Cecil the Lion

[Goofy_Disney_Dad]

I'm sure it's completely innocent as usual too.

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

Then maybe bringing it back up here is not really a good idea.

Oh I would agree with you there. But I don't think we could convince those that are continually bringing it up of that.

 

[gwynne]

Oh I would agree with you there. But I don't think we could convince them of that.

I think a friendly, perky onion has great convincing skills!
(And if I misread your avi pic I apologize in advance....)

 

[Kimberlyann11]

OK, some here don't get quickly get allegory,

It seems like a good few here don't get hyperbole and exaggeration to make a point. People are full of bloodlust because most people have an innate sense of justice and they know nothing is going to happen to this guy. Zimbabwe isn't going to do anything. They get a huge amount of money from these cretins and they wouldn't want to jeopardize it. In a year or so he'll have another practice and a large clientele of he-men hunters who want to support their guy. He can poke their gums for big bucks and high-five the hygenist every time he draws blood. The fantasy revenge you see here is venting. Nobody is going to lynch the guy. It is therapeutic and it will die down sooner than you think.

Look at that other piece of human garbage, Michael Vick. People treat him like he's some kind of god. The human race has the memory of a gnat.

So - here's where you can all finger-wag and tsk-tsk and clutch your pearls: I could never in my life do anything to hurt that man. I am non-violent and just plain don't have it in me. But if I saw him walk in front of a bus - I can't guarantee that I'd say "Hey, look out". So ... sit on your high horse and judge.

 

[Planogirl]

I see that some are trying to derail this thread. Is this some kind of agenda against people talking about a lion being killed or trying to use his death to make a political statement or (likely) both?

 

[Planogirl]

It seems like a good few here don't get hyperbole and exaggeration to make a point. People are full of bloodlust because most people have an innate sense of justice and they know nothing is going to happen to this guy. Zimbabwe isn't going to do anything. They get a huge amount of money from these cretins and they wouldn't want to jeopardize it. In a year or so he'll have another practice and a large clientele of he-men hunters who want to support their guy. He can poke their gums for big bucks and high-five the hygenist every time he draws blood. The fantasy revenge you see here is venting. Nobody is going to lynch the guy. It is therapeutic and it will die down sooner than you think.

Look at that other piece of human garbage, Michael Vick. People treat him like he's some kind of god. The human race has the memory of a gnat.

So - here's where you can all finger-wag and tsk-tsk and clutch your pearls: I could never in my life do anything to hurt that man. I am non-violent and just plain don't have it in me. But if I saw him walk in front of a bus - I can't guarantee that I'd say "Hey, look out". So ... sit on your high horse and judge.

One story mentioned that this lion was a big tourist draw for those who go there to take safaris. Maybe that will help because that is about money too. But I doubt it. Sadly I think that you're right.

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

I think a friendly, perky onion has great convincing skills!
(And if I misread your avi pic I apologize in advance....)[/QUOTE

It is an onion. The Tag Fairy gave it to me fairly soon after the changeover to the new format.

 

[Kimberlyann11]

I see that some are trying to derail this thread. Is this some kind of agenda against people talking about a lion being killed or trying to use his death to make a political statement or (likely) both?

They're trying to get it closed because heaven forbid somebody "Put animals before people ... ohmigerd!!"

 

[Planogirl]

They're trying to get it closed because heaven forbid somebody "Put animals before people ... ohmigerd!!"

That is silly on their part because for one, the two topics have nothing to do with one another and second, it's none of their business.

 

[Goofy_Disney_Dad]

We've gone from a twisty turn to a figure eight. This won't end well.

 

[mnrose]

We've gone from a twisty turn to a figure eight. This won't end well.

LOL. I love your posts.

 

[Goofy_Disney_Dad]

LOL. I love your posts.

Thanks very much. I really am just trying to have some fun.

 

[dinolounger]

The longer he stays relevant to the news media, the longer his dental practice will suffer. He will probably have enough supporters to eek out a living with his practice, but the days of an uber rich practice where he has an extra $50,000+ for illegal "sport" are probably long over.

Oh, please. His relevance is already dying because of news media 101: give the audience information they don't already have. This is one of the reasons CNN is in trouble, by virtue of calling everything "breaking news" even if the headline has been the same for the last week. Yeah, PETA mad a last gasp, hail Mary move to try and keep this story visible by announcing they want Palmer executed. The only outlet I saw carrying that was AOL.

The Cecil saga is a classic example of a story that has short legs and will fade quickly, since there are really no new angles coming up. The lion is still dead. Palmer's whereabouts are still unknown. Neither Zimbabwe or any governmental entity in the U.S. has announced any plans to indict or prosecute Palmer. The blogosphere/Twittersphere has already run through its 24 hour cycle and storylines based on massive outpourings of anti-Palmer vitriol are already drying up (no surprise, reading tweets full of vulgarity gets tired pretty darn fast).

So just as was observed by another poster early in this thread, this "scandal" is right on schedule to be off the mainstream radar within a week of the story breaking. And this thread will dry up at about the same time.

UPDATE: Zimbabwe announced it wants Palmer extradited. Problem is, that doesn't mean anything. They have to:

• File a formal extradition request with the State Department.
• The latter has to then review the request to confirm it meets with the terms of our extradition agreement with Zimbabwe. If it doesn't , they turn it down. If it does, they then have to hand the request off to a Federal Judge.
• The Judge then puts out a warrant for Palmer.
• Once Palmer is custody, the Judge has to hold a hearing where legal counsel for Palmer can present arguments against the request.
• The Judge then rules on whether to approve or deny the request.
• If the court rules against Palmer, he can file an appeal.

This process can take years.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

Well, even so, many of us won't forget Cecil. May he RIP.

As for the dentist - I don't wish him any harm, but it is beyond my comprehension to understand what pleasure could be had from destroying a majestic animal like that for no reason other than to hang his head on your wall. I would want to throw up every time I walked by it. Literally.

 

[Gumbo4x4]

We've gone from a twisty turn to a figure eight. This won't end well.

Trains aren't meant to make such maneuvers without wrecking

 

[Soldier's*Sweeties]

Trains aren't meant to make such maneuvers without wrecking

I think we're going a little off track.

 

[TLSnell1981]

I think we're going a little off track.

Pretty much the norm for a DIScussion

 

[Planogirl]

I think we're going a little off track.

It's just a chance for some to blow off a little steam.

 

[Goofy_Disney_Dad]

I think it's important that we remember our station and conduct ourselves accordingly.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

National Geographic weighs in

http://voices.nationalgeographic.co...t-loved-lion-ignites-debate-on-sport-hunting/

"Cecil was wearing a GPS-collar installed by a team of researchers in Hwange National Park. The researchers have been conducting an ongoing study on behalf of the Wildlife Conservation Research Unit at Oxford University, a scientific group specializing in wild carnivores.

From 1999 they began an ongoing ecological study of African lions in Hwange to measure the impact of sport-hunting beyond the park on the lion population within the park, using radio-telemetry and direct observation.

The research found that 34 of 62 tagged lions died during the study period; 24 were shot by sport hunters. Sport hunters in the safari areas surrounding the park killed 72 percent of tagged adult males from the study area. This caused a decline in numbers of adult males in the population."

(I am not even going to follow their link to the story about the 23 baby elephants recently sold to China, but maybe someone else wants to.)

If nothing else, this will cause the international community to take a closer look at some of these practices.

Conservation indeed.