Cindy Sheehan Arrested

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Free4Life11 said:
I think it's good that she is keeping the war in the limelight (though with Bush interjecting a mention if it at any possible point, it's not hard for it to be forgotten about.)

If we are so concerned about security, why don't we beef up security on Amtrak, ports, etc. Why don't we stop spending billsion in Iraq and spend more money IN OUR COUNTRY!

I just heard they may give ANOTHER $50 billion for the war. Unbelievable! When will it end??

C'mon, get with the program. One woman protesting in front of the WH is much more dangerous than a dirty bomb in a shipping container or people streaming across the border.

I was going to say "sneaking over the border"............hahahahahaha, broke myself up with that one.
 
ThAnswr said:
You should get one of those "bean ladders". You put one in the pot when you're cooking the beans, and the little farts climb right out. I saw them in Montana. ;)
:rotfl: OK, if you were trying to get me to exit this thread by spewing ice tea all over my monitor... it worked. Now I gotta find the monitor cleaner, some towels... probably will need a new keyboard, too. :badpc:
 
sgtdisney said:
Remember as old (and boring) as the ding dings are, they are still George W. Bush's fault.

Oh, and George W. Bush made me mention Clinton as part of his grand scheme.

Aren't you the competitive little devil. ;)
 

ThAnswr said:
So in other words you have no problem with elected officials telling you how, when, where, and why you should exercise your First Amendment Constitutional right to petition your government? That is what happens when an elected official sets up a designated protest zone.



Presidential protection does not include violating someone's Constitutional rights. Presidential protection can be carried to the nth degree and is something that feeds on itself until it gets bigger and bigger and bigger.

Put your politics aside and understand what's happens when some gives you a "designated protest" zone.

Yes, Presidential protection (and many other things) may "interfere" with (but not abolish or even violate) some of your Constitutional rights. Try attending a Clinton OR Bush rally carrying a concealed sidearm or a canister of mace.

You might even be pushing it if you had toe nail clippers in your pocket. :teeth:

All large protests HAVE to be managed for the safety of the general public AND the protestors. You may feel that's an attempt to supress or silence your protest but it's not.
 
ThAnswr said:
You can't make this stuff up.

Oh yeah, Bush has been a terrific president............to paraphrase Bill Maher..........why paraphrase him, here's what he said:

"Mr. President, this job can't be fun for you any more. There's no more money to spend--you used up all of that. You can't start another war because you used up the army. And now, darn the luck, the rest of your term has become the Bush family nightmare: helping poor people. Listen to your Mom. The cupboard's bare, the credit cards maxed out. No one's speaking to you. Mission accomplished.

Now it's time to do what you've always done best: lose interest and walk away. Like you did with your military service and the oil company and the baseball team. It's time. Time to move on and try the next fantasy job. How about cowboy or space man? Now I know what you're saying: there's so many other things that you as President could involve yourself in. Please don't. I know, I know. There's a lot left to do. There's a war with Venezuela. Eliminating the sales tax on yachts. Turning the space program over to the church. And Social Security to Fannie Mae. Giving embryos the vote.

But, Sir, none of that is going to happen now. Why? Because you govern like Billy Joel drives. You've performed so poorly I'm surprised that you haven't given yourself a medal. You're a catastrophe that walks like a man. Herbert Hoover was a ****ty president, but even he never conceded an entire city to rising water and snakes.

On your watch, we've lost almost all of our allies, the surplus, four airliners, two trade centers, a piece of the Pentagon and the City of New Orleans. Maybe you're just not lucky. I'm not saying you don't love this country. I'm just wondering how much worse it could be if you were on the other side.

So, yes, God does speak to you. What he is saying is: 'Take a hint.'

-Bill Maher"

Amen, Bill.

And this has to do with Mrs. Sheehan purposely getting herself arrested, how, exactly? :confused3
 
septbride2002 said:
So whether her family, her ex, or her son agreed with the war - that doesn't mean she dishonors them by stating she does not.

~Amanda
She dishonors them in one of her many statements; Referring to the insurgents as freedom fighters. Disgusting.
 
Bob Slydell said:
And this has to do with Mrs. Sheehan purposely getting herself arrested, how, exactly? :confused3

Whatta you a wise guy? It has nothing to do with it. Sheeeesh.
 
ThAnswr said:
Whatta you a wise guy? It has nothing to do with it. Sheeeesh.



Bwahahahah!! Now that's funny. You can't make this stuff up!!
 
ThAnswr said:
C'mon, get with the program. One woman protesting in front of the WH is much more dangerous than a dirty bomb in a shipping container or people streaming across the border.

That's right.

I was shocked when I rode Amtrak in January. Walked on the train, put my suitcase on the lower level, and we took off. I could have easily filled it with explosives, exited the train without taking it (it had no identification on it...an opps on my part) and then KABOOM. There goes Union Station.
 
I wonder who gave the order to arrest her? The conservatives must hate them to bits at the moment - they made a mountain out of a molehill.



Rich::
 
DawnCt1 said:
She dishonors them in one of her many statements; Referring to the insurgents as freedom fighters. Disgusting.
I used to agree with this sentiment (that she was dishonoring her son), but my mind has changed on this point. She and her son disagreed about the Iraq war while he was still alive. Mothers and sons can disagree and yet both can still honor the other. I'm pretty sure that Casey loved and honored his mom as much as any son could. Ms. Sheehan is keeping his memory alive and honoring him by helping others remember the sacrifice Casey made.

Ms. Sheehan may protest the war and that's her right. But I don't believe anymore that her protests of the war dishonor her son, his memory or his sacrifice. Casey Sheehan made a hard choice to go to Iraq and serve. He gave his life there. There is nothing anyone can do, much less anything Ms. Sheehan can do, that will take anything away from what Casey Sheehan did.
 
roger_ramjet said:
I didn't think one could be arrested merely for being disturbed.


However, they can be arrested for being disturbed, while disturbing others! :teeth:
 
Now this is funny - watch the AP change the lede of this story, not once, but twice, in their attempt to "frame" Cindy Sheehan in just the right way:

Compare these leads:

1:57 p.m.-- Cindy Sheehan, the California woman who has used her son's death in Iraq to spur the anti-war movement, was arrested Monday while protesting outside the White House.

At AP Headquarters: "Oops, did I say "used"? I didn't mean used."

3 p.m.-- Cindy Sheehan, the California woman driven by her son's death in Iraq to re-ignite the anti-war movement, was arrested Monday while protesting outside the White House.

AP Headquarters: "Yeah, driven. That's the ticket."

Update 3: Lead No. 3 on this story at 3:38 p.m.:

Cindy Sheehan, the California woman who became a leader of the anti-war movement following her son's death in Iraq, was arrested Monday along with dozens of others protesting outside the White House.

AP Headquarters: "You know, because the whole process was, like, so organic. Cindy didn't really "use" or "drive" anything so much as she "became" the conscience of a country veering horribly off course. It was her simple request to meet with the President, her private grief, and her authenticity that won us over. Not that we're on her side, mind you."
 
Tigger_Magic said:
I used to agree with this sentiment (that she was dishonoring her son), but my mind has changed on this point. She and her son disagreed about the Iraq war while he was still alive. Mothers and sons can disagree and yet both can still honor the other. I'm pretty sure that Casey loved and honored his mom as much as any son could. Ms. Sheehan is keeping his memory alive and honoring him by helping others remember the sacrifice Casey made.

Ms. Sheehan may protest the war and that's her right. But I don't believe anymore that her protests of the war dishonor her son, his memory or his sacrifice. Casey Sheehan made a hard choice to go to Iraq and serve. He gave his life there. There is nothing anyone can do, much less anything Ms. Sheehan can do, that will take anything away from what Casey Sheehan did.

If I could write very well in English , this is what I would have written ! Thank you !
 
toto2 said:
If I could write very well in English , this is what I would have written ! Thank you !
See... on rare occasions, even us neo-cons can have a change of heart. ;)
 
bsnyder said:
Now this is funny - watch the AP change the lede of this story, not once, but twice, in their attempt to "frame" Cindy Sheehan in just the right way:

Compare these leads:

1:57 p.m.-- Cindy Sheehan, the California woman who has used her son's death in Iraq to spur the anti-war movement, was arrested Monday while protesting outside the White House.

At AP Headquarters: "Oops, did I say "used"? I didn't mean used."

3 p.m.-- Cindy Sheehan, the California woman driven by her son's death in Iraq to re-ignite the anti-war movement, was arrested Monday while protesting outside the White House.

AP Headquarters: "Yeah, driven. That's the ticket."

Update 3: Lead No. 3 on this story at 3:38 p.m.:

Cindy Sheehan, the California woman who became a leader of the anti-war movement following her son's death in Iraq, was arrested Monday along with dozens of others protesting outside the White House.

AP Headquarters: "You know, because the whole process was, like, so organic. Cindy didn't really "use" or "drive" anything so much as she "became" the conscience of a country veering horribly off course. It was her simple request to meet with the President, her private grief, and her authenticity that won us over. Not that we're on her side, mind you."
Well Bet, they do say that the media sets the agenda these days and not the politicians. I wonder how good a thing that is.



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