CDC Notifies States, Large Cities To Prepare For Vaccine Distribution As Soon As Late October

[Colleen27]

Was not suggesting anything. Just noting a correlation.
Could be nothing. Could be the population in areas with higher vaccination rates feeling a sense of invincibility and going back to a pre-pandemic lifestyle.

I think there's probably something to that. I was really surprised tonight at our parish fish fry how many people came out despite the rather awful case numbers we're seeing lately, but "my parents are vaccinated so I'm not so worried about it" was something I heard pretty often (along with "We're vaccinated so we're not worried" from the older parishioners). And since I'm in that camp myself - I wasn't even thinking about eating out, volunteering at events like the fish fry or at DD's school, subbing even at our tiny private school, etc. until my mother had gotten the vaccine, since I'm her only contact with the outside world - I can't be too critical... but I do wonder if that's part of why cases are increasing again. My baseline, even with my mom vaccinated, is somewhat cautious but I'll bet some of these people wouldn't have taken any precautions at all if not for those concerns. We definitely had more people today who needed to be reminded of mask rules or even given masks when they tried to play the "I didn't bring one" card.

On a brighter note, the hot topic of conversation among the kitchen crew was vaccines - five of us, myself included, all parents in our early 40s who are eligible either based on health/weight or profession, got calls from the health department this afternoon to schedule appointments for next week. In fact, three of us are carpooling out on Wed. because we just happen to have the same appointment times. So I'm actually going to get vaccinated before DH, who is in a higher priority group for several reasons, because he's still holding out for a J&J appointment at a time that won't demand a day off work (not that I blame him on either count; he has an anaphylactic allergy so he'd rather J&J than the others, and his boss just quit and assistant is out on medical for the next 6-8 weeks, so missing work is tough right now).

 

[kdonnel]

It's been happening in our district since Sept. Kids have no issues wearing masks. It's the adults who cry like babies about it.

Seriously, though, if a kid won't wear a mask at school here, after 3 strikes, they are booted out of in person learning for the semester and have to do the virtual academy.

If my wife booted kids after three mask infractions her class room would have been empty since day 1.

The kids wear their masks on top of their heads like a hat, on their ears, on their foreheads, over their eyes, swinging them from their fingers, etc.

Her experience is not unique at her school.

 

[Colleen27]

It's been happening in our district since Sept. Kids have no issues wearing masks. It's the adults who cry like babies about it.

Seriously, though, if a kid won't wear a mask at school here, after 3 strikes, they are booted out of in person learning for the semester and have to do the virtual academy.

Same, on both counts. We had a couple of kids who tried to make it an issue because they come from anti-masking families, but even they fell in line after a couple of days because their parents chose our school specifically because we're in person and didn't want the kids getting bounced to full virtual. If schools are having problems keeping kids masked, it is because they're not being consistent with enforcement IMO.

Our desks are spaced, but I doubt they're at 6 feet in any but the smallest classes and we didn't use plexi out of concern that they'd become a high-touch point, get knocked over and scooted around, etc. We have been in person since August with no in-class spread.

 

[punkin]

My DD22 got a call from the health department offering her an appointment tomorrow. However, she's currently with me in a different state and I'd rather not drive her back. She already had an appointment scheduled at a FEMA mass vaccination site on April 3 so we let it pass. However, it looks like things are starting to open up.

 

[jlwhitney]

If my wife booted kids after three mask infractions her class room would have been empty since day 1.

The kids wear their masks on top of their heads like a hat, on their ears, on their foreheads, over their eyes, swinging them from their fingers, etc.

Her experience is not unique at her school.

a lot of teachers here just do there best and give as many mask breaks as they are comfortable with . Each classroom ends up different. But only 3rd and up have to wear in the classrooms anyway. Neighboring counties got plexiglass for desks so they don’t have to wear at desks. Overall it’s different everywhere. We have two schools that don’t even require them (charter and private ). Plus there are districts in this country that don’t require them either (parts of Georgia , parts of Florida also I know of for sure)

 

[godisney14]

If my wife booted kids after three mask infractions her class room would have been empty since day 1.

The kids wear their masks on top of their heads like a hat, on their ears, on their foreheads, over their eyes, swinging them from their fingers, etc.

Her experience is not unique at her school.

a lot of teachers here just do there best and give as many mask breaks as they are comfortable with . Each classroom ends up different. But only 3rd and up have to wear in the classrooms anyway. Neighboring counties got plexiglass for desks so they don’t have to wear at desks. Overall it’s different everywhere. We have two schools that don’t even require them (charter and private ). Plus there are districts in this country that don’t require them either (parts of Georgia , parts of Florida also I know of for sure)

Obviously, the behaviors/policies in GA/FL schools are going to be very different from schools in other states such as WA/CA. The policies from the state head level have been different from the very beginning. So, makes sense.

 

[Joe in VA]

It’s just like any other behavior. If the parents are acting like kids with masks or taking it lightly, the more likely their kids will as well. Good thing the schools here around me, especially the private schools, have a very strict masking and distancing policy. That strictness actually has encouraged more parents here to want to send their kids to in-person.

BTW, where’s the updates on COVID case numbers. There was someone here who’s been religiously posting regular updates. But, haven’t seen recently.

Sorry, been very busy with work and moving to FL. Very excited as I didn’t work for a year and now am up before 6 AM on Saturday working.

Will try to post update in next few days. Cases do look to have plateaued this week but deaths are falling like a rock. Could see this plateau for a few weeks before vax really take over, imho.

 

[EACarlson]

For the first time I can recall since May, WI did not have a single county with more than 100 cases reported. Positivity rate is 2.2%. By Monday, 1/4 of the state's population will have received at least one dose of a vaccine.

I live three blocks from a college campus, I could not tell you a difference on a friday night between now and last September. Huge backyard parties, at least one every block. The local "Irish" pub had their normal huge tent party on St. Patrick's Day.

 

[dvcgirl67]

This can't be right. Does the CDC have any credibility anymore?

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/19/us/cdc-schools-three-feet-covid.html

How are they losing credibility? Things and policies change over time as we learn more. We know that young children are not getting this virus in any great numbers....and they're not transmitting it. Vaccinate the teachers and all ancillary school staff and open the schools. Over 2.3 million women have left the workforce. This is unprecedented in our modern economy. These women can't get back to work...until their kids are back in school. And our economy can't get anywhere close to where it was in 2019 until that happens. The unemployment number of 6.5% is not real, even the Fed Chair has said so....it's 10% or more.

 

[godisney14]

How are they losing credibility? Things and policies change over time as we learn more. We know that young children are not getting this virus in any great numbers....and they're not transmitting it. Vaccinate the teachers and all ancillary school staff and open the schools. Over 2.3 million women have left the workforce. This is unprecedented in our modern economy. These women can't get back to work...until their kids are back in school. And our economy can't get anywhere close to where it was in 2019 until that happens. The unemployment number of 6.5% is not real, even the Fed Chair has said so....it's 10% or more.

Children do transmit it. Even the CDC that you are defending has stated so on their website clearly.

The CDC and any public epidemiologist will always have critics with everything they say and do. Unfortunately, that comes with the public job. Regardless of education these epidemiologists have, people have a preconceived bias that plays into whether they accept or criticize these epidemiologists’ statements. They are deemed wrong 100% of the time by about 50% of the population.

 

[dvcgirl67]

Children do transmit it. Even the CDC that you are defending has stated so on their website clearly.

The CDC and any public epidemiologist will always have critics with everything they say and do. Unfortunately, that comes with the public job. Regardless of education these epidemiologists have, people have a preconceived bias that plays into whether they accept or criticize these epidemiologists’ statements. They are deemed wrong 100% of the time by about 50% of the population.

I should have said...young children are not getting covid in great numbers....and they're not transmitting it in great numbers. We know this. This isn't a biased opinion...it's a fact. We all know this to be true and that it is the greatest silver lining in this whole mess of a pandemic....we're not losing many children. The loss of any child is one too many, but it is very rare.

And...with the availability of vaccines increasing and all adults in the U.S. having the opportunity to get that shot by the summer....it will be safe to send kids back to school. We have to take this step this coming fall to get back to normal.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I found this to be an interesting stat. From my state's Department of Corrections: "Close to 60% of staff who have been offered the vaccine to date have accepted, and close to 70% of residents offered the vaccine have accepted". According to the news article they are in the 6th week and plan to continue to offer/have clinics for these facilities through mid-April.

The reason I found it interesting is that more inmates than staff wanted the vaccine and it's a high percentage IMO. It's not that I don't see why (they are in close quarters) though not all of the inmates are long-term inmates, just thought it was interesting. According to that article "the prison system had reported 1,277 cases among staff and 6,117 among inmates since the start of the pandemic. There also had been 21 deaths among prisoners and staff." I'm not entirely positive but I believe there's been more deaths from the staff than inmates but I'd have to double check that information to be sure.

Now as far as headlines go..what do you think the headline read? "About 40% of prison staff, 30% of inmates decline COVID shot". Contained within the article is the reverse way of saying it which is what I quoted in my first part of my comment.

 

[DisneyJamieCA]

So some good news - it looks like every CA (of age) will be eligible by end of April. Hopefully they can figure out the distribution issues to get shots in arms discussed in the article!

https://abc7news.com/society/heres-when-newsom-says-everyone-in-ca-can-access-vaccine/10434630/

 

[crazyventures]

So some good news - it looks like every CA (of age) will be eligible by end of April. Hopefully they can figure out the distribution issues to get shots in arms discussed in the article!

https://abc7news.com/society/heres-when-newsom-says-everyone-in-ca-can-access-vaccine/10434630/

This is great news! I'm the only adult in my family who hasn't gotten theirs yet. I may still try to put myself on a waitlist at CVS or Walgreens, as my 64 year old mom (not eligible yet either) was able to get her first dose that way.

 

[dvcgirl67]

NJ: Cases today 3,940. Cases one week ago....3,264. Up almost 21%. The country as a whole has plateaued at about 65K cases daily. Possible that states like mine that are now increasing....are holding that plateau in place.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Looks like the mass vaccination event at Arrowhead went well:

https://www.kmbc.com/article/166-ca...-mass-vaccination-event-at-arrowhead/35885398https://www.kmbc.com/article/pickin...-mega-vaccination-event-moves-faster/35893470
The only main issue I heard was making sure people went into the right gate at the stadium.

Interesting point in the first article most especially important for drive-thru events that I kinda didn't even think about but which makes perfect sense: "One of the most important things is to wear clothes so that we can easily get to your shoulder," he said (Col. Russell Khol-Medical Liaison). "As you’re in the car, have your coat off, have a shirt that we can easily get to your shoulder. That’ll make your life, and the lives of the vaccinators a lot easier."

National Guard coordinated it and said it was the largest event so far in the state though MO has been using National Guard for these events for a few months now IIRC.

Consistent in issues that happened at the first mass vaccination my county held on the other side of the state line: "We’re asking you to get here at your scheduled time. Not early, not late. Show up at your appointment time."

This event used J&J and it was mentioned any leftover will just be given to Jackson County Health Department. All 8,000 (which I think prior information had originally said 6,000 or so appointments expected so that was def. bumped up) appointments were filled but they mention in one of the articles around 10% of no shows occur typically at these types of events.

 

[wvjules]

We signed up on a waitlist at CVS yesterday. While there we were talking to a guy who had just gotten his shot. He told us he was on the waitlist for one day before he got called for his vaccine. So I’m guessing we will both be getting it this week. Our CVS has JnJ. I’ve considered waiting for moderna or Pfizer due to some co-morbidities but then decided I’m gonna take whatever I can as soon as I can.

 

[mefordis]

a lot of teachers here just do there best and give as many mask breaks as they are comfortable with . Each classroom ends up different. But only 3rd and up have to wear in the classrooms anyway. Neighboring counties got plexiglass for desks so they don’t have to wear at desks. Overall it’s different everywhere. We have two schools that don’t even require them (charter and private ). Plus there are districts in this country that don’t require them either (parts of Georgia , parts of Florida also I know of for sure)

Masks are so easy to wear, and they do not impede breathing whatsoever. Why do they need breaks from the masks?

 

[jlwhitney]

Masks are so easy to wear, and they do not impede breathing whatsoever. Why do they need breaks from the masks?

Maybe you find them easy but not everyone does. Plus they are so gross to wear, moist cloth on face yuck.

 

[mrs. magoo]

Masks are so easy to wear, and they do not impede breathing whatsoever. Why do they need breaks from the masks?

The kids do need to eat breakfast and lunch and need water during the day so yes there are going to be mask breaks. In high school the only time they are not wearing them is lunch and as soon as they get up from their table they need to have them on. It makes it a long day of mask wearing during school. I take mine off when I am alone in my room. I also change masks at lunch.