Could Hollywood Studios retheme to ONLY Star Wars or science fiction?

[DebbieB]

See this article:

http://www.****************.com/fea...mored-be-their-way-disney-s-hollywood-studios

 

[Silock]

To answer the OP's question in a word........NO

There is a limited interest in Star Wars and science fiction, not enough to carry the whole park.

AKK

A SW park could easily be viable. It would be awesome to see. It won't happen, because there are just too many other good things at DHS, and a 5th gate would cannibalize attendance at the other parks. But SW is a big enough franchise to support many, many different themed lands in one park. I would imagine that just choosing a few things for one Star Wars Land is going to be extremely difficult.

 

[Aurora0427]

Nope. I'm sure many girls like Star Wars and Sci-fi, but that's simply not enough to build a theme park based on an arguably boy-oriented franchise or genre.

DHS is probably turning into a Magic Kingdom 2.0: a look into your favorite movies instead of the behind-the-movies type of theme.

Totally disagree. Tons of chicks love Star Wars, myself included. Go to Comic Con and see how many girls love sci fi. If they turned a significant portion of DHS into Star Wars, I bet you'd add a totally new group of travelers to WDW just to check it out. SW fans are rabid!

 

[Silock]

Totally disagree. Tons of chicks love Star Wars, myself included. Go to Comic Con and see how many girls love sci fi. If they turned a significant portion of DHS into Star Wars, I bet you'd add a totally new group of travelers to WDW just to check it out. SW fans are rabid!

My wife is more into Sci-Fi than I am. And I'm a huge SW nerd.

 

[twebber55]

Totally disagree. Tons of chicks love Star Wars, myself included. Go to Comic Con and see how many girls love sci fi. If they turned a significant portion of DHS into Star Wars, I bet you'd add a totally new group of travelers to WDW just to check it out. SW fans are rabid!

my brother and i are both teachers, we gave a couple hundred students a pop culture survey
one of the questions was if you could watch one movie what would it be
Harry Potter
Lord of the Rings
Star Wars

Star wars did poorly with girls

obvously this isnt scientific and was just for fun but a couple hundred kids ages 12-18 is interesting
im sure when the new movies come out it will be popular

 

[lockedoutlogic]

my brother and i are both teachers, we gave a couple hundred students a pop culture survey
one of the questions was if you could watch one movie what would it be
Harry Potter
Lord of the Rings
Star Wars

Star wars did poorly with girls

obvously this isnt scientific and was just for fun but a couple hundred kids ages 12-18 is interesting
im sure when the new movies come out it will be popular

Star Wars attempt of "strong female characters" was poor to say the least...

They went from "navy seal" natalie portman in one bad movie to "barefoot and pregnant housewife" in the next bad movie.

George Lucas wouldn't know a good story if it walked up and kicked him...
Which makes me think that somebody else wrote the Indy Jones movies and there was heavy shadow writing/screenplay alteration going on for
The original Star Wars.

Howard the duck, tucker, radio land murders?

Yeah...that seems about right

 

[nancipants]

Star Wars is a boy-oriented franchise only because marketing says it is. And they are idiots because I've spent more money that you can imagine on Star Wars merchandise--way more than my husband.

Come to a Star Wars Celebration and you will see that half the attendees are women. And we're not there just to keep our husbands company.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

Star Wars is a boy-oriented franchise only because marketing says it is. And they are idiots because I've spent more money that you can imagine on Star Wars merchandise--way more than my husband.

Come to a Star Wars Celebration and you will see that half the attendees are women. And we're not there just to keep our husbands company.

Granted...no one is doubting the established female fanbase and their purchasing power...

Why was the nfl so scared a month ago when the assault/abuse issues were front page news?

The answer - "black Friday"

But...the female fanbase can be strengthened if they do a reasonably good job building plausible female characters.

The new cartoon - Star Wars Rebels...obviously made that a very high priority.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

I actually laughed out loud at this. Totally, Star Wars is barely a thing. Just like how that Harry Potter thing is barely working for Universal...

I am not sure I understand your statement.

I repeat, Star Wars and Harry Potter for that matter, does of course have their followings, large following for that matter, however neither has enough following or possiblity of attractions to fill a whole park.

This is proved by the limits PH areas...........even part together, not near filling a whole park.

AKK

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

Somebody lives under a rock. Seriously Star Wars could easily support a park and I would expect RnR and ToT to stay.

As for the rest, yes I do think they will re-theme DHS into a Sci-fi/thrill ride park. This will definitely help to keep the US target demographic onsite instead of going to US. If there was a good theme park for the teens then instead of 3 days of Disney and 2 days of US, it would cost a lot less and make much more sense to just stay on site and visit what ever the new name of DHS is.

The options floating around have been to revamp DHS or to build a new park. Converting DHS into a new theme is a lot more cost effective.

Thank you for the kind and polite adult rock comment.

I believe its pretty clear that star wars large but limited following , same as HP, would not support a entire park, as clearly demonstrated in the 2 areas in US, no where near a entire park.

What else they may add........that is another part of the story.

AKK


AKK

 

[jbish]

Star Wars is a boy-oriented franchise only because marketing says it is. And they are idiots because I've spent more money that you can imagine on Star Wars merchandise--way more than my husband.

Come to a Star Wars Celebration and you will see that half the attendees are women. And we're not there just to keep our husbands company.

As a mother of three young kids of both genders, I fully support the idea that there are no "boy" toys/movies/things and "girl" toys/movies/things. But what I DO believe is true is that if Disney rebuilt HS centered around only one franchise/IP (Star Wars), it WILL alienate a significant portion of the WDW vacation-goers who have NO interest in that particular franchise (like us). Could my kids someday have an interest in SW? Maybe. But not right now. If that version of HS existed in any of our previous trips with the kids, we likely would not have gone to that park.

So what's wrong with the idea of having HS filled with different "lands" - SW, Pixar, Disney Animation, etc.? Disney would be making a better business decision making this park universally appealing to all ages, genders, and interests. Hasn't that been one of the biggest struggles for this park in recent years - not enough family-friendly, little-kid-friendly attractions?

 

[twebber55]

Thank you for the kind and polite adult rock comment.

I believe its pretty clear that star wars large but limited following , same as HP, would not support a entire park, as clearly demonstrated in the 2 areas in US, no where near a entire park.

What else they may add........that is another part of the story.

AKK


AKK

agree
a one IP theme park is a terrible idea and it wouldnt last...you need diversity in a theme park
star wars will be a nice addition but only needs to be a land..doesnt make any sense to do it any other way...if you do a Pixar Place and a Star wars land you get both groups
pretty simple really

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

agree
a one IP theme park is a terrible idea and it wouldnt last...you need diversity in a theme park
star wars will be a nice addition but only needs to be a land..doesnt make any sense to do it any other way...if you do a Pixar Place and a Star wars land you get both groups
pretty simple really

You said it better then I did.

AKK

 

[twebber55]

You said it better then I did.

AKK

Funny
i thought you said it better than me

 

[smiths02]

I think it would be a big mistake since two of the headliners RnRC and TSMM don't go with that theme.

I also think of it as alienating an entire audience. Star Wars people will come for Star Wars Land or Star Wars weekends...you don't have to theme the entire park to get them to come. But if that is all you offer, you alienate people who don't like or know about Star Wars or don't have children in the right age group.

 

[luisov]

Totally disagree. Tons of chicks love Star Wars, myself included. Go to Comic Con and see how many girls love sci fi. If they turned a significant portion of DHS into Star Wars, I bet you'd add a totally new group of travelers to WDW just to check it out. SW fans are rabid!

Again, I'm sure that Star Wars has tons of female fans. But a theme park cannot rely on a sole fanbase to survive. They need all the Bibbidi Babidi Boutique clientele, which probably has no interest whatsoever in the Star Wars universe.

Let's put it this way. You have your standard family visiting WDW and you go for a fun day at DHS. Say half of the family dislikes Star Wars, and all you have in DHS is Star Wars attractions. They'll probably say ''Hey, little Jessica doesn't like Star Wars... Perhaps we should split. I'll take her to the Magic Kingdom, you go with the boys to DHS'' Now, if you have different sections in your park that cater to different demographics, the family will probably say ''Well, we don't really like Star Wars, but since we are going to DHS to see Pixar Land anyways, we may as well take a look at Star Wars land and ride a couple of attractions''

 

[Lee Matthews]

I agree that these IP's need to be 'Lands' in a mixed park and not their own theme parks. Im not sure the appeal would be quite there. Im a massive Star Wars fan but id prefer to mix it up with Pixar ect.

What will always worry me is that Hollywood Studios is a small park. Doesn't take a lot to become unbearable.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

The fact is that Disney wouldn't build a Star Wars park even if their research told them
They'd have to beat people away...

Because it wouldn't move the "diversity" of product that they need to push. I use that term loosely.

The single most important statistic to Disney is how many filled Disney Parks plastic bags they "lose" that day.

A single theme is not the way to boost that number.

I'm also interested in why "Pixar place" is mentioned all the time of late...

Really? That what goin down?

Adding a third track to a six year old c ticket isnt exactly the start of a public works project.
And unless I'm missing something... They have four parks that feature one - more or less - fairly pedestrian Pixar ride in each.

I'll start holding my breath in anticipation of the arrival of the coming Pixar empire.

 

[rteetz]

The fact is that Disney wouldn't build a Star Wars park even if their research told them They'd have to beat people away... Because it wouldn't move the "diversity" of product that they need to push. I use that term loosely. The single most important statistic to Disney is how many filled Disney Parks plastic bags they "lose" that day. A single theme is not the way to boost that number. I'm also interested in why "Pixar place" is mentioned all the time of late... Really? That what goin down? Adding a third track to a six year old c ticket isnt exactly the start of a public works project. And unless I'm missing something... They have four parks that feature one - more or less - fairly pedestrian Pixar ride in each. I'll start holding my breath in anticipation of the arrival of the coming Pixar empire.

Well I believe the third track is going in as we speak I don't see anything to believe it's not. I also am starting to believe part of the DHS expansion will be pixar kiddie rides. Which would be cheap for disney and disney likes that and it's good for families with young children. I just hope that's not all we get.

 

[Silock]

I also think of it as alienating an entire audience. Star Wars people will come for Star Wars Land or Star Wars weekends...you don't have to theme the entire park to get them to come. But if that is all you offer, you alienate people who don't like or know about Star Wars or don't have children in the right age group.

But what I DO believe is true is that if Disney rebuilt HS centered around only one franchise/IP (Star Wars), it WILL alienate a significant portion of the WDW vacation-goers who have NO interest in that particular franchise (like us). Could my kids someday have an interest in SW? Maybe. But not right now. If that version of HS existed in any of our previous trips with the kids, we likely would not have gone to that park.

If the rides are good and the theming is good, there is zero chance of alienating anyone.

Is everyone in the world a HP fan? Of course not. But the attractions are so good, and have so much buzz, that people are going in droves.

It would be the same with SW land. Is everyone a SW fan? Of course not. But if it's awesome, people won't care. It's like that at any theme park.

I'm no fan of The Mummy, but that ride is fantastic and I hit it multiple times whenever we hit Universal Orlando.