Cheap question for Child's Ticket

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Jennyvelaz

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After going through all this ticket fiasco, I was going to purchase PAP for myself and two 3yr olds. (dh already has one). We will be going down to at least three times this year so the cost will pay off. My question is, am I too cheap to see if my kids can "get by" for another trip? How strict are they? My twins are small for there age and I also remember my mom saying I was twelve for the movies until I actually drove myself and claimed independency! (Ha!Ha! I must get this from her!) Our next trip will be in May so maybe I could by their tickets then? Anybody go through this?
 
If it were me, I would pay for them. I couldn't take the guilt.

This is a hot button issue. Prepare yourself for some heated responses.
 
I actually remember turning 3. I was so proud of myself, I drove my Aunt crazy running around all day telling her I was 3 (I probably remember because of her "Shutup Already"). Anyway, what if a CM asks them how old they are? Surely they'll proudly say "THREE!"
 
I purchased an AP for my DD when she turned 3. It's expensive, but what in WDW isn't?
 

WOW you are BRAVE!!!!!!!

The rules CLEARLY state 3 and OVER need a ticket...not if your child LOOKS under 3 then you can try and be sneaky and pretend they are two so you don't have to pay...UGH........please tell me this was a joke?????? :earseek: :earseek: :earseek: :earseek:

If you can't afford to go to Disney without stealing then don't go!!!! Wait until you save the money and can be honest.
 
Uh HUH....Flame time so be ready....My feelings are this....Why pay 40.00 dollars for a just turned 3 year old who cannot enjoy but a few things....So yes we took our kids into the park without paying till they were 4...Did I feel guilt no....cause I am already spending way too much money, resort, food overpriced, tickets, souveniers...etc....So yes we walked our kids into the park and were not questioned....Usually my wife had them in the stroller and they opened the gate for her....not once were we ever asked how old they were...So take that for what its worth....I know this is a hot topic like taking your kids out of school which we also do....I think if Disney was that concerned about they would enforce the issue alot more....How much are they really losing by a kid getting in free at that age....Its also they same as snack being brought in the rules say no food but its not enforced and lots of people bring in food....But be ready we are both about to get blasted....just go do what you know you can do and enjoy.... :D
 
dolphindan1 said:
My feelings are this....Why pay 40.00 dollars for a just turned 3 year old who cannot enjoy but a few things....So yes we took our kids into the park without paying till they were 4...Did I feel guilt no....cause I am already spending way too much money, resort, food overpriced, tickets, souveniers...etc....

Why pay for a ticket? Because those are the rules that Disney sets forth: all guests over the age of 3 need a ticket.

I personally don't care what you or the OP does when it comes to tickets for 3 year olds. I'm not the Morality Police. I won't call you a liar or a cheat or a thief, although I know for a fact that others will. I do think that your rationalization doesn't hold water. The fact is that things are expensive at WDW. Ticket media is one of the biggest expenses: ours cost over $1000 in December for only 3 people. If you can't budget for all the expenses, then perhaps you should wait until you can afford the vacation you want.
 
Yes I agree with you....It wasnt a fact of not affording cause they were 4 and 8 this year and I spent over 1000 dollars for our tickets....Its the fact that I think its still too too young to pay for a child who may or may not ride the rides or want anything to do with characters and get any of the "Magic" from Disney....The fact is we have gone the last 4 years and I have spent close to 4000.00 dollars each trip...So Disney is still getting paid....The fact is that this is not the only rule that is broken at Disney by me, you or anyone....Everyday it happens....Do I promote or endorse no.....but it happens.....You find a penny on the concrete do you go looking for the original owner, how about a 20 or a 100...So yes I did it and no I felt no guilt about it....I dont think Disney has any hard feelings towards it either or they would be alot stricter on it....I still go back to the no food rule have you ever brought food into the parks????...The rules say no food but they let people in everyday with food....that is potential money lost to them too....and if you are taking food into the parks you are breaking the rules....Do you feel guilty by doing this???...Oh I am not attacking you by no means so dont take anything I say personally...I am just announcing my side of the issue at hand....and the questions in my post are not reflected to one person they are asked in general....
 
My question is why would you ask this question? You are the only one who could possibly answer it. :) :rolleyes:
 
What are you going to do if you get stopped and won't be allowed entry because the CM asks the kids how old they are and they say 3? It's not like you are going to have a Park Hopper pass in your pocket that you can use right then. I've heard of people buying park hoppers for their kid, but only using it if they can't get away with telling them the kid is 3.

Plus if you are going to buy the APs in May, why not get it now? What good does it do for 1/2 the family to have an AP that expires in January 2006 and 1/2 have APs that expire in May 2006? It's not like the kids are going to be going to WDW without you. Since you are planning 3 trips, you will definitely get your money's worth.
 
I don't care about whether or not Disney gets their money. I do care whether or not my kids think it is okay to lie. If I expect them not to, I probably can't do it in front of them. So I wouldn't even think about taking my 3 year old in as a 2YO.

Your mileage may vary, though---do what you are comfortable with.

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dolphindan1: I could be mistaken, but as a publicly-held, for-profit company, I'm pretty sure that Disney cares very much whether or not three year olds get in for free. If I were a stockholder (and I am not) I would darn well expect them to care.

What good does it do for 1/2 the family to have an AP that expires in January 2006 and 1/2 have APs that expire in May 2006?

If you are going to keep buying them, it will allow you to spread out your renewal costs through the year, rather than be hit by the full renewal costs all at once.
 
Ok....granted....I dont want my kids to lie either....but a 2 or 3 year old is not gonna know if I bought them a ticket or not....I still go back again to bringing food into the park....If you bought food into the park and your child says I thought you couldnt bring food into the parks are you gonna throw it away or go back to your vehicle....What then?...Is it not the same pricipal?....I know alot of us bring food into the parks alot more I am sure than are sneaking there kids in...So does the fact that the majority is doing it make it ok?...The fact that its not on a grander scale make it right?....
 
My parents had me lie about my age when I was three to ride a train to Florida for free. I still remember and it still makes me uncomfortable. I will buy my three year old a ticket.

We have been 4 times since 1999 -- and we have always had one or more *free* kids with us.
1999 - DD 18 months (free!)
2000 - DD 2 1/2 and DD 8 months (2 freebies!)
2002 - DD 4, DD 2, DS 10 months (2 freebies, again!)
2004 - DD 6, DD 4, DS 2 and 3/4! (1 freebie)
Nov 2005 - no freebies anymore for us....

Three and over we buy tickets (period). We respect the rules - it's pretty black and white to us. Even though this is irrelevant -- our under threes have gotten PLENTY out of their experiences (regardless of their ages and the fact that they weren't *quite* tall enough for some of the rides!)

It would be great if Disney had a Pay What You Wish day - like some *non-profit* museums, but since they don't, we pay the posted prices for the posted ages. Pretty simple. ;)

Rationalizations seem silly to me. Would you think you should be able to go to the Grand Floridian and pay All Star prices because you spend a lot of money at Disney World or have been there many times and spent lots there over the course of the years? Or because you wouldn't get that much out of the resort experience since you weren't going to be in the room much anyway? Would you stay there and pay a different rate if there was no way anybody would know you didn't pay the full amount or if they weren't going to ask...? I don't know, it all seems silly to me. When we go, we pay the price -- and we have a great time! (All if favor of capitalism, say aye...)
 
dolphindan1 said:
I still go back again to bringing food into the park....If you bought food into the park and your child says I thought you couldnt bring food into the parks are you gonna throw it away or go back to your vehicle....What then?...Is it not the same pricipal?
No, not really. Disney has always allowed people to bring outside food into the parks, in reasonable amounts. A few granola bars and juice boxes for the kids, snacks for the grown-ups or a small cooler of food for a diabetic grandmother has never been an issue. Bringing in a rolling cooler of sandwiches, soup and sodas and then setting up your meal at the tables outside of Casey's is what they're guarding against. The overall notion being, of course, that they would prefer you to purchase food on property. Not only do they get the revenue, but they know what's IN the food. If someone gets sick after eating at WDW, Disney would actually prefer it be on Disney food, since that's trackable, than on some spoiled macaroni salad brought in from the outside. Much of it is a health issue. Also ... Disney Security checks every bag going into the park. They see the food coming in and let it go unless it's obvious that the family is planning a major feast, in which case the food will be returned to the car before that family enters.

When you're talking admission, that's a totally different thing. That is simply what it costs to go to WDW. To say that your child can't appreciate what's there enough to make it worth your while to pay for him or her is just a justification for cheating. If they can't appreciate what's there enough to make it worth your while, then why are you taking them? You're equating worth with how many rides or characters your child will see or enjoy. Obviously, you have other reasons for bringing your child to WDW that have nothing to do with that, and THAT is what you are paying for. It costs Disney a lot of money to create all that atmosphere and magic that you're bringing your child to see. And by the 3-year-old mark, kids are cognizant enough to get enough out of it to warrant paying the price. Plus, if you stopped at the gate and asked the CM there if your 3-year-old can get into the park for free even though he should be buying a ticket, they'll say "no" and send you to the ticket window. That's a difference too.

Look at it this way ... let's take a family who has a 15-year-old child in a wheelchair. Parapalegic and autistic. Child cannot ride any rides or see any shows due to mobility and darkness issues. Child has the cognitive abilities of a 2-year-old. Those folks are bringing their child to WDW because the child reacts to what is there ... they enjoy the sounds and the colors and the atmosphere. They're not riding rides, seeing shows, or participating in all that WDW has to offer, but those parents are paying full price for their child to be there.

Or ... what about the family with the 5-year-old who is tall enough and old enough to ride everything, but he doesn't want to. He's a little scared of the characters too. But ... he sits with his parents and watches all the shows. He loves the parades. Thinks fireworks are great. He laughs at all the silliness of the Characters, just doesn't want to get up close and personal. He's not participating in all the WDW has to offer, but those parents are paying for him to be there at the child price.

Based on those two examples, what makes you so special that you should you get a freebie?

:earsboy:
 
My 2 cents worth......... as if anyone cares, I think that 3 years old is too young to start paying! They simply are not able to do everything. Perhaps 4 or 5 would be better. WITH that said, the rule at disney is that it is age 3 - period. SO, if your child is 3, then PAY for them. I agree that lying is stealing..... yada yada. YOU have to decide what your morals and values are, and what you teach your children. To each his own. I am in no way the "morality police " either. When we go, we pay, but that's just us.

As far as the "bringing food in" PLEASE, you've got to be kidding.......... that is how you justify not paying for your child.............. that is ridiculous! I guess you are the one who's bringing in the food as well......... Look, don't take this as an attack...... I personally don't care what you choose to do, like I said to each his own.
I just wouldn't ever do it, and I wouldn't try to justify one wrong to validate it.
 
what would you say about me claiming my DS is older than he is so he could do something. He wants to do skiing but he is not 4 yet (3 weeks away) and the minimum age is 4 for ski school. How would you react to that?

(Oh and I will pay for my child over 3, My DS will turn 2 a few days before we get there and I'm sure I will have to have some sort of proof cuz even now he is very tall (30 inches last month) for his age. My 3 yr old is often mistaken for a 5 yr old)
 
all valid points....Its nice to have a discussion without bashing people....As far a rationalizations go...you have to rationalize to discuss issues.....I know I am frowned upon by what I did but like I said I have no guilt by it....You can say I have no morals....fine....I can handle that...but if the only rule I broke or that is the only morality issue I have then fine I am comfortable with that....I dont cuss...well not too much, I dont smoke, drink, own a gun, my sons are first priority along with my wife, right there with my devotion to God and his son....I have never been arrested, only been in one fist fight in school....So I think I can live with myself by saving over the course of 6 or 7 trips to Disney world 80.00 bucks.......which I then used right back inside the park....SO thanks for no name calling and all that stuff....thats one thing I really like about these boards no matter what is said we still help each other....
 
cra-z-4-dizney said:
WOW you are BRAVE!!!!!!!

The rules CLEARLY state 3 and OVER need a ticket...not if your child LOOKS under 3 then you can try and be sneaky and pretend they are two so you don't have to pay...UGH........please tell me this was a joke?????? :earseek: :earseek: :earseek: :earseek:

If you can't afford to go to Disney without stealing then don't go!!!! Wait until you save the money and can be honest.

I thought by the amount of budgeting done on these boards that someone had a cheap way for two 3 year olds. Shame on those so judgemental! The coupon sharing and code sharing by those I am grateful for, not accusing them of thievery! No one mentioned sneakery!
Bitter shame to all those who put the extra person in the hotel rooms-Those criminals! are they banned,too?
 
Wait we cant prove one wrong to justify another...I think one of the posters said that....My point is all of us or at least the majority has broken a rule or rules while at Disney or anywhere else for tht matter....I used the food issue cause that was the first one I thought of but the hotel issue was good too...Coupon sharing, giving extra days on your ticket to a friens or relative....its all the same anyway you look at it...The average American is looking for a cheaper alternative no matter what it is.....I dont think it makes them a bad person or a liar or a cheat.....
 
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