Contracts drying up??

The contract allows us to transfer in or out of our memberships, so MS doesn’t have the right to tell someone they can’t, unless they hear one of the owners say there is pay involved.
Isn’t there also a clause against commercial activities?
 
Isn’t there also a clause against commercial activities?
transfers on their own don’t necessarily mean that.

What is not allowed on a membership is to use it what has been defined as using it for commercial purposes.

So, DVC can stop that if they believe it’s happening , and cancel reservations they feel are in excess. But they don’t have the right to stop transfers as long as transfer follow the rules.

The one in and out helps. DVC has loosened that rule when they occur between the same owners and allows more, but they could go back to once only.

So, MS wouldn’t be the ones who monitor whether things not allowed on a membership are happening.

That is up to DVCMC, who can monitor the buying and selling of contracts within a membership in mass and possibly use that to flag one as in violation.
 
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A lot of new listings on the aggregator from one broker. Some really stripped contacts, one I see is no points until APR 27 and doesn't close until mid June 2025. Looks like some prime examples of the recent posts on here
 


There’s someone on the rental boards here renting out their annual 8,000+ points, like they did last year. Doesn’t look like DVC cares much about commercial renting. Seems like commercial/personal use contract wording is mostly to distance themselves from any type of liability if rental/resale markets took a sharp hit.
 
That's true now.

It's not necessarily going to be true forever. DVC has a bit of a habit of following in the footsteps of other timeshare developers--for example, the path of various resale restrictions. And there are other timeshare developers that have taken a much firmer stance towards this.

If I were a Serious Renter, I would have an exit strategy in mind. I might not ever need it, but I'd want to know what it is.
 
That's true now.

It's not necessarily going to be true forever. DVC has a bit of a habit of following in the footsteps of other timeshare developers--for example, the path of various resale restrictions. And there are other timeshare developers that have taken a much firmer stance towards this.

If I were a Serious Renter, I would have an exit strategy in mind. I might not ever need it, but I'd want to know what it is.

Hasn't this come up a few times before and general consensus is Disney A) doesn't give a hoot as they just want a room filled and B) trying to implement a rule to stop renting would be near enough impossible
 
But tying this back to the topic of contracts available on the market, every contract that is stripped is usually assumed to be “stripped broker inventory!” and I just don’t think that is the case.
 
I wonder if the big dump of contacts from one broker is the same seller. Most of them have same use year and similar amount of points.
Was wondering if they found a way around some of the aggregators. Simply, to change a couple of details, repost the contract, and then they all come up as new, meaning they’re on the front page of most aggregator sites.
 
Hasn't this come up a few times before and general consensus is Disney A) doesn't give a hoot as they just want a room filled and B) trying to implement a rule to stop renting would be near enough impossible

Even if DVC didn’t directly start enforcing rules to limit commercial activity, there is plenty that could be changed that impact owners’ ability to profit. The way the contracts are written DVC only needs to protect the membership for personal use, becuase that is all they sold. Ability to rent or resell exists, but DVC/DVD has no legal requirement to avoid making choices that negatively impact commercial use.
 
Disney A) doesn't give a hoot as they just want a room filled and B) trying to implement a rule to stop renting would be near enough impossible
I don't know about A. They are also in the business of renting rooms, and would probably prefer not to have their own promotions be undercut, all other things being equal.

As for B: You can't stop it, but you don't need to. You just need to induce enough FUD* in the market to sharply curtail it. Wyndham has done this. Marriott is working on it.

From where I sit, the arguments of "Disney will never do this because..." are awfully self-serving.

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FUD: Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt.
 
Was wondering if they found a way around some of the aggregators. Simply, to change a couple of details, repost the contract, and then they all come up as new, meaning they’re on the front page of most aggregator sites.
Actually I got an email from them and the email states these are all new listings.
 
















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