Cindy Sheehan Arrested at Capitol

[Disney1fan2002]

She was not the only one escorted out. A Senator's wife wearing a SUPPORT OUR TROOPS t-shirt was also kicked out.

So, no political statements from either side are allowed. Period.

 

[LindsayDunn228]

Most of all, I don't like people who act the martyr. Many people have horrendous things happen in life. You have to deal with it and get on with life.

I have never heard truer words.

 

[numbersman]

Guess it wasn't really so clear that she was breaking the law:

"WASHINGTON - Charges against antiwar protester Cindy Sheehan, who was arrested after an incident involving a T-shirt she wore to the State of the Union address, will be dropped, officials told NBC News Wednesday.

U.S. Capitol Police took Sheehan away in handcuffs and charged her with unlawful conduct, a misdemeanor, when she showed up to President Bush’s address Tuesday night wearing a shirt that read, “2245 Dead. How many more?” — a reference to the number of soldiers killed in Iraq.

But Capitol Police will ask the U.S. attorney's office to drop the charges, NBC News’ Mike Viqueira reported Wednesday.

“We screwed up,” a top Capitol Police official said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

He said Sheehan didn't violate any rules or laws.

Sheehan, whose son Casey died in Iraq, was not the only one ejected from the House gallery. The wife of a powerful Republican congressman was also asked to leave, but she was not arrested."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11120353/

Now that you know that she CLEARLY didn't break any laws, do you believe that she should have been free to exercise her right to dissent?

I won't say that we CLEARLY know she didn't break any laws, since this is an initial report from an anonymous source. However, IF this is true, and she DIDN'T break any laws, then yes, I support her RIGHT to dissent, but still feel that she should show a little more common sense and restraint when doing so.

 

[Independent]

She was not the only one escorted out. A Senator's wife wearing a SUPPORT OUR TROOPS t-shirt was also kicked out.

So, no political statements from either side are allowed. Period.

But Cindy Sheehan was the only one arrested for "protesting." The republicans wife was only asked to leave due to her t-shirt.

Doesn't matter though.

The police department has egg on their face and they are dropping the charges and have issued a public apology as of this morning to Ms. Sheehan.

 

[WDWMom]

I feel sympathy for the woman, but she has to promote her cause and operate within the law/rules. She is not above them. She should not recieve special consideration, she has to be responsible for her actions to be taken seriously.

Bad move on her part

I totally agree.

 

[toto2]

I think you misunderstood. The reference to previous quotes by Democrats is about quotes made in the late 90's by members of the previous administration and members of Congress, before President Bush took office. There are numerous quotes regarding Saddam's having WMD and that is what 3princesses4us was referring to.

But by the timePresident Bush declare war , the intelligence he had said that there was no WMD , no links to el quaida, no nothing. Collin Powell said that his presentation at the UN was one of the lowest point in his carrer. It is now proven that the intelligence was arrange around the facts that so that mr Bush could have his war. What is important is not wat went on years before the war , but on wath ground the person who started said war did.

 

[toto2]

toto2, here is the link to our local paper, it has some info but not everything I said. http://www.thereporter.com/sheehan

Thank you for the link . So far , what I am reading , only her in-laws are protestiong what she is doing. The husband is silent on the subject and refuse to answer the questions. So there is no way to say that he divorced her because of her actions. No words about her other children either. Here is what Miss Sheeans has to say about all this:


" Cindy Sheehan, the Vacaville woman staging a war protest outside of President Bush's Texas ranch, responded Friday to criticism of her effort by members of her family.

The protesting 48-year-old mother of a soldier killed in Iraq noted on her Web log that the admonition came from her in-laws who were "disagreeing with me in strong terms, which is totally okay with me, because they barely knew Casey."

Casey Sheehan, 24, was killed in Iraq in April 2004. Sheehan is camped near Bush's Crawford, Texas, ranch insisting on another face-to-face meeting with the president to protest the war. Sheehan and her family met with Bush in June 2004, but opted at that time not to question him about the war nor chastise him.

"We have always been on separate sides of the fence politically and I have not spoken to them since the elections when they supported the man who is responsible for Casey's death," Sheehan wrote of her in-laws. "The thing that matters to me is that my family - Casey's dad and my other three kids - are on the same side of the fence that I am."

She told a reporter for an Austin, Texas, newspaper that she and her husband, Patrick, have separated, but said, "We both are handling our grief differently," according to the newspaper.

"He agrees with the philosophy behind what I'm doing, that the war was wrong and George Bush lied, but he doesn't understand that I have a passion that I have to do this and this is the only way. If I can shorten the war by one minute and save one life, that would just give me so much comfort in my grief."

Patrick Sheehan has declined to comment publicly about his wife's efforts. "

I keep on reading your link.

 

[wvrevy]

The real reason neo-cons can't stand Cindy Sheehan. She makes it hard for them to remain in their little fantasy world, what with all that talk about the dead soldiers.

 

[Independent]

The real reason neo-cons can't stand Cindy Sheehan. She makes it hard for them to remain in their little fantasy world, what with all that talk about the dead soldiers.

Love the cartoon

Isn't it the truth!

 

[charlie,nj]

The real reason neo-cons can't stand Cindy Sheehan. She makes it hard for them to remain in their little fantasy world, what with all that talk about the dead soldiers.

I don’t get the cartoon or the quote.....are they trying to say that President Bush is afraid to talk about the great sacrifices our brave soldiers are making in Iraq?

Strange I think he did talk about it in his State of the Union address on national television the other night. (A Marine's sacrifice) I think it was a most touching tribute to our fallen brave soldiers…I cried… sorry it had NO affect on some..

*************************
A Marine's sacrifice

Our men and women in uniform are making sacrifices -- and showing a sense of duty stronger than all fear. They know what it is like to fight house-to-house in a maze of streets, to wear heavy gear in the desert heat, to see a comrade killed by a roadside bomb. And those who know the costs also know the stakes.

Marine Staff Sergeant Dan Clay was killed last month fighting the enemy in Falluja. He left behind a letter to his family, but his words could just as well be addressed to every American.

Here is what Dan wrote: "I know what honor is. It has been an honor to protect and serve all of you. I faced death with the secure knowledge that you would not have to ... Never falter! Don't hesitate to honor and support those of us who have the honor of protecting that which is worth protecting."

Staff Sergeant Dan Clay's wife, Lisa, and his mom and dad, Sara Jo and Bud, are with us this evening. Our nation is grateful to the fallen, who live in the memory of our country. We are grateful to all who volunteer to wear our nation's uniform -- and as we honor our brave troops, let us never forget the sacrifices of America's military families.

***************************

God bless you Dan and all our brave troops and their families...THANK YOU!!!


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[wvrevy]

So, wait...it's not ok for Cindy Sheehan to use her son's death as motivation in fighting against the war - a political cause - but it will cause tears when the brave ( ) president does it ?

Yeah...he cares so much that he sent them in unprepared, with fewer troops than were needed (per his commanding officer, whom he replaced for daring to disagree), and spent their lives for...what, exactly ? So that the secular government of Hussein - kept in check by UN sanctions - could be replaced by a religious theocracy?

 

[cardaway]

Bush has never given a SotU speech, only hours of political statements. A SotU speech would have focused on Katrina, not rah rahs about his war.

 

[toto2]

So, wait...it's not ok for Cindy Sheehan to use her son's death as motivation in fighting against the war - a political cause - but it will cause tears when the brave ( ) president does it ?

And I will had that it seems that the people who are for this war are ready to use the death of the soldier to motivate the continuation of the war in order to ho=nor those soldier who died , by having more soldiers killed. But to use your son's death to promote peace is bad

 

[Tigger_Magic]

I've reached the point of not caring what Cindy Sheehan thinks or is motivated by or does. I disagree with her primarily because she portrays herself as the martyr in every situation and I find her not to be believeable in what she says/writes.

She is free to protest all she wants and if I support her right to free speech, to be consistent, I must support that right for every other American, too, whether I agree with them or not. If it is acceptable to criticize public figures, such as President Bush or Donald Rumsfeld or Dick Cheney, then it is also acceptable to criticize all public figures, including Cindy Sheehan who continues to force herself with the media's willing assistance into the public eye. If she insists on being in the public spotlight, she gets no free pass or shield from its critical glare.

 

[wvrevy]

Again, T_M, nobody has said differently. But it takes a particular lack of class to accuse someone of using their own son's death to make themselves famous. It takes a particular lack of class to focus only on personal attacks as opposed to attacking the message that people claim to disagree with (whatever that is...I mean, she was wearing a shirt that listed the number of men and women killed, with the question "How many more?" printed on it...What's to argue with?).

But hey...there's no law against being having no class. I have no problem with people that disagree with her message, though I don't happen to. I don't even really have a problem with people who dislike her methods, which can certainly be a bit over-the-top, to say the least. What I have a problem with is people attacking her - having sacrificed nothing of their own to this war they claim to support - and accusing her of not caring about her son's death, other than in how it could benefit her. While they're certainly free to say it, I'm just as free to say what I believe it reveals about their lack of character.

 

[charlie,nj]

The real reason neo-cons can't stand Cindy Sheehan. She makes it hard for them to remain in their little fantasy world, what with all that talk about the dead soldiers.

Oh so the cartoon and quote are saying that President Bush is afraid of the protesters because they talk about the war dead and sacrifices of the brave soldiers? Is it saying that President Bush and the pro war people are in a fantasy world and they think no soldiers are dying in Iraq. Oh wow that’s a good one..



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[numbersman]

So, wait...it's not ok for Cindy Sheehan to use her son's death as motivation in fighting against the war - a political cause - but it will cause tears when the brave ( ) president does it ?

Here's a guess - maybe it had something to do with the manner in which the President conducted himself, compared to the manner in which Sheehan is conducting herself. Just a thought.

 

[toto2]

And now , just a small comment about the tow wardrobe eviction from the State of the Union adress I just read:

"Indeed, as Sheehan, who had passed through Capitol security monitors without incident, noted, "I knew that I couldn't disrupt the address because Lynn had given me the ticket and I didn't want to be disruptive out of respect for her."

No one has suggested that Sheehan was in any way disruptive. "


She was handcuffed and arrested

"Beverly Young, the wife of Rep. C.W. Bill Young, a Florida Republican who chairs the House Defense Appropriations subcommittee, showed up for the State of the Union address sporting a T-shirt that read, "Support the Troops Defending Our Freedom." When Capitol Police asked her to leave the gallery because she was wearing clothing that featured a political message, Young says, she argued loudly with officers and called one of them "an idiot."

But Young was not handcuffed. She was not dragged from the Capitol. She was not arrested. She was not jailed.

Sheehan, who caused no ruckus, was arrested not because she engaged in "unlawful conduct." Rather, by all accounts, she was arrested because of what her T-shirt said and, by extension, because of what she believes. "


From:http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0202-25.htm

 

[dcentity2000]

But by the timePresident Bush declare war

He didn't declare war; he just attacked.



Rich::

 

[Alicnwondrln]

i found the above post interesting and it was on the news this a.m that the woman of a member was also made to leave for the same thing wearing a shirt supoorting the troops but she was NOT arrested, photographed, and finger printed
kinda funny it only happened to the sheehan, now the police are back peadling and trying to say sorry cuz they were wrong