Combining PT's between Resorts

[disbound09]

Okay, so I am wondering how it is effective to own at various resorts and combine the points? For a week stay I need 362 pts to stay at BCV Say I own at 100 at BCV, 200 at SSR and 100 at BLT. all same UY How do I effectively leverage my 11 month window and use the points from the other resorts and go to BCV every year.

 

[Brian Noble]

If you want to book 362 points at BCV at your 11 month mark every year, you have to own 362 (or more) BCV points.

If you own 100 BCV points, you can book up to 300 points ever three years by banking and borrowing. For example, bank 2013 into 2014, and then borrow 2015 into 2014---that allows you to book a 300pt stay in 2014 at the 11 month window. You can do this again with '16, '17, and '18 points for a stay in 2017.

 

[RobDoc]

Points from multiple resorts cannot be combined for reservations until 7 months from arrival (when you are also competing with every other DVC member who'd like to stay at BCV).

As Brian noted, you will need to own enough points at BCV in order to reserve there at 11 months. Combining up to three Use Years worth of points with banked, current, and borrowed points would allow that every three years.

Good luck!

 

[drusba]

As noted points from different resorts cannot be mixed at 11 months out to reserve one of those resorts and thus it is impossible for you to reserve BCV with 362 points at 11 months annually (you cannot even accomplish that for one year by banking and borrowing BCV points).. It is sometimes helpful to note why you cannot mix points at 11 months out: If you could own some points at BCV and at SSR and mix them to reserve BCV at 11 months out, everyone would buy the minimum 25 point add-on at BCV and hundreds of points at SSR and use them all to reserve BCV at 11 months out, effectively destroying any home resort reservation advantage the owners of BCV are supposed to have at 11 months out.

 

[disbound09]

Points from multiple resorts cannot be combined for reservations until 7 months from arrival (when you are also competing with every other DVC member who'd like to stay at BCV).

As Brian noted, you will need to own enough points at BCV in order to reserve there at 11 months. Combining up to three Use Years worth of points with banked, current, and borrowed points would allow that every three years.

Good luck!

That is what I thought but wanted to see if there was anything else out there transferring points etc that I was not aware of. It makes sense and protects the owners of a particular property.

So the desirability of the small contracts is only to supplement where you own already. I was trying to figure out why the 50-100 pt are so valuable or popular. I would have to speculate for shorter stays or smaller accommodations than the 2 bedroom or GV our family currently needs.

 

[Deb & Bill]

That is what I thought but wanted to see if there was anything else out there transferring points etc that I was not aware of. It makes sense and protects the owners of a particular property.

So the desirability of the small contracts is only to supplement where you own already. I was trying to figure out why the 50-100 pt are so valuable or popular. I would have to speculate for shorter stays or smaller accommodations than the 2 bedroom or GV our family currently needs.

We have a 100 point VWL contract. We can bank and borrow to get 300 points every third year (unless we use the points at seven months). We just did a two bedroom at VWL for the marathon in January.

 

[disbound09]

We have a 100 point VWL contract. We can bank and borrow to get 300 points every third year (unless we use the points at seven months). We just did a two bedroom at VWL for the marathon in January.

Gotcha on banking and borrowing we want to go every year. But that sounds like a great way to go.

 

[DannysMom]

That is what I thought but wanted to see if there was anything else out there transferring points etc that I was not aware of. It makes sense and protects the owners of a particular property.

So the desirability of the small contracts is only to supplement where you own already. I was trying to figure out why the 50-100 pt are so valuable or popular. I would have to speculate for shorter stays or smaller accommodations than the 2 bedroom or GV our family currently needs.

IF you could find a BCV owner with points to transfer, those transferred points could be used to make a reservation with your BCV home resort priority. Transferred points retain their home resort and UY. Transferred points can be banked, but not borrowed.

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[disbound09]

IF you could find a BCV owner with points to transfer, those transferred points could be used to make a reservation with your BCV home resort priority. Transferred points retain their home resort and UY. Transferred points can be banked, but not borrowed.

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That's the answer I was looking for. I had read it before but it had not sunk in and couldn't search for it. That would make the transfer of same UY and Home Resort important to the scenario.

Are transfers common or a rare occurrence that shouldn't be used in a strategy. We actually are not considering for BCV it is for HH. If we go there and like it we are thinking of adding there. I don't really want 300 pts there and we already have 320 SSR and like the laid back atmosphere there. (just passed ROFR) I don't know if HH is available 7 months out during the summer.

 

[drusba]

A key reason many prefer those 50-100 point contracts, other than that may be the number of points they want or can buy, is that they cost less than large contracts and if you ever have to sell they are much easier to sell than contracts with a lot more points. In other words, even if buyers want to buy 300 points at one resort, buyers will often try for three or four smaller contracts at the same resort to get to that level under the assumption that someday they might have to sell and do so fairly quickly, and selling small contracts is easier to do than large contracts.

Transfers are done often but the rule is that you can transfer points only once per use year, either in or out, but not both. Thus, you cannot exchange points with another via transfer in the same use year because you cannot both transfer out and transfer in during the same use year. Also, though it may be easy to find "a" transfer, it can be much more difficult to find someone willing to transfer only the amount of points you want, e.g., you might need 45, but the other has only 30 to transfer or does not want to transfer unless it is at least 60 points.

HH can be difficult during summer 7 months out during June and July up to the last few days or so of July. It is usually avaialble end of July through Aug except potentially GVs. However, that division between the summer months is partly based on local knowledge. End of July through first two to three weeks of Aug is usually HH's jellyfish season when they just float up close to shore in large numbers.

 

[CarolynMink]

Just wanted to add how I manage frequent BCV stays with only 125 BCV pts (not all pts even the same UY). I also have 150 SSR pts and 60 VWL pts. I am a serious vacation planner so, nothing last minute here. I am also a bit of a risk taker.

I determine how many nights I can book at BCV/the room category (usually a 1BR) I want and book with my BCV pts as many nights as possible at the 11 month window. Usually, I do not book Friday and Saturday nights. Then the very first possible moment at the 7 month window, I fill in the rest of my missing nights.:

This will not always work but, I have been very lucky.

Tips: I would book a Saturday night if it is SW week- ends. The one time I would never want to wait till the 7 month window to book is during the F&W festival. My family also likes to do split stays at different resorts so, we are flexible if I can not get all my nights in at BCV. I have not tried to book BCV during December.

Good Luck.

 

[disbound09]

A key reason many prefer those 50-100 point contracts, other than that may be the number of points they want or can buy, is that they cost less than large contracts and if you ever have to sell they are much easier to sell than contracts with a lot more points. In other words, even if buyers want to buy 300 points at one resort, buyers will often try for three or four smaller contracts at the same resort to get to that level under the assumption that someday they might have to sell and do so fairly quickly, and selling small contracts is easier to do than large contracts.

Transfers are done often but the rule is that you can transfer points only once per use year, either in or out, but not both. Thus, you cannot exchange points with another via transfer in the same use year because you cannot both transfer out and transfer in during the same use year. Also, though it may be easy to find "a" transfer, it can be much more difficult to find someone willing to transfer only the amount of points you want, e.g., you might need 45, but the other has only 30 to transfer or does not want to transfer unless it is at least 60 points.

HH can be difficult during summer 7 months out during June and July up to the last few days or so of July. It is usually avaialble end of July through Aug except potentially GVs. However, that division between the summer months is partly based on local knowledge. End of July through first two to three weeks of Aug is usually HH's jellyfish season when they just float up close to shore in large numbers.

Thanks for the info on the transfers I am understanding it now I believe. That makes sense on getting rid of excess points in the future. Hadn't looked at it from that standpoint.

That is great information on the jellyfish I had no idea there was a season of some sort. Ran into them in Hawaii one year and not a pleasant encounter. I wonder how you would predict that? We are going to do a Big family get together there next year I think.

Probably not a destination point for spring break crowd is it?

 

[disbound09]

Just wanted to add how I manage frequent BCV stays with only 125 BCV pts (not all pts even the same UY). I also have 150 SSR pts and 60 VWL pts. I am a serious vacation planner so, nothing last minute here. I am also a bit of a risk taker.

I determine how many nights I can book at BCV/the room category (usually a 1BR) I want and book with my BCV pts as many nights as possible at the 11 month window. Usually, I do not book Friday and Saturday nights. Then the very first possible moment at the 7 month window, I fill in the rest of my missing nights.:

This will not always work but, I have been very lucky.

Tips: I would book a Saturday night if it is SW week- ends. The one time I would never want to wait till the 7 month window to book is during the F&W festival. My family also likes to do split stays at different resorts so, we are flexible if I can not get all my nights in at BCV. I have not tried to book BCV during December.

Good Luck.

Okay so if I wanted a week there in a two bedroom at HHI or BCV in June and had only say 100 pts to work with. You book the max number of days in the room type you want and then at 7 month mark you try to get the additional days you were looking for. If not you go to a different resort for remainder. You book during the week as the pts go further I am assuming.

 

[CarolynMink]

Okay so if I wanted a week there in a two bedroom at HHI or BCV in June and had only say 100 pts to work with. You book the max number of days in the room type you want and then at 7 month mark you try to get the additional days you were looking for. If not you go to a different resort for remainder. You book during the week as the pts go further I am assuming.[/QUOTE]

Yes, that is what I do. Right now, BCV 1BR are booked for all week days in June. Yet, two week-ends are still available.

 

[Disneyhappy]

Please help to clarify something for me. I ave BCV and SSR contracts. I booked two BCV studios for 11/9,10,11. I am waiting for the 7 month to add 3 more nights (11/12,13,14) with my SSR points. Since I already have the first three nights booked, does the 7 month booking widow open up from the 11/9 date or the 11/12 date. I think it is 11/12 but a few posts here have me confused.

 

[DannysMom]

Please help to clarify something for me. I ave BCV and SSR contracts. I booked two BCV studios for 11/9,10,11. I am waiting for the 7 month to add 3 more nights (11/12,13,14) with my SSR points. Since I already have the first three nights booked, does the 7 month booking widow open up from the 11/9 date or the 11/12 date. I think it is 11/12 but a few posts here have me confused.

Pretty sure you are working with the 11/12 date, as it will be a second reservation (with non home resort points) you would then need to call or MS to have the two reservations linked.

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[bobbiwoz]

Please help to clarify something for me. I ave BCV and SSR contracts. I booked two BCV studios for 11/9,10,11. I am waiting for the 7 month to add 3 more nights (11/12,13,14) with my SSR points. Since I already have the first three nights booked, does the 7 month booking widow open up from the 11/9 date or the 11/12 date. I think it is 11/12 but a few posts here have me confused.

You would be booking from the 11/12 date if you were using the SSR points. If you wanted to begin looking from the "7 months before" 11/9 date if available, then you can use your SSR points.

 

[LisaS]

Please help to clarify something for me. I ave BCV and SSR contracts. I booked two BCV studios for 11/9,10,11. I am waiting for the 7 month to add 3 more nights (11/12,13,14) with my SSR points. Since I already have the first three nights booked, does the 7 month booking widow open up from the 11/9 date or the 11/12 date. I think it is 11/12 but a few posts here have me confused.

When using non-home resort points, you cannot book any night prior to the 7-month window. Since you are trying to book the nights of 11/12 and beyond at BCV with SSR points, your window opens on the April 12th not April 9th.

If there is availability for 11/9, 10 and 11 on April 9th, another strategy would be to make a new reservation on that day for 11/09 and beyond with your SSR points. Assuming you were able to get at least 11/9, 10 and 11, cancel your original reservation, freeing up your BCV points. (If you were only able to book, say, 11/9 and 11/10, call MS and modify your original reservation and drop those two nights only.) Then use those BCV points to book the rest of your stay which you can do at that time since you would be using home resort points. A bit more complicated but it would give you a 3-day head start.