Conservative Thread: U.S. Steele - Back In Business

[Muushka]

I will pray for him.

I'm a thinker!

onelilspark, I'm sorry about the migraines. I've been fighting them too. I wouldn't wish them on anyone. I do sometimes wish everyone would get just one so they know what it is like. I hope that doesn't make me a terrible person.

I got this today from a lady at work. I thought it was pretty funny but sadly somewhat accurate:

Corporate Filly
The Dakota Indians of North America passed on this piece of wisdom from generation by word of mouth - "If you are riding a dead horse the best thing to do is dismount". However in the corporate world because of the heavy investment factor other things to be tried, (but not limited to) are the following:

* buy a stronger whip
* change riders
* threaten the horse with termination
* appoint a committee to study the horse
* arrange to visit other sites to see how they ride dead horses
* lower the standards so dead horses can be included
* appoint an intervention team to reanimate the horse
* create a training session to increase the riders load share
* reclassify the horse as 'living impaired'
* change the form so it reads "This horse is not dead"
* hire outside contractors to ride the dead horse
* harness several dead horses together for increased speed and efficiency
* donate the dead horse to a recognized charity therefore deducting its full original cost
* provide additional funding to increase horse's performance
* do a time management study to see if lighter riders would improve productivity
* purchase an after market product that makes dead horses run faster
* declare the dead horse has lower overheads and is therefore more cost effective
* form a quality focus group to find profitable uses for dead horses
* rewrite the performance requirements for horses
* and finally if all else fails.....promote the dead horse into a supervisory (management) position.

Where is that 'beat a dead horse' jumpie when you need him!

 

[onelilspark]

onelilspark, I'm sorry about the migraines. I've been fighting them too. I wouldn't wish them on anyone. I do sometimes wish everyone would get just one so they know what it is like. I hope that doesn't make me a terrible person.

Thanks. I've been getting them since I was in the second grade...well, that's when they were diagnosed anyway...so that makes for at least 17 years of them. I'm on Topamax which has significantly reduced the frequency (went from 1 every other day to about 1/wk) and rarely do I get a knock-out one. Yesterday's was a knock-out, when I was posting was after I had napped for 3 hours and I still had a slight one!! Ridiculous... I'm better today though. And hopefully my 1/wk average holds out for this weekend and I won't get one!

I also look at it this way: at least my health problems aren't life threatening. I mean, they're annoying as heck, but I can deal. So I'm pretty blessed.

 

[TLSnell1981]

So, question..............

Is H purposefully trying to crash the economy, and if so - what could he gain by that?

I'm listening to Bernanke. One comment jumped out. Wasn't it a good thing we didn't allow Americans to invest part of their Social Security in the Market? So, I guess..the dems are making sure that doesn't come up again. They have scared the bejeebies out of Americans.

Of course, it's obvious this also gives him and the dastardly duo an opportunity to socialize, nationalize, communize...whatever you want to call it...healthcare, our banks, the auto industry, etc.

They aren't going to let this "crisis" go to waste. Think of the stranglehold they will have on this country and it's voters. Why do we think Obama's spending so much time campaigning? He's out securing votes....shoring up the base and increasing it.

Anyone with half a brain knows.. all the negative comments and actions have worsened the recession. There is an agenda. No tinfoil hat on my head. The dems are making up for lost time.

 

[SwedishMeatball]

DH said another spending bill was announced by LTEC Hussein. Which is sure to tank the market.

So, question..............

Is H purposefully trying to crash the economy, and if so - what could he gain by that?


My answer is YES, and the benefits are what I've mentioned before. THat a country in chaos is ripe for Communism and the stripping of constitutional rights.

Thoughts?

The more desperate the people become, the more desperate measures they will become willing to accept.

 

[onelilspark]

Here's my thinking though...if what's going on now blows up in their face, the Democratic controlled government won't be able to socialize, nationalize, etc anything because people will be pissed.

That's of course assuming people will take a minute to stop and think...hmmm...

 

[Disneycrazymom]

I think Obama knows that speed is his best option too. Some are starting to say the economy could improve as early as 2010. He knows he needs to push through whatever he can to keep it down thus the people down to take advantage of the people. If he can't keep it from rebounding at least he will have most of the agenda passed early on.

 

[TLSnell1981]

I think Obama knows that speed is his best option too. Some are starting to say the economy could improve as early as 2010. He knows he needs to push through whatever he can to keep it down thus the people down to take advantage of the people. If he can't keep it from rebounding at least he will have most of the agenda passed early on.

ITA. Most believe TARP will be key in our recovery. Look, it's about the banks. The sub-prime meltdown is the biggest culprit. There's no money to lend. Credit is frozen. Businesses can't function. We can't find loans to buy homes, cars, etc. Oil reaching all time highs didn't help.

We were on a cliff, and Obama, with the help of MSM...pushed us over the edge. It was his way to the White House. Remember? "It's the economy stupid." It's all about the $$$$. I don't care if you are rich, poor, pink or purple.

Now, credit is beginning to ease a bit. We were told it would take about six months. Hmmm...let's see...October, November, December, January, February, March... Obama must act swiftly. Shove it down our throats and take credit for the recovery. All the while, they are getting everything there they've dreamed of. They haven't had control since 1994. Lots of time to make up.

 

[Dolce27]

Here's my thinking though...if what's going on now blows up in their face, the Democratic controlled government won't be able to socialize, nationalize, etc anything because people will be pissed.

That's of course assuming people will take a minute to stop and think...hmmm...

If people actually stopped to think, this man would have never been elected in the first place.

 

[Tink & Goofy]

If people actually stopped to think, this man would have never been elected in the first place.

Precisely. It was all about the feel-good H&C rhetoric.

 

[Family Fun Mom]

DH said another spending bill was announced by LTEC Hussein. Which is sure to tank the market.

So, question..............

Is H purposefully trying to crash the economy, and if so - what could he gain by that?


My answer is YES, and the benefits are what I've mentioned before. THat a country in chaos is ripe for Communism and the stripping of constitutional rights.

Thoughts?

My thoughts are, you're right. This is intentional and I'm very worried about what is going to happen to us now.

 

[Family Fun Mom]

He hasn't even announced his budget yet! So, the dems win if this economy goes to a full blown crash - they can pretty much restructure the govt. the way they want, and it gives them an excuse to Nationalize every industry.

Especially since the Constitution has become like toilet paper to our nation's "leaders"


Follow-up Question............

Who do you think is waiting in the wings to buy everything once Hussein and his cronies (Pelosi and Reid) force the USsA to go belly up?

My guess is the same folks overseas who mysteriously contributed to his campaign.

Thoughts?


ETA: the small "s" in USsA is "states" since Socialism has diminished states rights IMO and as Nationalism grows, states' boundries become meaningless.

Breezy, you are making me want to crawl into a corner and curl up into the fetal position. I want my mommy.

 

[Humphrey Bear]

I'm listening to Bernanke. One comment jumped out. Wasn't it a good thing we didn't allow Americans to invest part of their Social Security in the Market? So, I guess..the dems are making sure that doesn't come up again. They have scared the bejeebies out of Americans.
Of course, it's obvious this also gives him and the dastardly duo an opportunity to socialize, nationalize, communize...whatever you want to call it...healthcare, our banks, the auto industry, etc.

They aren't going to let this "crisis" go to waste. Think of the stranglehold they will have on this country and it's voters. Why do we think Obama's spending so much time campaigning? He's out securing votes....shoring up the base and increasing it.

Anyone with half a brain knows.. all the negative comments and actions have worsened the recession. There is an agenda. No tinfoil hat on my head. The Dem's are making up for lost time.

It is all about making people become dependant on the Government for their survival. If you make them think that they can only live with help from The Government and the Democratic party, you will have them voting Dem in every time. You get them hooked on Government like it is a drug. They become addicts and keep running to their dealer, the Dem's, to get their fix.

All they need is to get 51% of people dependant and the rest will not be able to do anything about it.

 

[Zippa D Doodah]

Greetings everyone...

I'm such a DIS slacker here lately. It seems like I get to drop in and comment on a couple of threads and then I have to go. I know I could never catch with this thread.

I'm off to see what the loony left is up to as they prepare for the word from the Obamessiah tonight...

 

[wdwcoltsfan]

It's horrible how dismal things are, isn't it? I believe in and love America, but I hate the path we are taking.

Many dems say over and over to give BHO time that he's only been in office for a month. I look at what he has done or is considering doing in that month--huge "stimulus" that may not create sustainable jobs, more money to the automakers, a bailout for the over extended homeowners and a possible nationalization of CITI bank--and I think I don't want to see what else he will do. He is taking us down the path of people relying on government. By the time he is finished our government will be so huge it will be hard to reign back in.

The above doesn't even take into account the changes to Gitmo, the possible decrease in military spending and the whole USS Cole fiasco. It also doesn't touch on the tax increases he is imposing during a time of economic downturn.

He has made a lot of "change," but he doesn't seem to have much hope; unless crisis and catastrophe are buzz words for hope.


Rachel

 

[breezy1077]

ITA. Most believe TARP will be key in our recovery. Look, it's about the banks. The sub-prime meltdown is the biggest culprit. There's no money to lend. Credit is frozen. Businesses can't function. We can't find loans to buy homes, cars, etc. Oil reaching all time highs didn't help.
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Ding ding ding ding ding!

Yes, the meltdown is the culprit - Now let's take it one step further. Yes, banks and greed were at fault.....for the bubble bursting - BUT NOT THE MELTDOWN! I've been entrenched in the mortgage industry for 14 yrs.. The market would have self corrected. What decimated it was the legislation that came out (started in Ohio - the rest of the country followed suit) in Jan. 2007. What we witnessed in the mortgage industry was like a Tsunami. Overnight - lenders shut down products - then lenders just shut down.

The mortgage lender Implode was horrific and facinating to witness. This dramatic, overnight devastation does not happen with a housing bubble bursting - it happens with legislation.

I said at the time to DH that this is one way for the govt to gain control of the banking industry - and one way to totally destroy one of the last truly "free markets" we had left in this country...the Housing Market. I also predicted that when the housing market is decimated - the rest of the economy will follow because SO much is tied to it.

I've been correct in my predictions so far.....I hope I'm wrong with the rest.

 

[loco4dis]

Hey guys. Good discussion you're having here. I also think the housing crisis is providing the left exactly what it's wanted for years and years — a full assault on property rights. If we, as a nation, decide to tell the banks that now OWN these foreclosed homes that they have no rights to them, then the next natural step is that none of us has any rights to the homes WE own. The absolute dream of the far left (of which Obama is a full-fledged member) is to eliminate property rights all together, and "redistribute" property based "on need." Obama just gave ACORN $5 billion or so, and he gave it to them so they could start redefining "property rights" in this country. Remember, these people believe in the "collective," and they despise individual rights. The Supreme Court in its Kelo decision has already limited our property rights, so they don't have too far to go. Imagine what an Obama-majority Supreme Court would say about your RIGHTS to your own property? Just imagine. I only hope the 92% who have paid for their homes, and continue to pay for their homes, will have the will to fight back. Scary times.

 

[breezy1077]

Breezy, you are making me want to crawl into a corner and curl up into the fetal position. I want my mommy.

As long as we haven't become so complacent that we've lost the will to fight back - then all is not lost.

What's edifying to me is all the talk of Tea Party protests - we need to stand up for what's right and fight to keep our country from becoming Socialommunist!

Otherwise, we might as well change the National bird to an Ostrich.

For now, I'm "hoping" it's still....

 

[Zippa D Doodah]

I always thought that if we lost our rights of property ownership it would happen slowly. Consider me shocked to see it happening so quickly. What is even more facsinating to me is that the people of the United States are sitting back and accepting it without putting up much of a fight. Outside of a few rants from TV economist windbags, rambling rhetoric from the hollow shell that's left of the GOP in Congress, and some internet musings there has been hardly a whimper. Truly sad.

 

[Zippa D Doodah]

As long as we haven't become so complacent that we've lost the will to fight back - then all is not lost.

What's edifying to me is all the talk of Tea Party protests - we need to stand up for what's right and fight to keep our country from becoming Socialommunist!
Otherwise, we might as well change the National bird to an Ostrich.

For now, I'm "hoping" it's still....

Maybe I'm just being negative today, but I don't see any fight left in anyone. Talk... yes. Action...not so much.

 

[Humphrey Bear]

Well even with BHO and his rambling on about Change, consumers think the future is bleak with their confidence at an all time low this month.

Consumer confidence plummets to new low in Feb.

Feb 24, 10:11 AM (ET)

By ANNE D'INNOCENZIO

NEW YORK (AP) - Americans' already battered confidence in the economy went into free fall in February, sinking to new lows as consumers grew more fearful over massive job cuts and shrinking retirement accounts.

The New York-based Conference Board said Tuesday that its Consumer Confidence Index, which was down slightly in January, plummeted more than 12 points in February to 25, from the revised 37.4 last month. That was well below the 35.5 level that economists surveyed by Thomson Reuters expected.

The index, which had hovered in the high 30s over the past few months, broke new lows since it began in 1967. A year ago, the consumer confidence reading stood at 76.4.
The Present Situation index, which is consumers' assessment of current economic conditions, fell to 21.2 from 29.7 last month. The Expectations' Index, which is consumers' outlook over the next six months, sank to 27.5 from 42.5.
"The decline in the Present Situation Index, driven by worsening business conditions and a rapidly deteriorating job market, suggests that overall economic conditions have weakened even further this quarter," Lynn Franco, director of The Conference Board Consumer Research Center, said in a statement. "Looking ahead, increasing concerns about business conditions, employment and earnings have further sapped confidence and driven expectations to their lowest level ever."

Franco added that the report showed worries about inflation, which had eased over the past several months, picked up.Economists carefully monitor consumer confidence since consumer spending accounts for more than two-thirds of economic activity.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090224/D96I0S1O1.html