Cindy Sheehan Arrested

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holycow said:
I get sick of hearing that line in defense of the war. I will never believe that getting rid of him was worth 1900 American lives.

those men and women didn't die in vain...we make it so by being so disrespectful of their service to our country. By removing Saddam we saved another 400,000 children in his country from dying of starvation, lack of clean water etc....I'd say those soldiers didn't die in vain at all.


Sheehan doesn't deserve the attention she's getting. Her soldier knew what he was fighting for. It is a shame his mom is using this as a vehicle to her 15 min. of fame. shame, shame

Holycow

I am not being disrespectful of their service. If 400,00 children were saved that is great. But how many others have died? There are alot of countries that are killing their own people, should we invade them too?

Bush started a war without any idea of how to end it. I don't believe that it is America's responsiblity to save the world.

How can you be so sure her son knew what he was fighting for? I don't know what we are fighting for. All the reasons Bush has given have turned out not to be true.

Her son died, she is allowed to decide how to deal with it, and I don't think she wants her 15 min. of fame, she probably only wants her son not to have died.
 
mum4jenn said:
"The anti-war demonstrations "can affect the war in a really negative way. It gives the enemy hope."

Oh, what a load :rotfl: I'd love to know how when they are here and not involving bombs :rolleyes:

Random jihad involved person : "Yay, a group of Americans that have almost zero power over the government have started a protest against the war...We have hope now!”

:rotfl:
 
I'm home today with my ill son and caught the noon news and the newscasters were reporting that the anti-war movement group led by Cindy were planning a civil disobedience and expected to be arrested this afternoon.

This was a planned and eagerly desired arrest. Don't bother protesting the validity of the law on Sheehan's account - she wanted to be arrested in full view of the media.

A couple of days ago, she complained on her blog that the media was spending too much time covering Hurricane Rita.

She's just desperate to get back in front of the camera.

Her motives are lost on me, at this point. Bush is not going to change his policy over Sheehan's activities, and the more histrionic she becomes, the more her movement will be seen as "extremist" instead of mainstream.
 

There were arrests in protests held in D.C. for similar reasons long before Bush was president.
 
I have to admit, the following CNN quote does bother be:

"Others who were arrested also cooperated with police. Sgt. Scott Fear, spokesman for the U.S. Park Police, said they would be charged with demonstrating without a permit, which is a misdemeanor."

A permit? As far as I know, needing a permit to protest is not a new concept (ie, its been around since long before before Bush), but I still don't like it. If this is all they have to charge her with, I'm none too happy. How could needing a permit to protest be seen as constitutional?
 
chadfromdallas said:
What kind of honor does a death in Iraq carry when it happens guarding an oil supply? :confused3

The honor comes from the willingness to serve. The honor comes from the idea that a soldier does what a soldier does to help other people. Without question, because that is what they are trained to do. Sometimes that honor exacts a price. And to suggest that a soldiers death is not honorable because they happened to be guarding an oil supply is despicable.

Most people that are against this war have no problem showing their support for the troops, if not the war.

No big deal indeed.

Richard
 
JoeThaNo1Stunna said:
You are never going to have a war that 100% of the military supports, however when you sign up for the military you know you might fight for a cause you don't believe in.

Ding ding ding...Name one reason why Chad will never join the army ;)
 
ThAnswr said:
What part of "private citizen" in their "private home" do you not understand?

I'm not an elected official and the WH isn't a private residence. When you protest me, a private citizen, it's called disturbing the peace. When you protest your government, it's called exercising your First Amendment rights.

The Constitution doesn't guarantee your right to protest a private citizen, but does give you the right to petition your government.

As far as the $10 movie, protest all you want. Knock yourself out.

The end of your drive way is a public street. Should I be allowed to obstruct traffic? Your hatred for the president has blinded your perspective, not unlike Cindy Sheehan. Because she lost a son doesn't give her the right to go unchallenged when she calls the president the biggest terrorist in the world, accuses troops of torture, considers New Orlean occupied, compares our government to fascists and says that this country is not worth dying for. She is a nut case plain and simple. Those who allign themselves with her are nut cases as well. There are a lot of squirrels in DC. She better watch it.
 
Every American citizen's constitutional freedoms/rights are not absolutes. No one has the absolute right to free speech; there are numerous, very Constitutional restrictions on that right, just as there are restrictions on other rights. These restrictions exist and are recognized by the courts for a very good reason: to grant citizens absolute, unrestricted rights would bring about something just this side of anarchy.
 
swilphil said:
Come on over and try. This could be fun. I'll warn you that I just ran into my trash can that was at the bottom of my driveway.;)

You made my point. Cindy took her chances and reaped the consequences.
 
Tigger_Magic said:
I have no problem with the DC police enforcing the laws of DC as pertains to protests held in front of or nearby the White House. I also have no problem with providing sufficient protection for the President, regardless of any qualifiers, at any location he/she may be present.

I have no problem either with legitimate security concerns. But how much is legitimate security concerns and how much is inconvenience to elected officials?

Long before Bush became president, and long before 9/11, the Bush state house set up designated protest zones in Austin.

Not everything is legitimately tied to 9/11, but there are a potful of politicians using it as an excuse and a potful of private citizens using it as a rationalization.
 
It is something terribly sad that the most newsworthy story is that of a (possibly) disturbed, grieving mother.

It is also a little bit strange that the police were more willing to arrest a protester than to enforce more serious laws.



Rich::
 
Well it now sounds like it was her intent to be arrested and she accomplished her goal.. So I guess in the grand scheme of things, this was a "win" situation for her..
 
DawnCt1 said:
The end of your drive way is a public street. Should I be allowed to obstruct traffic? Your hatred for the president has blinded your perspective, not unlike Cindy Sheehan.

My perspective is that Bush is has been a disaster for this country. I expected him to be a crappy president, but he has succeeded beyond my wildest expectations.

DawnCt1 said:
Because she lost a son doesn't give her the right to go unchallenged when she calls the president the biggest terrorist in the world, accuses troops of torture, considers New Orlean occupied, compares our government to fascists and says that this country is not worth dying for. She is a nut case plain and simple. Those who allign themselves with her are nut cases as well. There are a lot of squirrels in DC. She better watch it.

Squirrels, nuts,..............nah, too easy. ;)
 
ThAnswr said:
I have no problem either with legitimate security concerns. But how much is legitimate security concerns and how much is inconvenience to elected officials?

Long before Bush became president, and long before 9/11, the Bush state house set up designated protest zones in Austin.

Not everything is legitimately tied to 9/11, but there are a potful of politicians using it as an excuse and a potful of private citizens using it as a rationalization.
There have been restrictions on protesting in front of the White House for ages -- as long as I can remember. Most protests are allowed to occur across the street in Lafayette Park -- in full view of the White House. On occasion, with prior clearance, some protests have been allowed to occur in front of the White House lawns, but I believe there have always been requirements that protestors must keep moving during the protest.

There are some legitimate reasons to restrict protests because if we allowed anyone/any group to protest anywhere, anytime, especially at political events, such as conventions, the public's normal ability to travel is impeded and public safety is compromised.

I wholeheartedly support anyone's right to protest whatever they want. More power to Cindy -- long may she protest the war in Iraq.

She and everyone else just need to learn that there are some laws they must follow and if they don't, they suffer the consequences. You can protest in front of the White House, but you just can't sit down in front of it. Hardly seems like something to become morally outraged over.
 
ThAnswr said:
My perspective is that Bush is has been a disaster for this country. I expected him to be a crappy president, but he has succeeded beyond my wildest expectations.



Squirrels, nuts,..............nah, too easy. ;)
You made my point. Blinded by your hatred.
 
C.Ann said:
Well it now sounds like it was her intent to be arrested and she accomplished her goal.. So I guess in the grand scheme of things, this was a "win" situation for her..

It got her and her plight back onto the TV. She's smarter than she looks.

Anyone up for some baconated coke?



Rich::
 
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