Pea-n-Me
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I commuted to school which was about 30 minutes away. I went to school full time for Engineering. I also had a part/full time job 15 minutes in the opposite direction from my house so 45 minutes away from school. In between I had to do my school work, socialize and sleep when I could. I barely did anything at my university that wasn't about school No time for fraternities or societies, etc. Because I didn't do well in one class, I had to drop it and I went from 4 years to 4 1/2 years. By senior year I was already interning for Engineering.
School wasn't paid for either. I took out loans that I had to pay off like 6 years after school.
So, it's hard for me to have sympathy for "some" college kids because I would have liked to gone away to school, not have to pay for it, not have to work, and go to parties. I know that's not everyone's college experience but it certainly wasn't mine.
I could have used some therapy puppies/kitties sessions.
Do you have kids in college yet? When you commuted to school, did you live at home, or live on your own?Working 40 hours a week along with full time school was stressful. My weekends were working. So the rare breaks that I got were a few hours after work to spend with friends or in between classes to sleep in the library.
My college experience was similar to yours, but I worked two jobs, also a good distance from both school and home, lived on my own (so had those bills to pay, without parental help), and it took me longer than that to finish (due to the dumb mistakes I made). Fortunately, I did have my dog with me in my apartment, though.

Yet, I don't see the issue we're discussing here as coddling at all, as my pp indicates. (FTR I do NOT agree with altering a cirriculum or cancelling exams and such, but I do not have a problem with coloring books and puppies!)
My DD is in her first year at my alma mater, studying in the same program I graduated from. She also commutes, by choice, and works at a job she's held for several years. It's been interesting seeing her course of study as it compares to my own of thirty five years ago. Courses have the same content (Bio and A&P don't change much) but testing is different. I think they try to mirror the way many of the standardized and licensing tests are today, and as we all know, some of those can be quite tough; they are formatted differently (and IMO more confusingly) than the tests I took years ago. Obviously, this generation has grown up with them that way, so it may be a moot point for some, especially those who are better test-takers. But then again, many people struggle, particularly when they have difficulty with the material being tested, as well. In DD's program, many have dropped out, and dropped classes already (and she's on edge about her grades much of the time, too, seeing some of the friends she's made either disappear or struggle with classes, even fail some already).
In one way, students today have things a lot easier than people of my generation did because information is right at their fingertips, and you don't even have to know how to type very well in order to bang out a paper. I remember my friend and I having to physically go to the library at night, even in the throes of winter, to do our research and having to xerox pages out of books (@ I forget how much, but at a certain cost per page), then trek home, sort through everything again, etc, all before beginning to write. I also wasn't the greatest typist on a typewriter (as this was in the 80s, before even the word processor came out) so I actually paid a lady $3/page to type my papers for me after I finished writing them. Given that some of my papers were 50 pages long (not a typo), it was pretty pricey to get my papers completed by the time all was said and done. I had loans (although, in comparison, the total amount was only a little more than it was for one semester for one kid this fall), but was able to pay them off fairly quickly, and DH and I were able to buy our first home two years after I graduated.
But despite having laptops, printers, easy ways to communicate, high tech classrooms and the like, costs of virtually everything are drastically elevated


Look, we know that suicides in that age group are on the rise, as is aggression on campuses, yada yada yada. Many here have said that even years ago they had things on campus to relieve stress during difficult times, and we've learned a lot since then about the health consequences and ramifications of stress, so I'm not sure why we should even compare interventions of today to those of years ago. (Would we do that with cancer, or other health advances?) Coloring and puppies are a brilliant, simple way to help with stress reduction and something today's college students can build on later on. Win-win is right. Again, dumbing down the cirruculum or eliminating testing during times of strife, not good for anyone. But I don't think that's what is going on in most colleges, as far as I can tell.
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