Children and teens on the DIS

[DisneyPhD]

I wouldn't mind my niece (14 years old) being on the DIS, or the teen board. Infact I suggested it to her because with my interactions with many of the teen members on DIS I feel they are a really great group of teens and a good place to hang out.

I don't really push her coming here, becuase I like to keep it as my place and talk about her too much, I would get busted.

The only time I really had a problem was a while ago when there was a very long thread about "who used recreations drugs as a youth" and people where braging about it. I felt that it was very inaproprate because of the youth on this board and said so. (setting a bad example.) Other then that one thread I have never really come across anything I felt was inaproproprate. (I saw some smilies posted I personally didn't apreciate so much, but just kept moving.) It isn't like they were DIS smilies.

I don't really pay much mind to the G/L because I am not one. I would think most teens would feel the same way (unless they had some questions about it, and if they did to be honest DIS isn't the worst place they could be looking into that topic on the internent.) We have some lovley members here who are G or L.

I think a SAHM board would be great. Also a Working mom too. The thing is mothers often move between the 2 catagories, and what about part time? There is a familes board already after all.

 

[Wishing on a star]

Mal, Okay, so I type too fast, and don't use spell-check...

However, I think it always lame to use spelling as a defense???

My point still stands... The Mods have gone on record, here in this thread, regarding the gay issue, saying that any 'hate speech' will not be allowed.

Yet, I still see the 'hatefull ignorant bigot' posts... and the Bush Bashing, etc...

It is very clear indeed what is allowed and what is considered hate speech or namecalling.

 

[Tigger&Belle]

I'm jut curious why you don't need to worry about these things? How old are your kids? My kids are nice and sweet and I still worry about these things (DD is 14 and DS is 13).

My kids are 6, 12, 15, and 18 and I don't exactly worry, but I'm also not going to use the HITS (head in the sand) approach to parenting that some people use. I give my children little time to get into trouble, ie I supervise them well, and I pay attention to signs of things not adding up. I don't assume that they'll never get into trouble. And yes, mine are nice kids, too. So was I as a teen.

 

[hemispheredancer]

I cannot believe how off-topic this thread has gotten. Too bad the mods wouldn't lock this baby up so no more irrelevent, frivolous posts can be made. AMEN!!

 

[TnKrBeLlA012]

I'll be totally honest, in my mind, it does. I really apologize, because you sound very nice and sincere. I have to say in truth, though, that I wouldn't be able to consider anyone who holds the opinion that you do to be a good person - just like I wouldn't be able to consider anyone who found black people to be inferior to whites to be a good person - no matter how polite or well mannered they were about it or how many other wonderful qualities they had. "Good" is obviously one of those words that is completely subjective, though, isn't it?

Let me just say something on the word "good." My mom is probably the NICEST person in this lifetime anyone could meet. She has given to every charity there is. She has never refused help to anyone. She is probably the best person I know! I don't say this lightly. My sister and I tell her she is wayyyyyyyyyy to nice. Almost to the point she is stepped on. Here is the puzzling part. She also does not believe in the gay lifestyle. Can you imagine that. A good person who does all she does could be against something she felt was not right. I guess your thought process is correct. Her goodness is really a guise to promote intolerance of people who are different. All I can say about some posters on this board is. You know when people go to church. They are supposed to be kind because they are people of faith. Now as soon as the doors to the church open and everyone leaves. That is when the nasty people emerge. They drive off in their cars miserable. Probably swearing at their fellow church members as they fight to leave the parking lot first. That is what this board feels like to me. I will be nice when it fits MY agenda. Watch out when someone says something I don't agree with or like. I think alot more of the old saying,"practice what you preach" needs to be said. Let's try to be fair to both sides of a debate or subject.

 

[Wishing on a star]

I cannot believe how off-topic this thread has gotten. Too bad the mods wouldn't lock this baby up so no more irrelevent, frivolous posts can be made. AMEN!!

AMEN!!!!

Is it just me, or is the DIS boring the past couple days????

Anyhow, guaranteed, all you have to do is include the word gay or lesbian or homosexuality in a post, and it is -instant sidetrack-!!!

 

[Maleficent13]

Mal, Okay, so I type too fast, and don't use spell-check...

However, I think it always lame to use spelling as a defense???

I wasn't using it as a defense of anything; I was just pointing it out. Have a wonderful day.

 

[TnKrBeLlA012]

I'm jut curious why you don't need to worry about these things? How old are your kids? My kids are nice and sweet and I still worry about these things (DD is 14 and DS is 13).

My kids are 19 and 21. I again will say strongly they are the nicest most respectful kids I have seen. When an employer calls to tell you what nice kids you have I take that very personally. My oldest is in college for nursing. I feel that will be a blessing to the field. She is a person of deep compassion. I only make these remarks because I can't believe some of the posts I have read. I think people need to be a little more nice and less worried about popular opinion. We will all never agree on a subject. This has gotten way out of hand.

 

[Wishing on a star]

That is what this board feels like to me. I will be nice when it fits MY agenda. Watch out when someone says something I don't agree with or like. I think alot more of the old saying,"practice what you preach" needs to be said. Let's try to be fair to both sides of a debate or subject.

Well said,

The gay posters (and pro-gay) here are all for 'tolerance', yet on many threads, there have some some (notice I say 'some') gay posters who have been the most intolerant of all. It is a guaranteed immediate attack and namecalling of anyone who happens to feel/believe differently than themselves.

 

[GEM]

Wow - your post is really sitting wrong with me. You are going to call TnKrBeLlA012 a bad person for not agreeing with a certain lifestyle while you are on another thread basically calling a 19 year old a slut for moving in with her boyfriend. Love that logic!

Oh, no. I never said that at all! In fact, if you read my post on that other topic it specifically says that I have no problem AT ALL with them moving in together. I just think the idea of a shower is all kinds of ridiculous. You obviously didn't read my post on that other thread at all.

For the record, here is a quote of my post from that other thread you mentioned. Where on earth did you get the word slut?? You pretty much just made it up, because I certainly never used it or even thought it.

Are you kidding? Um, yeah. I'm pretty broad minded, but that's totally tacky. Don't get me wrong, I would have no problem at all with them moving in together before they're married - but a shower is just ridiculous beyond belief.

And yes, back to the topic at hand, to me, a person who finds fault with a person based strictly on their sexuality is no better than a racist and is not someone I would consider a "good" person. Would you defend a racist? What's the difference??

 

[Karel]

Let me just say something on the word "good." My mom is probably the NICEST person in this lifetime anyone could meet. She has given to every charity there is. She has never refused help to anyone. She is probably the best person I know! I don't say this lightly. My sister and I tell her she is wayyyyyyyyyy to nice. Almost to the point she is stepped on. Here is the puzzling part. She also does not believe in the gay lifestyle. .

Would she help a gay person who was in need? Would she donate to a gay charity? If a person she knew was gay knocked on her door, would she invite him in? If a teen came to her and said, I think I'm gay, would she be compassionate or have nothing to do with him?

That is when you are a good person.

 

[Karel]

I cannot believe how off-topic this thread has gotten. Too bad the mods wouldn't lock this baby up so no more irrelevent, frivolous posts can be made. AMEN!!

You're kidding, right?

God forbid we should have irrelevent and frivolous posts on the DIS.

 

[disney4us2002]

Oh, no. I never said that at all! In fact, if you read my post on that other topic it specifically says that I have no problem AT ALL with them moving in together. I just think the idea of a shower is all kinds of ridiculous. You obviously didn't read my post on that other thread at all.

For the record, here is a quote of my post from that other thread you mentioned. Where on earth did you get the word slut?? You pretty much just made it up, because I certainly never used it or even thought it.

You're quoting your first post. I'm guessing she meant your second post, #12.

 

[LindsayDunn228]

Oh, no. I never said that at all! In fact, if you read my post on that other topic it specifically says that I have no problem AT ALL with them moving in together. I just think the idea of a shower is all kinds of ridiculous. You obviously didn't read my post on that other thread at all.

For the record, here is a quote of my post from that other thread you mentioned. Where on earth did you get the word slut?? You pretty much just made it up, because I certainly never used it or even thought it.

GEM, I think this is the comment they are referring to:

Or, more likely, when they break up and she moves in with the next guy . . .

 

[GEM]

Ah, thanks. I still don't have any idea where they got the idea that I was calling her a slut?? I was just pointing out that moving in with someone doesn't always mean you'll be marrying them on down the line. Things happen. Lots of people don't go on to marry the first person they live with. I'll happily admit that I lived with two other guys before I married my husband - one in college and one just after I graduated.

 

[KathyTX]

She also does not believe in the gay lifestyle.

I've seen this kind of statement a number of times here... can you help me understand what is really meant by it?

If I say I don't believe in something, I mean that I don't think it exists. For instance, I don't believe in the Easter Bunny.

Does "She does not believe in the gay lifestyle" mean she doesn't believe it exists? Or that she condemns it or thinks it should be illegal? Or just that the idea of it makes her uncomfortable?

 

[GEM]

If I say I don't believe in something, I mean that I don't think it exists. For instance, I don't believe in the Easter Bunny.

Well, then, Kathy, I would have to say that, according to your definition - I don't believe in the "gay lifestyle" either! What I mean is, I don't think it exists. There is no such thing, I's just like the Eater Bunny!

Could one of the people on the DIS that gets so worked up about the "gay lifestyle" please let us all know exactly what the heck it is??

My cousin is a lesbian. She has been with her partner for over ten years. They are both in their late 30s. They have a nice house together, have comfortable jobs, are very active in lots of charities, have wonderful relationships with their families, etc. On any given weekend night, you're most likely to find them renting a movie and eating pizza while they fall asleep on the couch. Their lifestyle is pretty much exactly the same as the one that DH and I enjoy.

Our closest friend here in town is a single gay man in his 50s. He's had a few serious relationships over the years, but none that lasted. He spends his free time gardening, reading, playing the piano, etc. He has a dog that is the center of his universe. And, he loves taking my little boy to the zoo. He even took Paul to see his first movie last week. His lifestyle is pretty much exactly the same as that of my heterosexual single aunt who is around the same age.

I know quite a few college students on our campus who are gay. The one I know best loves to party, go to dance clubs, meet new people, etc. His lifestyle is pretty much just like that of most of the other college kids I know.

So, please, stop talkiing about the "gay lifestyle". There isn't any such thing. If you have a problem with gay people in general, just have the guts to say so. Their lifestyles are just like ours.

 

[TnKrBeLlA012]

Would she help a gay person who was in need? Would she donate to a gay charity? If a person she knew was gay knocked on her door, would she invite him in? If a teen came to her and said, I think I'm gay, would she be compassionate or have nothing to do with him?

That is when you are a good person.

Just to answer your questions. I will sum it up in one sentence. She would help ANYONE in need. Gay or not.

 

[Loves Disney]

I read about the first 4 pages of this thread and the last page. All I can say is this has become quite a debate. I think we should all remember that we are disney fans and that no matter what our opinions are, we all share the same good ol' pixie dust from our friend Tinkerbell. We should also keep in mind that everyone is going to have his/her opinions and most of the time, those opinions can't be changed so sometimes, we just have to accept that fact and let it go lol. There are many posts I agree with and disagree with but if I should react to one of the posts I disagree with, I would respect that person's opinion and simply state what I think without attacking the other person. I am not saying this thread should be shut down because I don't think it should. Expressing opinion is completely natural and for some people, necessary. I just want to remind everyone to stay "Mickey" friendly Sometimes words can hurt more than one would think

 

[TnKrBeLlA012]

I read about the first 4 pages of this thread and the last page. All I can say is this has become quite a debate. I think we should all remember that we are disney fans and that no matter what our opinions are, we all share the same good ol' pixie dust from our friend Tinkerbell. We should also keep in mind that everyone is going to have his/her opinions and most of the time, those opinions can't be changed so sometimes, we just have to accept that fact and let it go lol. There are many posts I agree with and disagree with but if I should react to one of the posts I disagree with, I would respect that person's opinion and simply state what I think without attacking the other person. I am not saying this thread should be shut down because I don't think it should. Expressing opinion is completely natural and for some people, necessary. I just want to remind everyone to stay "Mickey" friendly Sometimes words can hurt more than one would think

Thanks for summing up what seems to be a no win debate. I just hope people are as kind to others as they profess to be in these posts. I also hope people realize not everyone will be quick to change their way of thinking to appease others. For the record. You can like a person for who they are, even if you don't agree with their lifestyle. It can be done. My OB is a lesbian and my cousin is gay. Imagine that.