Changes to Pooh

It is not Christopher Robin who says to Pooh (or it maybe the other way around) "Promise you'll never forget me" and the response is "Not even when I'm 100". Well I see that time is moving faster than what we want. I'm sorry but I'm a DM of both a boy and a girl. They are older now but they classics are what they grew up on. And I agree with everything being too much for little girls. What about the boys.

Christopher Robin is the reason behind the books. Keep him where he belongs...in the story...not off someplace else.
 
Well, I agree with so many of you...

1. No ditching Christopher Robin! I think it is nice to have a male character that is a little more gentle and more imaginative than some of the other male characters.

2. As the mom of a DS 1 1/2 it just occurred to me reading this thread that there are so many female centric character events/interactions. Where are the Woody/Buzz/Sully meals? DH already wants to cancel himself and DS from CRT (I won't stand for it!)

3. On the Dora/Diego issue - I think he was introduced just as a way to spin off a new show. Go Diego Go is skewed a little older than Dora.

4. On the fixing things that aren't broken trend - my pet peeve is taking all the characters I love and making them babies! I don't like Baby Mickey and Minnie or Baby Looney Tunes or the Babies on Dora for that matter.

Change is BAD! :)
Just my $.02
 
Haven't read all posts (or the USA Today), but if this is right, it is ridiculous!

I'm extremely disappointed in Disney.

There is nothing wrong with having a story about a little boy and his made-up characters. They don't need to make him a girl. They don't need to add a girl.

For crying out loud, what are they thinking?!
 
Every day, in so many subtle ways, society is sending the message that men (at least masculine men) are not necessary -or at least not of any value without the input and guidance of a woman. Boys get this message in their curriculum at school, when they turn on the TV, when they read certain comics. Now, apparently, they will get it at the Magic Kingdom. Call me a kook if you will (I have my flame suit ready), but society will regret teaching men not to be men anymore. Don't we all already know (or know of) at least one man-child who is incapable of acheiving anything greater than playing video games 12 hours a day?

As for the specific issue at hand, how long will Disney alienate boys? When my little guy says he'd rather go to Universal, how can I argue with him?
 

I problary take alot of heat for this but, I really don't see this as the end of the world, when you think of Winnie the Pooh, I don't think of Christopher Robin, as long as they leave Winnie, Tigger, Eeyore alone I be just fine :teeth:
 
I totaly agree with the character meals. There are enough prominent male characters (Peter Pan, Tarzan, Buzz & Woody, Mike & Sully, The Beast, Aladin & The Genie, Hercules, and more that I'm sure I can't think of). I know they used to have a villans meal, well bring it back there are more then enough (Jafar, Captain Hook & Mr Smee, The Queen of Hearts, The Evil Queen, Malificent, Hades and many more). Don't get me wrong...it's great that they have the Princess meals for little girls (and those who become little girls again at WDW), but what about those of us that are not girly girls. But I think that we have gotten a little off topic here because I really don't feel that this change with Winnie the Pooh has as much to do with boys vs. girls as it does the all mighty dollar. It's sad that Disney feels the need to make changes to make more money when they've already said that they make more money off Pooh merchandise then all their other characters combined. A bit greedy are we??
 
Zippa D Doodah said:
Every day, in so many subtle ways, society is sending the message that men (at least masculine men) are not necessary -or at least not of any value without the input and guidance of a woman. Boys get this message in their curriculum at school, when they turn on the TV, when they read certain comics. Now, apparently, they will get it at the Magic Kingdom. Call me a kook if you will (I have my flame suit ready), but society will regret teaching men not to be men anymore. Don't we all already know (or know of) at least one man-child who is incapable of acheiving anything greater than playing video games 12 hours a day?

As for the specific issue at hand, how long will Disney alienate boys? When my little guy says he'd rather go to Universal, how can I argue with him?

It seems to me the media has always, and probably will always, cater to stereotypes. I think Disney has gone way overboard on the Princess stuff. But I also don't think that's doing my daughter any favors. The over sexualized presentation of female characters whether through Disney or elsewhere is a terrible image for a little girl (BRATZ dolls, Pocohantas was 13 did she really have those curves...and the cleavage shots in Alladin, don't even get me started). I try not to be oversensitive to it (although I hate BRATZ) as my daughter (5) does enjoy Disney and others. I try to provide my daughter with alternate images and if I think soemthing is really blatant I'll talk to her directly about it.

I agree there's not enough positive portayal of boys in the media. As for "masculine," unfortunately the media often equate that with dominance or violence.

We cannot rely on popular media to provide for our children good models. This is unfortunate, but also true.
 
jackskellingtonsgirl said:
I think it is a HORRIBLE idea, but I also think Disney is the absolute leader in fixing things that are not broken! :guilty:


^^^amen to that!
 
I was a little girl who love (and still does) pooh! It was such a nice alternative to the rest of the movies. No dead parents, evil villains, etc... Just nice cute stories with loveable characters. I guess they're trying to be PC, I don't know. it all depends on how they use the character. For example, it'd be kind of cool if they used this new female character to be CR's new friend or whatever, and actually bring the two of them more into the stories. As far as memories go, I doubt disney is going to redo all of the old Pooh movies, books etc... There's not nearly as much money in that. My guess would be that they are going to make new movies with this new character. So your memories will still be there.
 
I absolutely refuse to have anything to do with a Christopher Robin replacement. I will not purchase any of the merchandise or watch any of the shows. Hopefully it will cause enough of an uproar to make them change their minds about this.
 
No one in my family is a Pooh fan, so I can't say we would be buying or watching any less Pooh material than we do now. I guess this rumored change has just ticked me off because it seems so unnecessary.

I was silently disappointed when Cinderellabration replaced CSC this past May. CSC seemed to have so much more to offer to the whole family than does Cinderellabration. In that move boys were disregarded; the same seems to apply here. Since decisions are so much about marketing (that, I understand) it would seem that WDW will be "Princess and Fairy World" a few years from now. Very sad indeed.

FWIW, I will be writing to WDW to express my disappointment with the proposed change.
 
I don't think CR should be replaced (don't think it will happen) but I see no problem w/adding a character here and there.

Walt Disney made changes to the original Pooh story- he added the Gopher character who actually says in the first movie "I'm not in the book!"

And what about Lumpy? I think he's an adorable new character.

I think the Pooh craze has kind of died down and Disney is trying to add some excitement to it- that's all.

Here's a picture of me when I was little with my Pooh (I think I had been crying) :teeth:
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I read a very interesting article about A.E. Milne, the author of the Winnie the Pooh books, and why he created Winnie the Pooh. He would roll over in his grave! He had a son named Christopher Robin Milne who had stuffed animals. A.E. Milne wrote stories about Christopher Robin and his stuffed animals' adventures. These stuffed animals became the beloved characters. Unfortunately, Tigger, my favorite character, was not one of the original characters in the 100 Acre Woods and he was in the second story. Winnie the Pooh was named after one of Christopher Robin's favorite black bears named Winnie. The personality of Tigger was based on a friend's dog named Chum. It is just wrong to change Christopher Robin to a girl since the character of Christopher Robin is based on the author's son. That is just wrong!
 
SheriN said:
But there is a difference if I"m reading your message correctly. With Huey, Duey and Louey, they didn't Remove Donald, they ADDED H,D,L and made them cousins. From the US Today article it sounds as if they are switching a girl for Christopher Robin. Removing, Not adding. Which is a HUGE Difference.

Which I think is wrong, and if I get the chance while we're at WDW I will make my disgust known on this.

I have 4 boys and 1 girl. She's got more then enough "girly" movies to watch, and loves Pooh just as he is and doesn't feel there needs to be more girls in Pooh. Leave it alone I say.

And if they *must* add a girl make her Christopher Robins baby sister who is making up stories with Pooh.

::yes::
 
TiggerDaisy said:
I read a very interesting article about A.E. Milne, the author of the Winnie the Pooh books, and why he created Winnie the Pooh. He would roll over in his grave!

I seriously doubt that. Go back to post #59.
 
It reminds me of "bizarro Jerry" from Seinfeld.

Maybe this will all turn out to be just a bad dream (read: bad idea).
 
I was reading the online version of The Times (UK paper) timesonline.co.uk
Thought you might like this quote from the article about the changes to Pooh. It's along the lines of what some other posters have mentioned.

A world away in Totnes, Devon, Lesley Milne, widow of A.A. Milne’s son Christopher Robin, the inspiration behind the stories, gave a short verdict.
“He hated the character Christopher Robin and Winnie the Pooh and Disney,” she said. “He detested the whole set- up so much that I don’t think he would have minded the loss.”

Perhaps that's why Disney has no qualms about the loss of CR. Poor CR seems to appear less and less in the new films and cartoons as it is. Probably been trying to phase him out for ages! I've always loved the books, and the films are okay, but the series "The New Adventures of Winnie The Pooh" is just utterly bizarre. I think the minute someone green lighted that at Disney the death knell for Pooh as I knew and loved it was rung.
 












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