Cases rising or dropping by you?

[gotomu212]

One of my friends that is an essential worker tested positive along with his whole family yesterday. It's going to be a bit before I find out if anyone in his family goes to the hospital. There is definitely a lag.

Exactly. My mother’s neighbor passed away. She got was exposed Sept. 13th (it was very clearly contact traced to a church choir performance where no one wore masks arrrrr!!and 25% of the people there got it. Started to not feel well on the 19th, tested on the 23rd when clearly sick, hospitalized on the 25th, moved to a ventilator on the 30th, and then died on the 12th. 4 weeks from exposure, and 3 weeks from tested.

 

[SaintsManiac]

Louisiana reporting 3,492 cases today. Highest daily total since the pandemic started. Great.

 

[Farro]

This is definitely going to be the phase of the pandemic when most Americans are going to know someone who gets the virus. I had some family and acquaintances get it back in the spring. Haven't heard of anyone since. But our local news has a couple of convenience stores closing because employees tested positive. Our primary and middle schools went remote today because there are multiple kids who have tested positive.

I'm feeling like I need to do a big grocery store run, early when there are few people, and really decrease errands if I can.

We knew two people (brother in-law and niece) who had it in March, fever, body aches.

This time we've known a few people and most had little to no symptoms, so that's good.

 

[Ariel484]

Ohio had 7101 cases yesterday. Hospitals in my area are starting to make changes. The Cleveland Clinic is now postponing nonessential surgical cases that require an inpatient hospital stay at most Cleveland Clinic Ohio hospitals. Others are limiting how many people can come in. A person in labor is only allowed 1 support person with them. The same is true for any surgeries. University Hospitals has had this for awhile. My daughter had surgery in October and only one of us were allowed to be with her.

We are lucky that we do have tons of hospitals in our area but they are starting to have staffing issues from staff getting sick.

8071 today, just over an average of 11% positive over the past 7 days. CCF tweeted that at their testing site yesterday, 32% of patients they tested were positive for COVID-19. This is insane.

I'm glad your daughter was able to get her surgery in October.

 

[dvcgirl67]

We knew two people (brother in-law and niece) who had it in March, fever, body aches.

This time we've known a few people and most had little to no symptoms, so that's good.

That is good. And I'm hoping that these exploding numbers represent a lot of people who can easily shake it off. We're really mostly going to let this rip it seems, without any serious lockdowns. If we were going to put lockdowns in place, the time would be now. I was reading an article on Germany earlier, and while they locked down on October 28th, their case numbers are continuing to rise and so are hospitalizations, but the trajectory of the new cases looks like it's beginning to peak. Just like here in mid-March, we really did a pretty hard lockdown in NJ, but we didn't peak in cases until late April, so about 5 weeks. Later for hospitalizations and finally death.

I worry a lot about these numbers really taking off, and while mask compliance is pretty good around here, we have some indoor dining and like everywhere....a lot of pandemic fatigue with people getting together indoors. I wonder what it looks like in a month. And if our leaders will wish they shut things down now, at least to some degree.

 

[Farro]

Doesn't it seem like the strain has just gotten more contagious?

Not more virulent, but more contagious. That does happen with viruses, they often become milder, but easier to spread.

These numbers are crazy all over the world, it just seems that something had to have changed besides restaurants and bars opening, people gathering, etc.

I think these large numbers are a double edged sword for the general public. It can scare them, but it can also make them think, welp, I'm gonna get it anyways so why bother staying home... you know?

 

[RamblingMad]

Doesn't it seem like the strain has just gotten more contagious?

Not more virulent, but more contagious. That does happen with viruses, they often become milder, but easier to spread.

These numbers are crazy all over the world, it just seems that something had to have changed besides restaurants and bars opening, people gathering, etc.

Masks reduce the viral load being spread, so it makes sense that people have more mild cases. I don't know if it's more contagious. I think, people have covid fatigue.

 

[piglet1979]

8071 today, just over an average of 11% positive over the past 7 days. CCF tweeted that at their testing site yesterday, 32% of patients they tested were positive for COVID-19. This is insane.

I'm glad your daughter was able to get her surgery in October.

I just saw. It is getting really scary here. We have gone back to a more strict quarantine in our house. We have been pretty strict since the beginning but we were going the grocery store a bit more. We are back to trying to go once every other week. Iam also back to working fully from home. I was only going in once a week. DH and the kids and been fully home.

 

[SaintsManiac]

We knew two people (brother in-law and niece) who had it in March, fever, body aches.

This time we've known a few people and most had little to no symptoms, so that's good.

A close friend of mine lives in MO and his fever got up 105 yesterday. The ER was full, so a nurse friend came over to help him. He was terrified.

I think it's a crapshoot, as always.

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

We are past the point of this surge that new cases per day metric is less informative than daily hospitalizations. We’re already more than 3x daily new cases (yes 3X) than the high point earlier this year when we thought we were going to be in trouble. Hospitalizations just broke the previous record and will only be increasing in the coming days, weeks and months.

I never said it was the end all be all of anything. Further, New cases per day is decently predictive of hospitalizations. And all three metrics, new cases per day, hospitalizations, and deaths are on the upswing. I repeat. It's out of control. I really don't mind people giving me lectures as long as said lecture is on a subject I need like knitting.

Whoops. A little bit too big


Whoops. Missed it a bit in the neck. No dear, it doesn't make your hips look fat.......

 

[Pyotr]

Masks reduce the viral load being spread, so it makes sense that people have more mild cases. I don't know if it's more contagious. I think, people have covid fatigue.

Well actually....

The study that many cited in which mask use made people less sick and thus not requiring hospitalization was withdrawn. The locations in the study that were citied as examples of efficient mask use had an increase in hospitalizations after the study concluded.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.10.21.20208728v2

 

[dvcgirl67]

Doesn't it seem like the strain has just gotten more contagious?

Not more virulent, but more contagious. That does happen with viruses, they often become milder, but easier to spread.

These numbers are crazy all over the world, it just seems that something had to have changed besides restaurants and bars opening, people gathering, etc.

I think these large numbers are a double edged sword for the general public. It can scare them, but it can also make them think, welp, I'm gonna get it anyways so why bother staying home... you know?

I think it's just more people moving around, many parts of the country giving up on masks...etc. I keep thinking back to March 20th-Memorial Day. We were shut down...no school, no non-essential shops were open....just restaurant take-out, Lowes/Home Depot and grocery stores. And the stores that were open severely limited the number of people, had the arrows going down aisles...all of that. Nobody was co-mingling inside homes. No weddings...no events, nothing. Almost no travel was happening.

And think of now. People are out and about. Yes, in my area people wear masks in stores, but I do see more noses now. And inside homes....no masks with people co-mingling between households. In other parts of the country nobody is wearing masks and people are just out and about. There are full-blown weddings happening, indoors...and when I see those types of things on social media, it's jarring to me. So I just feel like it's just pandemic fatigue. Pandemic anger...whatever you want to call it.

And sure, I do think people are thinking...well, I'm going to get it anyway....so, whatever. But I think of the person who gets it as a house party, is asymptomatic, then heads to work at the long term care facility and infects 50 people. With so much virus circulating, it's going to be hard to keep it out of those facilities.

 

[dvcgirl67]

Louisiana reporting 3,492 cases today. Highest daily total since the pandemic started. Great.

We're already at 140K for today and some states haven't reported yet, and others don't have all of their data in. We'll break another awful record today. No doubt.

 

[Kitty 34]

Michigan is reporting a new high every day this week! At this rate the only one at our Thanksgiving table will be the turkey.

 

[Dan Murphy]

Interesting numbers...

Yesterday, the US had (rounded) 125,000 new cases. The next 5 highest case count countries COMBINED had 127,000 cases.....

India 37,000
Italy 25,000
Russia 22,000
Poland 22,000
UK 21,000

That was Tuesday, 4 days ago. Yesterday, 153,000. 22% increase in less than a week.

 

[NFLDERS]

Another stunner today...

Over 128,000 cases today for the US.

A few days ago they were talking maybe 200,000 by the end of the year. With that kind of daily leap, it could even be this week.

Another record for Illinois today, 12,623.

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You know what I wish Dan? I wish everyone in Provinces, States, Regions ie would pull together like in the WW's with the Great War efforts. Countries fully recognized the enemy, and worked together to take back their rightly deserved 'Freedoms!' This Canadian is tired of getting it wrong getting it right, I Just want to get it gone.

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

This is beginning to be like the bugs bunny cartoons where the gauge runs faster and faster and faster and then finally says tilt tilt tilt.

 

[NFLDERS]

This is terrible. I am so tired of people who still try to downplay the effect this virus has had in our country. Back in August, I remember watching the governor of SD talking about Sturgis and how little the virus had affected their state. Even reading posts here in Disboard saying the same thing. Well all those people went to their own states and took the virus with them. Look now where they are, 54.7% positivity rate! From someone who has lost family members from Covid-19, I am just upset to see how things have been handled. The other day, I saw 10 individuals (family members or friends) entering Sam's club together without masks. I could see the employees being worried but didn't want to confront them. I am glad that the store was big enough to stay away from them but extremely frustrating!
For God's sake, wear a mask!! Maybe we have to talk in simple words - Wear a mask --- Less Covid --- Better Economy. Not wear a mask -- More Covid -- Bad Economy!!

HEAR! HEAR!

 

[dvcgirl67]

That was Tuesday, 4 days ago. Yesterday, 153,000. 22% increase in less than a week.

Yep...yesterday ranged from 153-159K depending on the tracker you follow. It'll be in the 170-180K range tonight. Brutal.

 

[Dan Murphy]

You know what I wish Dan? I wish everyone in Provinces, States, Regions ie would pull together like in the WW's with the Great War efforts. Countries fully recognized the enemy, and worked together to take back their rightly deserved 'Freedoms!' This Canadian is tired of getting it wrong getting it right, I Just want to get it gone.

For sure, Jane. We all have done it before. If there was world unity, but we can't even get close here in the US to any sense of unity. It has sadly been molded into a political football.

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