Casey Anthony NOT GUILTY & Sentencing Thread 6

[Feralpeg]

Exactly.Oh please. Don't you have a defense party to attend? Again...DO NOT tell me what I would have thought of the jury if they had come back with a guilty verdict. I absolutely feel Casey is guilty, 100%, and of course I wanted to see her convicted. I would NOT have thought of them as "saints". With the amount of time they deliberated, I questioned BEFORE THE VERDICT WAS ANNOUNCED how they could have reached it in that amount of time, especially knowing that they hadn't asked a single question or asked to have anything played back to them. THEY DID NOT HAVE TO DO THAT...we all know that. But THAT is what I felt. NOT what you have thrown out there. So please Feral, speak for yourself. I was concerned when they came back so soon that if it WAS guilty that with the amount of time they spent on the deliberations, or lack thereof, there was probably some cause for mistrial/appeal/overturn. No "sainthood" bestowed.

I wasn't directed this at YOU personally. It is directed to those in general that I see bad mouthing the jury members. They did their job as they believed it should be done. Whether you or anyone else likes the result, they did what they were asked to do.

I find it really sad that people are now slamming the jury. But then, we all had information they did not have. We had years to develop our opinions. They did not. If they had, they would not have been on the jury. Most of us developed our opinions by discussing it for months with others. The jurors were not allowed to talk about it until deliberation began. Very easy to cast stones from the outside.

You can believe anything you want. I am also entitled to my opinion. It seems every time I express an opinion different than yours, you jump on me and accuse me of telling your what to think. Last time, you said it was my method. All I did then was express an opinion different than yours. You seem to take it as a personal attack. I don't remember ever directing anything to you. Believe me, I won't. Maybe you are taking it personally because my opinion differs from yours. I left the prior threads because I didn't want to upset people, but I really don't think I should have to leave because my opinion isn't the one of popular choice.

 

[dandave]

Another question for the Dis:
On June 15th, Cindy and Caylee visit Grandpa in the assisted living home. Cindy learns that Caycee has been stealing money from her father's account. She had been stealing from the Anthonys' account as well, but it would take longer for Cindy to discover that.
Lee said there was a huge fight that night. Cindy says that they watched videos. BUT, the jury didn't hear about that.
Caycee's hole card to stay out of trouble for felony theft was Caylee. Why would she purposely kill the only leverage she had?

 

[DianeV]

I believe some of these jurors knew this was going to be a big case and did see noteriety and $$$. From what I have seen and read many were not even paying attention during the trial. I believe many already made up their minds that if they voted not guilty they would make money because of course people would want to know why. Some have even insinuated that they made up their mind at opening statement which they arent even supposed to do!

If they had voted guilty would anyone really care or want to talk to them? How would they make any money?

This may sound cynical but I dont know what else to think when I see the jurors and how obvious from what they are starting to say that they did not follow the instructions given and in fact, did not even take enough time to deliberate fairly. The alternate juror accidentally said 'we' many times. If he wasnt involved in the deliberations then how did he know what they were all thinking? They obviously talked about it.

I am disappointed that anyone who initially felt she was guilty gave in after such a short time. I would be interested to know what exactly makes a person change from guilty of first degree murder to not guilty of anything in a 10 hour time span. And then at some point they were equally split on manslaughter? How does that change like that so easily and quickly?

yes people are attacking this jury. They come across as not doing their job correctly. The fact that they are now looking for money to speak tells alot too

And in the meantime their personal gain lets someone get away with murdering her daughter. And if playing devils advocate she accidentally drowned, you dont make it look like a homicide. And her dad being former law enforcement how could he or why would he want to cover up an accident?

Jurors and others readily believe that George could have been involved or covered it up but was there any more proof of that then that Casey killed her? yet that is what we are hearing over and over that it must have been some horrible accident. HOW does anyone know that any more than it was a homicide?

 

[Kurby]

I absolutely think that some jurors saw dollar signs. I also think their verdict was wrong, but that's the chance you take with this system. I'm just waiting for her to get out and someone to take her out one night. BOOM! ovah. With her partying style, it won't be long. It wouldn't even necessarily be someone who wanted to get her for killing her child. Just a random scum.

that in no way is a justification. 2 wrongs don't make a right and i would hope that IF someone did that they would get their day in court and IF proven it was premeditated that they them self get life in prison or even the death penalty.

again - there is NO justification for taking the law into your own hands. we do not live in a vigilante community. you cna't just go to her house and burn it down because you don't like the verdict BUT you can expect the public to ***** and complain if the don't like the verdict.

 

[dandave]

Exactly the point.

The jury did have all the evidence and made a hasty conclusion based on not following the instructions of the judge.

Also, it was testified to that on the 26th she herself smelled the death in the car and dumped it the next day.

Pardon? The question was: Which friend contradicted Maria about having ridden in Caycee's car and noticing absolutely no smell, after Caylee went missing.

 

[Mosoh]

Actually, what is apparent from statements some jurors have made is that they clearly didn't understand some of the charges, took opening statements as evidence, and didn't understand the judge's instructions. Possibly, they also discussed the case before deliberations, judging by some of their statements.

If nothing else, maybe this case will be studied as far as jury selection, sequestering, deliberations and instructions, so that changes may be made towards more just verdicts.

Or just the opposite for cases just as this

 

[MusiqChic99]

Well, remember, she did have all those imaginary friends that she could have picked a fight with at anytime ... and from what my sources tell me, they could get pretty rowdy sometimes too ...



ITA ... and after actually listening to Juror #3 & to alternate Juror #14, it was pretty much confirmed for me ...

Me too.

I still want answers as to why a not guilty verdict for child abuse.

 

[Kurby]

Another question for the Dis:
On June 15th, Cindy and Caylee visit Grandpa in the assisted living home. Cindy learns that Caycee has been stealing money from her father's account. She had been stealing from the Anthonys' account as well, but it would take longer for Cindy to discover that.
Lee said there was a huge fight that night. Cindy says that they watched videos. BUT, the jury didn't hear about that.
Caycee's hole card to stay out of trouble for felony theft was Caylee. Why would she purposely kill the only leverage she had?

do people really need a reason? why do other parents kill their kids? sometimes it's if i can't have them you can't either, sometimes it's i'll teach you a lesson, sometimes it's i can't be bothered dealing with them anymore,

the list goes on and on.

yes we WANT a reason - everyone does - it doesn't make sense not to have a reason but sometimes we dont' get one like in this case becuase she isn't talking.

 

[JaneBanks]

Per Aphrodite Jones, Baez and Casey has signed on to the William Morris agency already.

 

[Wadecool]

Holy crap! They saying on HLN that Casey and Baez just signed a contract with a major PR firm and they are even planning a reality show for her. What is going on?

 

[kidshop]

Actually, what is apparent from statements some jurors have made is that they clearly didn't understand some of the charges, took opening statements as evidence, and didn't understand the judge's instructions. Possibly, they also discussed the case before deliberations, judging by some of their statements.

If nothing else, maybe this case will be studied as far as jury selection, sequestering, deliberations and instructions, so that changes may be made towards more just verdicts.

I believe California has laws that jury member can't profit off of a trial for 90 days. So I'm thinking we need federal laws that a juror member cannot profit in this manner no matter the verdict. You should not make millions off of being on a high profile trial. It may attract a certain kind of person.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Peg,

You basically called everyone who disagrees with the verdict and jury conduct a sore loser. Never mind that the opinions may be well thought out.

You didn't have to call anyone else out personally over it. Your intent was clear.

It went beyond expressing your opinion. Then you blame others for not likig that you disagreed. What they didn't like was the indignant manner you chose to express your disagreement. (that is my observation)

I wasn't directed this at YOU personally. It is directed to those in general that I see bad mouthing the jury members. They did their job as they believed it should be done. Whether you or anyone else likes the result, they did what they were asked to do.

I find it really sad that people are now slamming the jury. But then, we all had information they did not have. We had years to develop our opinions. They did not. If they had, they would not have been on the jury. Most of us developed our opinions by discussing it for months with others. The jurors were not allowed to talk about it until deliberation began. Very easy to cast stones from the outside.

You can believe anything you want. I am also entitled to my opinion. It seems every time I express an opinion different than yours, you jump on me and accuse me of telling your what to think. Last time, you said it was my method. All I did then was express an opinion different than yours. You seem to take it as a personal attack. I don't remember ever directing anything to you. Believe me, I won't. Maybe you are taking it personally because my opinion differs from yours. I left the prior threads because I didn't want to upset people, but I really don't think I should have to leave because my opinion isn't the one of popular choice.

 

[ols386]

do people really need a reason? why do other parents kill their kids? sometimes it's if i can't have them you can't either, sometimes it's i'll teach you a lesson, sometimes it's i can't be bothered dealing with them anymore,
the list goes on and on.

yes we WANT a reason - everyone does - it doesn't make sense not to have a reason but sometimes we dont' get one like in this case becuase she isn't talking.

Exactly.

 

[MusiqChic99]

Another question for the Dis:
On June 15th, Cindy and Caylee visit Grandpa in the assisted living home. Cindy learns that Caycee has been stealing money from her father's account. She had been stealing from the Anthonys' account as well, but it would take longer for Cindy to discover that.
Lee said there was a huge fight that night. Cindy says that they watched videos. BUT, the jury didn't hear about that.
Caycee's hole card to stay out of trouble for felony theft was Caylee. Why would she purposely kill the only leverage she had?

That's a good question. BUT so is why do you not report your child missing for 31 days...IF you didn't have a hand in killing your child???

 

[Samba]

JB and KC signed with Wm Morris Agency?

 

[FredinFL]

that in no way is a justification. 2 wrongs don't make a right and i would hope that IF someone did that they would get their day in court and IF proven it was premeditated that they them self get life in prison or even the death penalty.

again - there is NO justification for taking the law into your own hands. we do not live in a vigilante community. you cna't just go to her house and burn it down because you don't like the verdict BUT you can expect the public to ***** and complain if the don't like the verdict.

Wahwahwah. Cry me a river. She had no compassion for the baby she murdered. I'm not saying I'm gonna do it, I'm saying she deserves it and I wouldn't waste a second feeling bad about. I hope she gets what she deserves.

 

[dandave]

do people really need a reason? why do other parents kill their kids? sometimes it's if i can't have them you can't either, sometimes it's i'll teach you a lesson, sometimes it's i can't be bothered dealing with them anymore,

the list goes on and on.

yes we WANT a reason - everyone does - it doesn't make sense not to have a reason but sometimes we dont' get one like in this case becuase she isn't talking.

It was more of a rhetorical question, but some on this thread do present themselves as being some of the greatest thinkers of our time. One never knows when all the answers will spill forth from a Diser.
I'm sure that a Disney Free Dining Offer or some such will come out soon and distract everyone's attention from world events, once again. But I have packing to do, so ta-ta for now!

 

[joviroxx]

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Anyone who thinks justice was served? Casey presumed innocent. George convicted without a trial

A self proclaimed liar is believed over a man with no history, with NO proof presented.....

 

[dandave]

That's a good question. BUT so is why do you not report your child missing for 31 days...IF you didn't have a hand in killing your child???

Simple. You would admitting that you no longer have leverage to stay out of jail for felony theft. The leverage died by whatever means!

 

[usnuzuloose]

I actually do believe Casey killed her daughter. I was really hoping that the jury would come back with a guilty verdict.

But I still will not sit here and insult and second guess the jury. They made a really tough decision, which was a much different decision than whether or not they think she did it. They had to decide whether or not the state proved it beyond a reasonable doubt. And apparently there was some clear reasonable doubt to them since the jury came back unanimous after such a short period of time.

So I guess that if the shoe were on the other foot then you would not have a problem with them coming back with a guilty verdict? I am just asking a valid question, and asked if you would think about your answer before you answered it. I am not making fun or lite of you. Just asking a valid question.