CFW at 7 months

[eticketplease]

That's what I was suggesting. Direct point accumulation past certain levels gives incremental booking advantage. It's all a pipe dream anyway - DVC won't do that, not matter how much I post about it.

Yup I totally understood your previous statements.

It does make sense for Disney to incentivize buying direct that way in the future but then as @Patmcpsu pointed out there would be even more classes/levels of DVC than there are now with DVC-BY, DVC-Y and DVC-N.

Since DVC-BY is not a status per membership but per person perhaps they could grant it for all on the membership after reaching a set amount of direct points or something smaller that doesn't really affect others as much.

 

[eticketplease]

They had to change it because resale owners at RiV, VDH, and CFW don’t have access to trades.

Please remind me can these owners trade in to II or are they completely stuck at the resorts they purchased?

 

[Mouseforward]

Please remind me can these owners trade in to II or are they completely stuck at the resorts they purchased?

I wouldn’t call it stuck - but they have to stay at the resort they purchased.

OK I guess stuck is a good term because if you don’t book at 11 months, you may be stuck.

 

[disneylandtour]

Each resort can have their own rules and it’s a function of the DVC membership and DVC resort agreement.

We tend to think of things as one big pool of resorts when it comes to trades, but it’s not.

First, home resorts period snd booking rules for that can never be different based on how you acquired points.

FL timeshare law prevents that. So, no matter how you got your points, you get the same rules.

When it comes to trades, the DVC resort agreements say it opens when the home resorts period ends.

The reason that there is a restriction for RIV and beyond is because of the way those new resorts entered into BVTC per their DVC Resort Agreeement.

They entered with the rules that the only points eligible for trading in are direct and resale purchased prior to 2019, in exchange for their resale points not to be eligible for trades.

Once that happened, the fee paid to BVTC changed for those resorts. The O14 all pay a $1 per member to trade where as the restricted resorts pay a set fee, $25K

They had to change it because resale owners at RiV, VDH, and CFW don’t have access to trades.

I think in order for DVC to implement a change that gives direct points advantage to trade over resale points in BVTC, each resorts DVC Resort agreement would need to be changed.

I also agree that I can not see them making different home resort periods except when we get closer to the 2042 resorts and then I can see them extending it for those particular ones.

Thanks, Sandi. This was helpful. It explained some of the inner-workings to me!

 

[Sandisw]

Please remind me can these owners trade in to II or are they completely stuck at the resorts they purchased?

They can trade to II because that is a different exchange program.

It’s using BVTC that is restricted.

 

[eticketplease]

They can trade to II because that is a different exchange program.

It’s using BVTC that is restricted.

Thanks that is what I thought but my memory is not what it used to be lol

 

[muppets3d]

Well that goes back to the point about buying straight from Disney that the commercial renters are not doing and woud not be grandfathered in…

Which gets back to my point that it's a dumb idea with no redeeming qualities whatsoever. Disney is already very good at separating their guests from their dollars, they don't need help from the peanut gallery.

 

[eticketplease]

Which gets back to my point that it's a dumb idea with no redeeming qualities whatsoever. Disney is already very good at separating their guests from their dollars, they don't need help from the peanut gallery.

Regardless if it’s a dumb idea or not is not what I responded to.

I responded to your comment that this would be beneficial for the commercial renters by pointing out my opinion that the commercial renters were not buying there points from Disney.

You seemed to agree with statement when you said “No”

No but I'm sure many of them are grandfathered in so does it really matter?

In other words commercial renters are not helped by this proposal by @DonkeyHoTay

It certainly wouldn’t benefit me as I don’t see myself with that level of points but it might benefit someone who does.

 

[Mikey15]

AoA more than WL.!? Crazy.

Little Mermaid Standard Rooms do exist at AoA, but that’s definitely Family Suite pricing. I wish family suites were an option at more Disney resorts / DVC!

CFW master + bunk beds + Murphy + kitchen + 1 bath is a unique category itself.
AoA suites are master + pullout + Murphy + 2 full baths.
They’re not huge, but the 3 sleeping surfaces + 2 baths is something like an AKV value 1Bed:






We did 4 people. One couple and two singles. Singles didn’t have to share a bed. And there were two people per bathroom. Worked great!

 

[Mouseforward]

I wish family suites were an option at more Disney resorts / DVC!

They would clean up with a low point cost option like that.

 

[muppets3d]

Regardless if it’s a dumb idea or not is not what I responded to.

I responded to your comment that this would be beneficial for the commercial renters by pointing out my opinion that the commercial renters were not buying there points from Disney.

You seemed to agree with statement when you said “No”


In other words commercial renters are not helped by this proposal by @DonkeyHoTay

It certainly wouldn’t benefit me as I don’t see myself with that level of points but it might benefit someone who does.

It depends on how the dumb idea is set up. If you have to own a certain number of unrestricted points at a particular resort, then it might benefit them if Disney somehow goes back and makes it effective at the current resorts. But only effective for whatever is next, then no it wouldn't benefit them because like you said they're not buying new points.