Cindy Sheehan Arrested at Capitol

[wvrevy]

Either you're ignorant or less than honest. President Bush gave a whole series of speeches leading up to the war, and never once did he say Hussein huge piles of WMDs was the reason for going to war. Nice try to rewrite history.

Wow...Not even sure how to respond to that. If you are truly that divorced from reality, there's just no point in even trying. Still, you may want to do yourself a favor and at least do a google search before making such absurd claims.

Here...I'm feeling charitable, so I'll even help you out. This is just one speech, but it's pretty typical of the speeches he gave in the run-up to the war:

President Bush Outlines Iraqi Threat

 

[Judge Smails]

My friend, wvrery served proudly in America's armed forces...what exactly did you do to be able to be so glib and ask people to go anywhere?

I think his biggest contribution was to eat a rather large crow.

 

[MrsKreamer]

Protests are one thing and getting into the limelight is a big part of it. Ask MLKjr. You only call her a nut bag because you disagree with her. If she were marching around the country doing the exact same thing, camping in front of Crawford, etc, etc. protesting Hillary Clinton, you'd have her over to your house for dinner every night.

It's not her, it's her message you have a problem with.

First off I did not call "her" a "nutbag" I said throwing herself in the limelight is making her look like a "nutjob".
Second, I really don't understand what you mean about her at my home for dinner... I think that if she wants to protest the war, have at it. Just don't ***** and whine when you get detained for trying to get attention at the SOTU address. Don't blame your son's tragic death on the president. Her son signed up for the military of his own free will.

Toto- I don't think anyone is "pro-war" it is sometimes a necessity of the cruel world we live in.

Does anyone else think that Cindy may have munchausen's(sp)? Mothers do this kind of thing with sick kids, take advantage of the limelight to gain attention for themselves...Just a thought

 

[Judge Smails]

Either you're ignorant or less than honest. President Bush gave a whole series of speeches leading up to the war, and never once did he say Hussein huge piles of WMDs was the reason for going to war. Nice try to rewrite history.

HOLY SMOKES!

Were you in a coma?

Say bye bye to Mr. Credibility

 

[Judge Smails]

First off I did not call "her" a "nutbag" I said throwing herself in the limelight is making her look like a "nutjob".

It really doesn't matter how you phrased it you were questioning her mental stability.

Second, I really don't understand what you mean about her at my home for dinner

It's fairly easy. If she were beating up Hillary Clinton instead of GWB, she'd be your best bud and you'd be cheering her on. Again...it's not the woman that is the problem it's her message.

 

[numbersman]

Wow...Been here for all of 21 posts and less than a month, and you already feel at-home enough to tell a member of 6+ years that they should leave?

Thanks, but I think I'll pass.

Does the DIS Board now confer certain rights based upon how long you've been a member? Didn't think so.

 

[MrsKreamer]

It really doesn't matter how you phrased it you were questioning her mental stability.



It's fairly easy. If she were beating up Hillary Clinton instead of GWB, she'd be your best bud and you'd be cheering her on. Again...it's not the woman that is the problem it's her message.

Nope, that's where you have me wrong. I would never invite over a woman who uses her son's death for publicity. If she badmouthed Hillary Clinton the same way she does the president, I still wouldn't have any respect for her.

 

[numbersman]

It is funny when somebody is anti war , they need conselling , and the pro war dont

Don't generalize. It's not ALL the anti-war folks who need counseling, just this wackjob who has clearly gone off the deep end. You don't hear the pro-war folks acting like this, though, do you?

 

[tiger95]

Anybody that thinks this is still about her dead son is a fool. Her protests now are about advancing HER political agenda, nothing more nothing less. She has every right to protest, but the least she could do is be honest about her intentions.

 

[toto2]

Either you're ignorant or less than honest. President Bush gave a whole series of speeches leading up to the war, and never once did he say Hussein huge piles of WMDs was the reason for going to war. Nice try to rewrite history.

"Full text: Bush's speech

A transcript of George Bush's war ultimatum speech from the Cross Hall in the White House

Tuesday March 18, 2003

My fellow citizens, events in Iraq have now reached the final days of decision. For more than a decade, the United States and other nations have pursued patient and honorable efforts to disarm the Iraqi regime without war. That regime pledged to reveal and destroy all its weapons of mass destruction as a condition for ending the Persian Gulf War in 1991.

Since then, the world has engaged in 12 years of diplomacy. We have passed more than a dozen resolutions in the United Nations Security Council. We have sent hundreds of weapons inspectors to oversee the disarmament of Iraq. Our good faith has not been returned.

The Iraqi regime has used diplomacy as a ploy to gain time and advantage. It has uniformly defied Security Council resolutions demanding full disarmament. Over the years, U.N. weapon inspectors have been threatened by Iraqi officials, electronically bugged, and systematically deceived. Peaceful efforts to disarm the Iraqi regime have failed again and again -- because we are not dealing with peaceful men.

Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised. This regime has already used weapons of mass destruction against Iraq's neighbors and against Iraq's people.

The regime has a history of reckless aggression in the Middle East. It has a deep hatred of America and our friends. And it has aided, trained and harbored terrorists, including operatives of al Qaeda.

The danger is clear: using chemical, biological or, one day, nuclear weapons, obtained with the help of Iraq, the terrorists could fulfill their stated ambitions and kill thousands or hundreds of thousands of innocent people in our country, or any other. "


PLease note that he does not say that Saddam could , or might , or is possible to have in his posession some weapons , he says that : "Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised."

And Mr Bush says that Saddam used thse weapons againts his own people , but forgets to say that it was before the first Gulf War , before he was disarm. He stating that this war is nessesary because of the treat Saddam is to the USA , not toward his own people.

The link to the full text of the speeche:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,916543,00.html

 

[Judge Smails]

Don't generalize. It's not ALL the anti-war folks who need counseling, just this wackjob who has clearly gone off the deep end. You don't hear the pro-war folks acting like this, though, do you?

You mean like that fellow Rush?

 

[wvrevy]

No, but apparently agreeing with the president grants you the right to tell people they should leave the country unless they agree with you.

It cracks me up that you Bush-people who SOOO love to prattle on about how proud you are to be Americans are so QUICK to tell anybody that chooses to excercise their rights in dissent that they should leave. Well...it would be funny, if it weren't so sad.

 

[Judge Smails]

"Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised."

George W. Bush

How's it feel to be a dupe?

 

[wvrevy]

You mean like that fellow Rush?

Nah...I think he meant like O'Reilley, who encouraged Al Queda to blow up a building in downtown San Francisco 'cause they had the nerve to disagree with him on something.

Then there's that bastion of the right wing Pat Robertson...but nah, we won't get into that.

 

[numbersman]

No, but apparently agreeing with the president grants you the right to tell people they should leave the country unless they agree with you.

It cracks me up that you Bush-people who SOOO love to prattle on about how proud you are to be Americans are so QUICK to tell anybody that chooses to excercise their rights in dissent that they should leave. Well...it would be funny, if it weren't so sad.

You're welcome to stay or go, doesn't matter to or affect me one way or the other. I'm not quick to say anything about where you live; I don't care where you live. And she's free to exercise her right to dissent all day long, AS LONG AS SHE DOES IT ACCORDING TO THE LAW, which evidently she did not at the SOTU address. And for that, she was rightfully detained. Unless, of course, you are saying that it should be OK to protest however you want, even if it means you break the law, whether you agree with the law or not?

 

[Judge Smails]

No, but apparently agreeing with the president grants you the right to tell people they should leave the country unless they agree with you.

It cracks me up that you Bush-people who SOOO love to prattle on about how proud you are to be Americans are so QUICK to tell anybody that chooses to excercise their rights in dissent that they should leave. Well...it would be funny, if it weren't so sad.

Hey Rev, Nice to see you . Tell me I always get that "America love it or leave it" thing a bit confused. Is that slogan closer in line to being a fascist or a Nazi? I'm leaning towards fascist. What do you say?

 

[numbersman]

Nah...I think he meant like O'Reilley, who encouraged Al Queda to blow up a building in downtown San Francisco 'cause they had the nerve to disagree with him on something.

Then there's that bastion of the right wing Pat Robertson...but nah, we won't get into that.

Then there's that whole state of...nah, we won't go there, either.

 

[Judge Smails]

You're welcome to stay or go, doesn't matter to or affect me one way or the other. I'm not quick to say anything about where you live; I don't care where you live. And she's free to exercise her right to dissent all day long, AS LONG AS SHE DOES IT ACCORDING TO THE LAW, which evidently she did not at the SOTU address. And for that, she was rightfully detained. Unless, of course, you are saying that it should be OK to protest however you want, even if it means you break the law, whether you agree with the law or not?

Oh so you like the law?

Leading legal scholars have claimed that Bush broke the FISA law. You must agree that if he did then he should be arrested.

 

[Ziva]

Please forgive me if this has been mention but she wasn't the only one tossed for wearing a T-shirt-

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/01/31/sheehan.arrest/index.html

Activist Sheehan arrested in House gallery
GOP congressman says his wife was also ordered to leave


Wednesday, February 1, 2006; Posted: 1:00 p.m. EST (18:00 GMT)

A House security officer takes Cindy Sheehan out of the chamber gallery before President Bush's speech.



WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Peace activist Cindy Sheehan was arrested Tuesday in the House gallery after refusing to cover up a T-shirt bearing an anti-war slogan before President Bush's State of the Union address.

According to a blog post on Michael Moore's Web site attributed to Sheehan, the T-shirt said, "2,245 Dead. How many more?" -- a reference to the number of U.S. troops killed in Iraq.

"She was asked to cover it up. She did not," said Sgt. Kimberly Schneider, U.S. Capitol Police spokeswoman.

House rules bar demonstrations in the galleries.

On Wednesday, U.S. Rep. Bill Young, R-Florida, spoke on the House floor saying his wife, Beverly, had been "ordered to leave" the gallery during the speech for wearing a shirt that said, "Support Our Troops."

Young, an 18-term congressman, held up his wife's shirt during his remarks, speaking with anger and emotion about her treatment.

"She has a real passion for our troops, and she shows it in many, many ways," Young said.

"And most members in this House know that, but because she had on a shirt, that someone didn't like, that said, 'Support Our Troops,' she was kicked out of this gallery while the president was speaking and encouraging Americans to support our troops. Shame. Shame."

Sheehan held 4 hours

Sheehan was arrested around 8:30 p.m. ET Tuesday on charges of unlawful conduct, a misdemeanor that carries a maximum penalty of a year in jail, Capitol Police said.

She was handcuffed and held in the Capitol building until she was driven to the Capitol Police headquarters for booking. According to her blog, she was released about four hours after her arrest.

Sheehan, who became a vocal war opponent after her son was killed in Iraq, was an invited guest of Rep. Lynn Woolsey, D-California. Woolsey has called for a withdrawal of troops in Iraq and supports legislation for the creation of a Department of Peace.

Sheehan gained national attention in August when she and hundreds of other protesters camped outside Bush's ranch in Crawford, Texas, and demanded an audience with the president.

She also recently penned a book, "Not One More Mother's Child."

In April 2004, Sheehan and other relatives of troops killed in Iraq met with Bush during a visit to Fort Lewis, Washington, shortly after the death of her son, Army Spc. Casey Sheehan, 24.

Sheehan later said that the president wouldn't look at pictures of her son and "didn't even know Casey's name."

The Vacaville, California, resident has said she'd like to meet with Bush again to discuss her opposition to the war.

The president has declined another meeting and has taken issue with Sheehan's calls for a withdrawal of troops from Iraq.

"She expressed her opinion; I disagree with it," Bush said in August. "I think immediate withdrawal from Iraq would be a mistake."

 

[Judge Smails]

Please forgive me if this has been mention but she wasn't the only one tossed for wearing a T-shirt-

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/01/31/sheehan.arrest/index.html

You are correct.