Chalmette Battlefield and cemetary

[profdsny]

Has any one seen or heard about what has happened to this battlefield? This is where the famous (well, not so famous apparently , as people a mile from it had no idea what or where is was) Battle of New Orleans was fought in 1815. I was there last week. I wonder if any of it survived. I haven't been able to find out anything.

 

[profdsny]

Bump. I can't believe not one has even read this post. I guess the people a mile away weren't that much out of the loop. It's a military veterans' cemetary, for God's sake!

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I have seen a satellite image of chalmette--it is under serious water.

I wouldn't doubt if the field is under. My mom I think had heard that it was.

I will see if I can find something for you.

(it is rather late at night btw--no need to freak out that your post hadn't been answered when it was just posted 20 minutes ago)

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

what parish is it in? I am not remembering right now.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

http://www.digitalglobe.com/images/katrina/new_orleans_chalmette_aug31_2005_dg.jpg

way to big to post the pic here. So click on the link....the best satellite image has a partial pic of Chalmette historical park. IT looks to be partially under water with some green space exposed.

So it is flooded

 

[Free4Life11]

Whoa HUGE image! Where did you find it Lisa?

 

[lulu71]

Lisa, it's actually just out of the picture on the bottom left on the river. It's St. bernard parish, BTW.

 

[profdsny]

Thanks for the info. I appreciate the response, and the help.
Joe

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Whoa HUGE image! Where did you find it Lisa?

Yeah--had to take it out....

This is where I got the images--they have them for several areas.
http://www.digitalglobe.com/images/katrina/

For those more familiar with the geography...there is this site:
http://ngs.woc.noaa.gov/katrina/KATRINA0000.HTM

but I think you have to know what you are looking for.



Lulu--according to a map link that someone shared--the green space covered in water was part of the very edge of the grounds. My apologies if I got it wrong.

I think it is safe to assume that with the tremendous flooding of St. Bernared...I don't think the grounds were spared.

profdsny--I was unable to find anything else.

You can ask on the St. Bernard Parish forum at WWL. Someone might know something. I searched photos and couldn't find anything.

http://www.wwltv.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=34

People will only respond if they know something--so if you have no responses, it means noone knows. LOTS of people looking for family--so you might need to check a couple of times a day--and bump your post a time or two.

 

[lulu71]

Lulu--according to a map link that someone shared--the green space covered in water was part of the very edge of the grounds. My apologies if I got it wrong.

My dad and I were looking at that map and at first we thought that green space was it and then he ID's as something else, so I dunno. I thought it was the edge myself. My dad says there is the monument that sticks up but we can't see it in the picture.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

My dad and I were looking at that map and at first we thought that green space was it and then he ID's as something else, so I dunno. I thought it was the edge myself. My dad says there is the monument that sticks up but we can't see it in the picture.

Okay--I counted streets...you are right...it is JUST out of the picture..

the pic goes up to Chalmette Avenue....so that grassy watery area...is actually the space to the right of the park---that has the blue rectangle which I guess is a body of water. That explains the one part--where it is green space and then water--but that water is a pre-existing body, right?

Sorry OP--I almost had you there.

 

[Planogirl]

Here's the monument...

You would think that it would be easy to spot on one of those maps.

Of course there's the old Beauregard House and I shudder to think of what state it's in.

ETA: Is the battleground not on the map then? I'll leave the picture anyway. Cool structure, I hope that it survived.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Here's the monument...


You would think that it would be easy to spot on one of those maps.

Of course there's the old Beauregard House and I shudder to think of what state it's in.

ETA: Is the battleground not on the map then? I'll leave the picture anyway. Cool structure, I hope that it survived.

They don't have a satellite image that includes it. That's the problem. I looked up the map and had to count streets to figure it out. The green space that I thought was part of the battlefield--turned out to be space adjacent to the battlefield.

They were more focused on homes--which is what the residents want to see--so that they an figure out what happened to their home.

 

[Planogirl]

I found this article that mentions the battlefield:

Park Service Team Set to Rescue Years of ArtifactsPark Service Team Set to Rescue Years of Artifacts

By Petula Dvorak
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, September 1, 2005; Page A19

Their bags are packed with safety glasses, gloves, masks, boots and suits. As soon as they hit the ground in New Orleans, they plan to set up triage tents and long tables.

Then the emergency team from the National Park Service will begin its work: blotting, washing, drying, straightening and preserving centuries of historical artifacts that tell the story of one of the oldest U.S. cities.

The curators, archaeologists and historians of the Park Service's Museum Resource Center are not the bookish types who dwell in dusty stacks.

These are people who are trained in outdoor survival skills, are immunized against disaster area diseases, have helicoptered in and out of work sites and know how to identify poisonous snakes and spiders, said Pam West, director of the center.

Their biggest enemy is mildew.

"When we do retrieved artifacts, we're dealing in extreme mold," West said. "Anytime 48 hours pass, you get mold. You have to fight mold. We've seen it turn the most amazing colors -- bubble-gum pink once."

The preservationists dried and blotted a million artifacts from colonial Jamestown in Virginia after Hurricane Isabel hit in 2003. Last year, they used boats to get to 300,000 artifacts in the Fort Pickens museum near Pensacola, Fla., after Hurricane Ivan.

Once it gets the all-clear in the coming days, the preservation team will head to the Crescent City to retrieve documents, photographs, furniture and other pieces of history that have marked the rich life of a city founded in 1718 and occupied by the French, Spanish, Creoles, Americans, Confederates, fire, disease and water -- again and again.

There are photographs and musical instruments in the Park Service's jazz museum, musical scores in Louis Armstrong's home, archives at the Jean Lafitte National Historical Park and Preserve museum and the Chalmette Battlefield and National Cemetery, all floating in swampy, oily, polluted water.

Once the artifacts are pulled from the water, Park Service specialists can begin the work: laying out, sorting, stretching, drying. "Papers can be freeze-dried. Photos, furniture and furnishings can be washed and dried," West said.

Sometimes, they can clean objects and transport them for restoration at a better facility. But as is often the case in hurricane situations -- where humans, let alone objects can't get transportation, refrigeration or water -- curators have to work in less-than-ideal conditions. "I saw someone preserve a 20-by-20 photo right there on the spot once. They knew how to dry and blot and straighten it right there, in the middle of camp," West said.

The team also plans to work with universities and the residents of New Orleans, helping restore hundreds of years of memories.

It sounds like they have quite a job ahead of them.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

More comprehensive with report--it includes Chalmette when your scroll down and see the flood boundary. Look south of the phrase "Boundary line shows extent of flooding" and you will see the battlefield--it is submerged.



http://www.digitalglobe.com/images/katrina/Hurricane_Katrina-New_Orleans.pdf