Christians suing for the right to be intolerant

[wvrevy]

Apparently, there is a "christian" group that is taking it upon itself to challenge "intolerance" laws in the courts. The link below is to a story in the LA Times about a bigot...excuse me...a girl at Georgia Tech who is challenging the school's rules on intolerance towards (big surprise) gays.

Christians Sue for Right Not To Tolerate

So, are they going to start wearing "Who would Jesus harrass?" armbands? These people are truly disgusting.

 

[WIcruizer]

Well, I happen to agree with the girl. The 1st Ammendment seems to protect all types of outrageous speech. And I don't even think it's that outrageous for fundamental Christians to speak out against gays.

 

[Patch'sD]

I must agree with you. Very Stupid Group, thanks for the info

 

[wvrevy]

Well, I happen to agree with the girl. The 1st Ammendment seems to protect all types of outrageous speech. And I don't even think it's that outrageous for fundamental Christians to speak out against gays.

This isn't a first amendment issue. She is free to spew her hatred towards gays all she wants outside of the limits of the college itself. However, they have the right to state that such ignorant behaviour will not be allowed on their campus. The state also is within it's power to forbid bigotted hiring practices, as the courts have repeatedly stated.

I guess you won't mind then if the rest of us speak out against fundamentalist christians? I mean, as long as they don't mind being bigots towards gays, why should they cry if I won't hire one of them into my place of employment? Oh...wait...that's right...The laws are for other people, not them...right?

 

[tiger95]

You may not agree with what she has to say, but to deny her the right to speak out is just as bad.

 

[dadto1]

Sorry double post!

 

[dadto1]

I guess you won't mind then if the rest of us speak out against fundamentalist christians? QUOTE]


Never stopped you before! I find it odd how you seem to think christian people are just brainwashed idiots and then you hold them to a higher standard than others. Which is it?

 

[WIcruizer]

The state also is within it's power to forbid bigotted hiring practicesQUOTE]

Of course. That's different than preventing people from stating their opinions. But even at that, a law doesn't prevent behavior anyhow. Most employers aren't stupid enough to state an illegal reson for not hiring someone.

She is free to spew her hatred towards gays all she wants outside of the limits of the college itself.

Of course. That's the whole point of the law suit. The courts will decide if the college does, in fact, have that right.

I guess you won't mind then if the rest of us speak out against fundamentalist christians?

Of course. You're free to speak out against fundamental Christians. In fact, it's rather trendy to do so.

 

[PlaneJoy1]

I guess you won't mind then if the rest of us speak out against fundamentalist christians?

The Christian faith is attacked every day.... there are plenty of people that use their free speech to do just that.

You may not agree with article, but because she can not speak out against the gay lifestyle, she can not fully practice her faith. That's not what I would call Freedom of Religeon.

 

[ford family]

Originally posted by wvrevy
Christians suing for the right to be intolerant

Aren't you being a bit hypocritical here?
You often invoke your right to be intolerant, intolerant of anybody who has a different opinion to your own?

ford family

 

[jgmklmhem]

I guess the problem I see is that Georgia Tech is a Public University. So if a school (as an arm of whatever government) is establishing a religion by having a Christmas break or having a Christmas tree...which people have shown is the case in court many times over then denying her right to speak such crap on campus is also the state taking away her free speech rights. Private school or business I really don't care they are private and not run by the state. On the same token having read some of the speeches given at Black Student Union (funded through student fees...SGA) functions (at FSU) where white people were denegrated and demonized and this is tolerated I can't see her bigoted speech against gays any different.

 

[In a hurry]

You may not agree with what she has to say, but to deny her the right to speak out is just as bad.

I agree. Everyone should have a right to speak. That isn't to say I won't judge them for that.

It seems there was an abundance of money thrown at teaching "tolerance" at the U. I went to. Most of the time it seemed they were just preaching to the choir.

 

[WIcruizer]

Legislating tolerance. An idea doomed from the start. Just like hate crimes legislation. Is murder somehow more acceptable if the reason isn't bigotry?

 

[Free4Life11]

I don't even understand this whole "tolerance." Tolerance does not mean you have to like someone. In fact the word tolerate MEANS to put up with something unepleasant!

I had to tolerate a roommate last semester who I hated. Tolerance is not about peace, love, and happiness. It's about putting up with people you don't like!

 

[LukenDC]

It's a shame that a significant minority of Christians regard bigotry as a cornerstone of their faith. They are in essence arguing that homosexuals should be subject to harassment, which is simply despicable. With all of the problems in the world that could be ameliorated through ecumenical collaboration, some fundamentalists have opted to spend their time demonizing innocent people and devising ways to make life intolerable for them. Very pathetic and sad.

People do have a right to free speech, but they do not have a right to harass and intimidate an entire group of people or the right to interfere with their fellow Americans' right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Fundamentalist groups do have the right to speak out against homosexuality and as much as I disapprove of the message, I agree with their right to free speech. The same goes for KKK and other hate groups.

I strongly disapprove of the fundamentalist agenda, but I don't harass or discriminate against religious fundamentalists. I provide them with the same respect that I would want to receive in return.

 

[Kitka]

You may not agree with article, but because she can not speak out against the gay lifestyle, she can not fully practice her faith. That's not what I would call Freedom of Religeon.

I take major issue with that as a Christian. She can't practice her faith without being hateful and slamming others? Sorry, that's not the Christianity Jesus taught. The courts can decide the merits of the case, but the argument that she HAS to be allowed to spew hate to practice Christianity is laughable at best, and horrifying to me personally.

 

[In a hurry]

Very nicely said, LukenDC.

 

[Teejay32]

I don't even understand this whole "tolerance." Tolerance does not mean you have to like someone. In fact the word tolerate MEANS to put up with something unepleasant!

I had to tolerate a roommate last semester who I hated. Tolerance is not about peace, love, and happiness. It's about putting up with people you don't like!

I agree. Maybe "acceptance" is a better word.

 

[tw1nsmom]

It's a shame that a significant minority of Christians regard bigotry as a cornerstone of their faith. They are in essence arguing that homosexuals should be subject to harassment, which is simply despicable. With all of the problems in the world that could be ameliorated through ecumenical collaboration, some fundamentalists have opted to spend their time demonizing innocent people and devising ways to make life intolerable for them. Very pathetic and sad.

People do have a right to free speech, but they do not have a right to harass and intimidate an entire group of people or the right to interfere with their fellow Americans' right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Fundamentalist groups do have the right to speak out against homosexuality and as much as I disapprove of the message, I agree with their right to free speech. The same goes for KKK and other hate groups.

I strongly disapprove of the fundamentalist agenda, but I don't harass or discriminate against religious fundamentalists. I provide them with the same respect that I would want to receive in return.

I totally agree. I also couldn't believe the following quote from the article:


"Think how marginalized racists are," said Baylor, who directs the Christian Legal Society's Center for Law and Religious Freedom. "If we don't address this now, it will only get worse."

The more average Christians attempt to defend these fringe extremists, the more they push people away from Christianity in general.

 

[chobie]

I take major issue with that as a Christian. She can't practice her faith without being hateful and slamming others? Sorry, that's not the Christianity Jesus taught. The courts can decide the merits of the case, but the argument that she HAS to be allowed to spew hate to practice Christianity is laughable at best, and horrifying to me personally.

Yes, where in the bible does it say one has to speak out against homosexuality to be practicing their faith?

Wouldn't say, feeding the poor, be a better use of a Christian's time, energy and money?