Chris Kyle has been killed!!!!!

[LuvinLucifer]

Everyone has the right to their opinion. Isn't that democracy? No need for a pile on.

Everyone has the right to their opinion, but others have the right to opposing opinions. The First Amendment protects us against government prosecution, not public ridicule.

 

[donaldlovesdaisy]

Or else????

Just makes you look silly that's all and of course I putting that nicely for the family friendly boards!

 

[bunkkinsmom]

I had no idea who he even was and had to google.

Keeping track (and bragging) about how many human beings you killed isn't war.

Yes it is. He was a sniper, the best sniper. How do you determine who the best sniper is? Well, by kills or distance. His longest distance was approximately 2100 yards. Belittling a man's prowess at his position when he served four tours in Iraq received 14 different awards and decorations, including two Silver Stars, five Bronze Stars with Valor, and two Navy and Marine Corps Achievement Medals is what irritates me. Comparing Chris Kyle's actions to gun violence is IMHO disgusting.

Let's say you are a general in wartime. You have a situation that calls for a sniper. It's a huge situation, very very pivotal. How do you determine which sniper to send in? These are not hand to hand combat guys, they can't measure performance the same as others. You determine performance of a sniper, whose job it is to hit a target, by how many targets he has hit.

By the way, in regards to your comment about him bragging....

"In an interview last year with NBC News, Kyle said he didn't want to put the number of kills in the book but the publisher insisted.

"If I could figure out the number of people I saved, that's something I would brag about," he told NBC.

Have you watched interviews with this man? Because I have yet to see one where he was "bragging".

 

[TLSnell1981]

maybe because according to the cdc there were over 30,000 gun related deaths last year

deaths by stoning, zero (or at least I think it was zero, I couldn't even find a statistic on it.)

you're right that all of the above are lethal but if you think about it, that can apply to every thing from ingesting water to quickly to freezing to death to botulism from a cut.

But I'll start praying for the others when criminals start holding little boys hostage with a frying pan.

KWIM

I think If Chris's killer had come at him with a hockey stick you may have had a different outcome.

I think, you missed my point. Personally, I pray for ALL victims of violence. I don't pick and choose.

 

[bunkkinsmom]

Not afraid to speak my mind to bullies. Everyone is entitled to an opinion.

Anyone who writes a book bragging about killing 255 people (160 of which are confirmed by the Pentagon) doesn't rate as hero status in my book.

I bet the families of the the people he killed have a different story to tell.

That is war.

Who is being a bully? Did I miss it?

He wasn't bragging about it, see my previous post. Also, I bet those families do have a different story to tell. I'm not sure what that has to do with the difference in gun violence and war? Am I missing something else?

 

[LuvinLucifer]

If you have a problem with this guy you have a problem with every member of the armed forces. Assuming they are performing their duties in accordance with the ROE they all support the same mission and have allegiance to the same Commander-In-Chief. Some may have different roles, but ultimately their job is the same(to follow orders of their superiors). The ones who deviate from this(such as those who committed war crimes at Abu Ghirab) are really the only exceptions.

 

[donaldlovesdaisy]

Not afraid to speak my mind to bullies. Everyone is entitled to an opinion.

Anyone who writes a book bragging about killing 255 people (160 of which are confirmed by the Pentagon doesn't rate as hero status in my book.

I bet the families of the the people he killed have a different story to tell.

That is war.

Edited because it really isn't worth it!

 

[TLSnell1981]

Not afraid to speak my mind to bullies. Everyone is entitled to an opinion.

Anyone who writes a book bragging about killing 255 people (160 of which are confirmed by the Pentagon) doesn't rate as hero status in my book.

I bet the families of the the people he killed have a different story to tell.

That is war.

Another perspective..he saved many lives by taking out his targets...and not only American lives.

 

[bunkkinsmom]

How are you so sure that the people he killed have done far worse? Faith?

Dude seriously? How sure are you that they haven't? Why do you PRESUME that they haven't? Why do you automatically have concern for the other person rather than the American Serviceman? Honest questions, because I simply don't understand.....

 

[TLSnell1981]

So I'm just wondering, are you anti gun?

I refuse to turn this into a gun debate. This thread should honor Chris Kyle and I don't want it closed.

 

[bunkkinsmom]

I refuse to turn this into a gun debate. This thread should honor Chris Kyle and I don't want it closed.

I completely agree! Thank you!!

 

[LuvinLucifer]

Does anyone have any evidence he killed civilians? Otherwise he is no different than any other serviceman, including the members of SEAL Team 6. If you have a problem with him following orders then you have a problem with just about anyone in the military. If you have a problem with the orders then your problem is really far higher up.

 

[donaldlovesdaisy]

I refuse to turn this into a gun debate. This thread should honor Chris Kyle and I don't want it closed.

Yep!

 

[LSmith]

Dude seriously? How sure are you that they haven't? Why do you PRESUME that they haven't? Why do you automatically have concern for the other person rather than the American Serviceman? Honest questions, because I simply don't understand.....

Why do you automatically have concern for the American serviceman?

Aren't we all equal?

Can you imagine an Iraqi writing a book about how many Americans they have killed?

 

[donaldlovesdaisy]

The US hasn't had soldiers in Iran since 1981.

Anyone who choose to travel to a country like Iran is putting their life in jeopardy and should think wisely before doing so!

 

[LuvinLucifer]

Aren't we all equal?

No. Targeting civilians is a war crime. Targeting OBL and other terrorists is an act of heroism.

 

[Gumbo4x4]

Why do you automatically have concern for the American serviceman?

Aren't we all equal?

Can you imagine an Iraqi writing a book about how many Americans they have killed?

Those who put on a uniform and carry a flag are most assuredly not "equal" to those who dress as and hide amongst civilians. They are indeed a higher class.

As for part two, we have not been in combat against the Iraqi Army for many years. But I'm sure somewhere there is some decorated soldier from that campaign who has written a book and is a hero in his nation.

 

[twinboysmom]

Why do you automatically have concern for the American serviceman?

Aren't we all equal?

Can you imagine an Iraqi writing a book about how many Americans they have killed?

Let me tell you why I automatically have concern for the American serviceman. These are my fellow Americans, my brothers and sisters who put their lives on the line for YOU and for me to keep us free, to keep the terrorists from killing innocent people, and to free others from terrible dictators. And yes, while they may not have written books there are certainly those who enjoy bragging about how many Americans they have killed.

Chris Kyle was a great American and a great soldier. We are deeply saddened by the death of this American hero.

 

[bunkkinsmom]

Why do you automatically have concern for the American serviceman?

Aren't we all equal?

Can you imagine an Iraqi writing a book about how many Americans they have killed?

I believe we are all created equal. I have concern for the American serviceman over someone who is trying to kill American servicemen because I am an American. American serviceman are fighting for MY COUNTRY, a country that many would like to see destroyed. Yes, I'm sure there are many people around the world who are happy about how many Americans they can kill.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jy_yN-tRT8

What's your point?

 

[KathyTX]

Kyle was a hero, and this an unspeakable tragedy.

We will NOT have this turn into any kind of gun control or political debate- those do not belong anywhere on he DIS.