CDC Notifies States, Large Cities To Prepare For Vaccine Distribution As Soon As Late October

[DLgal]

I wasn't implying anything. You've posted a couple of these at least in the last couple days with no attribution, or the ability for others to read what you're referring to. Your previous post left out a lot of information "... testing for one of it's routes" Are they testing passengers? Crew? Everyone? Who pays? How rapid is it? Who gets the results? Are all follow up questions to a very vague post.

This is why we have search engines. This is a major news story right now.

 

[Hikergirl]

Actually you haven't paid for it, this is being added to the national debt.

Oh I guess that does make it free then

 

[Hikergirl]

This is why we have search engines. This is a major news story right now.

So then it's really easy to find a link and post it
It isn't like it's an uncommon practice on the internet for people to post a link to the news article they've read when posting something about the news they read in it.

 

[godisney14]

(Deleted because don’t want to be kicked off.)

 

[disneychrista]

As if there needs to be any more proof that this whole situation has turned to be more political.

I really wonder if this wasn’t an election year how the whole COVID response would have been.

 

[LuvOrlando]

I really wonder if this wasn’t an election year how the whole COVID response would have been.

Totally with you, it's all been very odd.

Just went back to lookup what was going on with the llama antibody treatment and realized there is virtually no interest in treatments anymore and all anyone talks about is the vaccines. I feel like they just flipped the script. Is Remdisivir a sure thing? Do we not need to develop the llama antibodies? Are we all good with the convalescent plasma? (Why do I sound like I just watched an 80's cliffhanger?)

 

[bcla]

So, what do you think is their advantage here to- in your words- "posturing for Wall Street"?

Public goodwill. Hope. That’s really what’s been driving the markets recently.

 

[DLgal]

Totally with you, it's all been very odd.

Just went back to lookup what was going on with the llama antibody treatment and realized there is virtually no interest in treatments anymore and all anyone talks about is the vaccines. I feel like they just flipped the script. Is Remdisivir a sure thing? Do we not need to develop the llama antibodies? Are we all good with the convalescent plasma? (Why do I sound like I just watched an 80's cliffhanger?)

The treatments are still being worked on. I believe just in the last week, there was some positive news about one of the antibody treatments (Ely-Lilly maybe?) and some new clinical trials that have begun using these lab created antibodies.

 

[Jonfw2]

Public goodwill. Hope. That’s really what’s been driving the markets recently.

But all they said was their phase 3 trial started. That’s it.

 

[okeydokey]

Mindboggling news from the White House today. Seems they are trying to ensure no one will trust the vaccine.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/23/politics/trump-fda-coronavirus-vaccine/index.html

The companies have pledged to not release anything unless they are confident in it, someone’s wishful thinking shouldn’t pressure them to do anything less than focus on safety and efficacy. The White House isn’t the final say in this.

 

[YeOswaldianSociety]

I have zero trust in any guidance from the CDC these days. They seem to have one purpose and that's to make one human a happy and it would seem our health is seemingly what's being put so openly on the line.

 

[tarheelmjfan]

Mindboggling news from the White House today. Seems they are trying to ensure no one will trust the vaccine.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/23/politics/trump-fda-coronavirus-vaccine/index.html

This is a prime example of why people need to stop blaming the media for making everything political. In many cases, they're reporting what they've been told. It's often political, because politicians are making things political that shouldn't be.

PS: IMO, the propaganda "news" sources on cable, Youtube, podcasts & some newspapers don't qualify as legitimate media to me.

 

[mousefan73]

Interesting perspective. I'm guessing we have different standards for what's overdone.

I disagree Wall Street knows there won't be plenty of money made off this.

Investors are not looking at the individual stock price or perfornace of these pharma giants in relation to a covid vaccine. When positive or negative Covid vaccine news came out their stocks just ticked a bit up or down...
Where Wallstreet is holding their breath is IF and WHEN a ANY vaccine comes out and it's effects on the overall market and economy.. Mainly jobs/revenue for those industries who will recover only when a vaccine comes out.. in fact you see other stocks , airlines, react more to any vaccine news than the pharma company itself.

A covid vaccine will not make or break these companies' balance sheets. Now the only company whose stock price is dependent and betting on a Covid vaccine is Moderna. I would be more critical as they have never brought a vaccine to market and have a lot riding on this.

 

[Jonfw2]

Totally with you, it's all been very odd.

Just went back to lookup what was going on with the llama antibody treatment and realized there is virtually no interest in treatments anymore and all anyone talks about is the vaccines. I feel like they just flipped the script. Is Remdisivir a sure thing? Do we not need to develop the llama antibodies? Are we all good with the convalescent plasma? (Why do I sound like I just watched an 80's cliffhanger?)

The treatment route is going at a rapid pace. I posted something regarding it a week or so ago I believe. A study was just completed using a drug to compliment Remdesivir and it shortened the treatment course by about 20% on average.

Additionally, there are many early stage treatments being work on. One of which, Eli Lilly's, just produced promising results a week or so ago. it appears to greatly reduce the chance for moderate cases to get worse.



https://www.sciencemag.org/news/202...t-promising-results-antibody-against-covid-19

 

[_19disnA]

My view is that we have made very little progress with regard to a cure/treatment for covid. Almost weekly since this started there have been reports about some amazing result from this or that. Generally, those statements tend to be more wishful thinking, optimistic rhetoric and little scientific proof of success. They tend to fade into the background once they find out they really do not work as great as originally thought. Some people with covid get better on their own, so the fact they were given X and recover proves nothing. That is why clinical tests usually accepted study protocol are the only reliable way to determine if some treatment actually does anything.

 

[Jonfw2]

My view is that we have made very little progress with regard to a cure/treatment for covid. Almost weekly since this started there have been reports about some amazing result from this or that. Generally, those statements tend to be more wishful thinking, optimistic rhetoric and little scientific proof of success. They tend to fade into the background once they find out they really do not work as great as originally thought. Some people with covid get better on their own, so the fact they were given X and recover proves nothing.

This view is in total opposition of fact and reality. In April, over 2,000 Americans a day were dying of Covid. Today, with Remdesivir and other treatments, that number is under 800 per day. I truly don't see how you can look at this and say there's nothing proven.

The vaccine info is readily available anywhere you'd choose to look. Hundreds of thousands of people worldwide are currently participating in late stage trials. It's just fact.

 

[mom2rtk]

My view is that we have made very little progress with regard to a cure/treatment for covid. Almost weekly since this started there have been reports about some amazing result from this or that. Generally, those statements tend to be more wishful thinking, optimistic rhetoric and little scientific proof of success. They tend to fade into the background once they find out they really do not work as great as originally thought. Some people with covid get better on their own, so the fact they were given X and recover proves nothing. That is why clinical tests usually accepted study protocol are the only reliable way to determine if some treatment actually does anything.

So the death rate is the same as it was back in March and April?

 

[sam_gordon]

This view is in total opposition of fact and reality. In April, over 2,000 Americans a day were dying of Covid. Today, with Remdesivir and other treatments, that number is under 800 per day. I truly don't see how you can look at this and say there's nothing proven.

But hasn't the number infected ALSO dropped? Wouldn't that also account for a drop in the number of deaths? Yes, I'm sure treatment has gotten better. But there's more to the drop in the number of deaths than just treatment.

 

[Jonfw2]

But hasn't the number infected ALSO dropped? Wouldn't that also account for a drop in the number of deaths? Yes, I'm sure treatment has gotten better. But there's more to the drop in the number of deaths than just treatment.

No. We are confirming more cases now per day on average than we were when the death rate was at its high. In fact, in July, we were confirming THREE TIMES as many cases per day as we were in March. With 1/3 of the daily deaths.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

 

[_19disnA]

The vaccine info is readily available anywhere you'd choose to look. Hundreds of thousands of people worldwide are currently participating in late stage trials. It's just fact.

Well, I guess your idea of 'fact' is different from mine. While there are large scale trials underway globally, there is NO evidence yet that any of these vaccines actually prevent covid and if you develop antibodies for how long they last in your system. Vaccine trials don't always result in success.

What we didn't know in March/April was that wearing a mask, don't touch your face, stay 6' away from others, avoid closed spaces were good ways to prevent this disease. Many people are following those recommendations, so clearly that has had an impact on the numbers getting infected/dying from covid. In addition, many businesses closed, people working from home, etc. has also had an impact. While major pro sports have restarted, few if any fans are allowed to be present. All of those things has had an impact on reducing the numbers and slowing the spread of covid.