She didn't report it to Disney. She kvetched about it on the DIS. FTR, I have seen evil poolhoppers at my resort and as long as it's not busy it's not a big deal. When it is busy, the pools are policed more closely and they are asked to leave.
about them or you can accept the situation and enjoy your vacation. The one method that seems to work is a gated pool like Stormalong Bay. Magicbands make this easier as all "legal" pool users should have a valid and working MB on their wrist at the pool. The question you have to ask yourselves, as DVC owners and dues payers, is do you want to accept that there are pool hoppers and pay for the negligible cost of wear and tear and towel laundering or do you want to pay for a fence just to deny them access? No, it's not gated. And even if it is gated, that won't stop pool hoppers. The only way is to have a CM at the entrances scanning MB, which is only done at SAB....and they seem to do that all year round.
i was there in December too. I seem to recall needing a key to enter but I might be wrong.
IMO it is a black and white issue on the crasher's side in both areas, each with a clear answer IMO. However, on the observer's side there are many gradations and nuances. In this case there really isn't a lot that could be done and likely no one appropriate to report it to for that particular family. As such a note after return or just a judgement of the given adults are both in order. From a member response and decision standpoint the specifics of the situation and the comfort level of the individual must come into play. In this case the best recourse IMO would not be to ignore it and roll eyes but to find a way to bring it up with them if possible realizing it might or night not be possible depending on the specific situations, seating, etc. Are you staying at AKV (no)? Weren't you at the pool at AKV (yes)? Isn't use of the pool there restricted to those staying there (many possible answers)? Of course they might lie in that situation but that'd simply prove the point. That alone can and should be both appropriate and enough for most situations depending on the specific answers. Then if there were some reasonable explanation, it'd come out and if they truly weren't aware (unlikely else they probably would have parked there), that'd be evident as well. Then if they were truly crashing they might think twice next time if they were reasonable people and if they forged ahead, they would have announced their lack of character. I still disagree that this is either negligible or a victimless crime. It has a real effect on dues that additive to other costs and it has a real effect on potential use and enjoyment, likely the larger portion. At the end of the day it's really NO different than seeing someone shoplift. I do not feel the distinction of criminal vs rules has any affect on the principle for those that might bring this up.She didn't report it to Disney. She kvetched about it on the DIS. FTR, I have seen evil poolhoppers at my resort and as long as it's not busy it's not a big deal. When it is busy, the pools are policed more closely and they are asked to leave.
The fact is that there will always be pool hoppers. Some of them know they are wrong to use another resort's pool but a lot of them don't even realize they are doing anything wrong. You can either get all uptight
FWIW, isn't AKV's Kidani pool gated already? Perhaps the OP saw the evil pool hoppers at the Jambo pool. Gating that pool would completely ruin the feel of the area.
It was fenced but not monitored the last time we were there. Without being monitored, there really is no control. Obviously the various pools/management must weight the benefits against the costs and other downsides in any such issue.
what I was going to say.
Pool hoping is not a contractual item, simply a current perk that could be removed tomorrow. As noted, AKV and AKL are never part of the pool hopping program anyway. While it's theoretically possible that there was some legitimate reason for this issue, the chances of winning the power ball lottery are likely higher. Given the bus location for DD, if they had headed the way of SSR it should have been obvious, it sounded like they headed toward the parking lot.
It really doesn't matter if you can prove it in this situation IMO because it's really the principle and general problem in question and not this specific family. This incident is simply a marker to start the discussion That it happens and that it has real cost is absolute. Some people just can't or won't admit that people can be bad people and want to blame it on the system, government, upbringing, etc never requiring personal responsibility. It is interesting that the level of proof in such areas for some is often FAR higher than the level of proof required in the court system. I think we passed "beyond reasonable doubt" with your first post. I also suspect that many that attack rather than discuss in this type of situation have a guilty conscious for similar actions, not specific to any posters here but just a general observation over the years.
