Couple Arrested for Refusing to Pay Tip

Once again I will ask what did the server do so bad, not refill the guy drink. It could have been the hostess fault for no silverware. It's not the server fault on ticket times for the food

The way you make it sound....its never the servers fault.

Ok, so say its someone elses fault, the person who's tip is going to be affected is the server. If my hostess failed to put silverware on a patron's table, I would make darn sure I went and got some.
 
I think being busy run your butt off all over the places isn't giving lousy service. If the place is dead and you are being ignored that is different


From YOUR perspective as a server. And, like I said, I was a server at 4 different restaurants earlier in my life.

How about we turn it around on you? Why would you work at a place that is so woefully understaffed that you feel like you are overworked, underpaid and unappreciated?

And as a server who has worked in a Chinese restaurant, a PA Dutch buffet, a Mexican restaurant, and an all Ameircan style restaurant, I can tell you that I have seen TONS of inattentive servers. Probably more of those percentage wise than I have seen unreasonable customers.

Most people are just fine if they are just informed about the situation that is causing poor service.

Two weeks ago, my family and I went to a place called the Sly Fox... a nice pub. After seating us, our server informed us that they had 2 brand new cooks in the kitchen and service would be super slow. Not only were we A- OK, but he also offered us a discount coupon for a future visit. That is all it took to make us HAPPY while waiting 20 - 30 minutes longer than normal for our food.
 
You know, it is kinda funny they were very busy. But they weren't too busy to call the police about a gratuity! Now they have a long lasting negative press report over this.

That's why I was kind of thinking that there must have been some sort of melee that ensued that wasn't reported in the article but they weren't arrested for breach of peace or disorderly conduct or something like that, only the theft. I truly feel that the restaurant made a BIG mistake calling the police over this...
 

I typically tip minimum, regardless of the service. My family usually make a mess out of a place, I do what I can to clean up after our toddler daughters and the servers still have to reclean tables despite the service........I try not to go back or a different time

Excatly!!! I feel like when you don't live a tip you are saying that person isn't worth anything
 
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I'm out of the crazy post!! Everyone have a good night and Don't forget to tip your server
 
I'm a former waitress with over 12 years of experience.

Where I worked they did not automatically add on the gratuity for larger groups. Sometimes that worked to our advantage and the customers left more (once I received a tip of $63 from a group of 12 people, and this was in a diner so the meals were not that expensive) and sometimes it was a disadvantage when customers left very little. It was the luck of the draw.

Now, as a customer, I am MUCH more lenient with servers when the restaurant is extremely busy. I know that I am not their only customer. I've been there myself. I used to work one night a week by myself. I could be waiting on 50-60 people, all at various stages of their dinner. Plus I had to answer the phone and take to-go orders, run the cash register, and clear tables by myself. Some nights it was terrible. I was running around like a chicken with my head cut off, trying to meet everyone's needs. Most customers were extremely understanding, and even if I only made it back to their table once to check on them they still left great tips. Occasionally there were the ones who were oblivious to what was going on around them and would complain about the poor service. Well, I'm sorry, but I only have two hands and can only do so much.

Where I worked servers started out receiving $2/hour as their wage. Then it went up from there. I got up to a whopping $3.25/hour. Most people know that we don't make minimum wage, but some do not.

Also, we are taxed on 8% of the the sales for the hours of our shift. If someone stiffs us, for whatever reason, then we are actually paying out of our pocket for the privilege of waiting on them. Yes, I understand not tipping or leaving a very small tip for poor service, but it really should depend on why. But it was the non-tippers that came back time after time after time that really bothered me. Giving good service and then being stiffed just because they don't believe in the tipping process? Then eat at home and cook your own food.

I understand the frustration of food taking too long, and I did try to keep track of that and would often go to the customer and explain what was taking so long. Maybe the cook had the food almost ready, and then dropped a burger patty on the floor so had to cook a new one. Or maybe the cook was working on a rather large to-go order. I found that if I explained what I knew, they were less apt to be upset about it taking too long. And I always left a pitcher of water on tables for larger groups, many times I would leave a pot of coffee as well, or even a pitcher of Coke if that's what most were drinking.

I tried to anticipate their needs before I was asked, and I do understand not wanting to wait for silverware after your meal has arrived. It's the server's responsibility to make sure the customers have everything they might need (silverware, ketchup, napkins) before their food comes.

I kind of understand why some restaurants automatically add a gratuity for larger tables, because a larger table does take more of the server's time. If I have a 4-top and a 12-top, the 12-top is going to take longer for ordering, bringing their food out, refilling their drinks, etc. But I also understand the customer not wanting to adhere to the auto-grat of 18% when the service was lacking. It's kind of a fine line, really.

Like I said, I am very patient with servers, and if I can see they are really trying to keep everyone happy, and they are apologetic if the food takes awhile, or they haven't been back to give me a refill, I still tip well. But if the server is chatting it up with other tables, and not paying attention to her other customers, or if she is behind the counter chatting with other servers, then the tip gets lowered.

I will say, I'm very glad to be "out of the business" though. It's a hard job, and until a person has worked as a server they really have no idea how difficult it is at times.
 
Who says it's negative a few of you on here? I really think there is more to this like the couple were threwing a fit and refused to leave

Even if true, all we have, YOU INCLUDED, are the "facts" as presented. You seem to want to think otherwise.
 
I will say, I'm very glad to be "out of the business" though. It's a hard job, and until a person has worked as a server they really have no idea how difficult it is at times.

Of course not, but that statement could apply to just about any line of work. Until a person has worked retail, they have no idea how difficult it is; until a person has been a teacher, they have no idea how difficult it is, and on it goes.
 
Excatly!!! I feel like when you don't live a tip you are saying that person isn't worth anything

I don't understand what you are saying here? Do you base your self-worth on the tip left? If I don't leave a tip (which happens very, very rarely), it means the server ruined my experience at the restaurant.

If I don't have silverware and have to source my own - it is 100% the fault of the server. If you are doing your job, you will have checked on me enough to realize I needed some.

If I have to go to the bar and get my own drink - once again the server's fault. I would still leave a tip for that, but I would be peeved if I had to pay the forced 18% for such a crappy level of service.

If I'm sitting in a restaurant without food or without SERVICE for an hour, yep, once again 100% the fault of the server.
 
I wouild go there so I guess it's a postive review

I agree again, I would suppose there are folks now reading this and saying "i"m going to go and check this place out".......I would also assume that if this was a popular place then I would believe the folks not wanting to go back would be rather low, despite the negative press and might actually think that what these patrons did in fact was stupid.
 














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