into the U.S. every year."

And there are 100s of thousands of children reported missing each year.

I agree - better safe than sorry. A moment of inconvenience on their part for a "safety-measure" that they will hope is implemented on each and every person in custody of a child that resembles their own if, God forbid, someone should ever take their child.

If, by chance, this had been an abduction, those who took the time to check it out would be heroes....... think of the number of people that saw Elizabeth Smart before someone took the initiative to check it out........ she could have been rescued sooner.

JMHO
 
If the child had been white the "concerned" couple would have ignored the crying child. They would have assumed that the child belonged to the couple and that the child was upset about being on a plane.
 
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What proof did ANYONE have that this child was not theirs?

A child saying mommy, mommy, mommy?

Yeah, I've never seen an unhappy, squirmy child on a plane before :rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by dennis99ss
That is BS. So, if the kid was white, would they have been kicked off the plane?

sniff sniff....I smell a successful lawsuit here.

I don't see the racism implied here?

If the child was white and the parents were another nationality or race, yeah, probably the same thing might have happened.
 
I think it was a ruse to get a crying baby off an airplane;) .
 
Originally posted by IMGONNABE40!
I think it was a ruse to get a crying baby off an airplane;) .

:scratchin , Yes...it just might work.
 
Being the mother of a child adopted from China I'll admit to being biased in this situation. However, I just can't help believing that if the child had been caucasian the family wouldn't have been taken off the plane.

The flight crew certainly could have tried talking to the child or even talking to the parents. DH and I carry DD's passport and birth certificate whenever we travel.

While our family makeup is not uncommon where we live we're aware that it is in other parts of the country. If a flight attendent approached us with concerns about DD's behavior and politely questioned whether we were her parents I'd have no problem producing documentation.

Obviously the details aren't known in this situation so maybe that was done and the parents wouldn't cooperate. I know if we were in the same situation and tried to cooperate but were treated like this I'd be persuing the matter.
 
Wow...if it's not a race thing I guess I should take DS's birth certificate with us just in case he starts crying on the plane too.

I can understand where they were coming from...Obviously the girl was not their biological child. But the police shouldn't have been worried about anything, I don't think, unless there was a specific case of a missing Chineese toddler...I mean, the little girl probably didn't have a good flight on the way over and wasn't looking foward to the same discomfort on her way home and was probably just pleading with her mommy in the only way she could to not make her stay on the plane. It can be really uncomfortable on the little kids' ears to fly and she probably wasn't looking foward to that again.
 
Originally posted by Bob Slydell
I don't see the racism implied here?

If the child was white and the parents were another nationality or race, yeah, probably the same thing might have happened.


But see that's the problem. If this was done because there was concern a child was being abducted then the policy should extend to all situations where a child is crying and trying to get away from an adult irregardless of whether the child and the adult are the same race or even look alike.

What happens if a crazy uncle is abducting a niece/nephew? Are they taken off the plane and questioned or just left alone because they look alike?
 
Generally when you board an aircraft you are asked for Identification, when you check in at the ticket counter, when you go through security and sometimes even just before you board the airplane.

I would think by that time they would have discovered a problem with the child's identification if there was one.
 
Originally posted by Cruisin'Kroezes
Generally when you board an aircraft you are asked for Identification, when you check in at the ticket counter, when you go through security and sometimes even just before you board the airplane.

I would think by that time they would have discovered a problem with the child's identification if there was one.


When you are flying domestically you don't have to show ID for children under 16.

I totally believe they did the right thing! With all the missing children in this world, it may have been just one they could have saved. Now granted it was an error, but, I agree, better safe than sorry.
 
Imagine the outrage IF this child was abducted and nothing was done by the airline. It is obvious that they are in a lose/lose situation.
IMHO, always better to err on the side of caution. Racism, nah, I don't buy that, concern, definitely.
Any child trying to get away from someone and screaming Mommy, mommy, etc, while the female is holding them is going to get my attention.
 
Couldn't they have done the checking *during* the flight, and if it proved to be suspicious, had police waiting for them at the *end* of the flight, thus not inconveniencing anyone, not causing a scene, but still getting the information checked out?
 














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