Canadians and Passports

Buzz & Woody

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Do you have a passport? We don't. We've always travelled with Birth Certificates and Drivers Licences. I was just reading the CAA website and noticed this article. Am I the only one that didn't know that my JAnuary 7th I need a passport. We are flying to Florida in March for a family cruise and my MIL (who is a travel agent) didn't tell us that we needed a passport. Tsk on her!

Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative

Background
On April 5, 2005, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security announced the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative, which will require all U.S. citizens, Canadians, and citizens of the Caribbean, Bermuda, Panama and Mexico to have a passport or other accepted secure document to enter or re-enter United States.

What is the WHTI?
As of January 8, 2007, the United States' Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative (WHTI) will require all travellers to present a passport or other appropriate secure document when entering or re-entering the United States by air (only).

This is a change from prior travel requirements. The goal is to strengthen border security and facilitate entry into the United States for U.S. citizens and legitimate foreign visitors.

What is a secure document?
Secure documents contain special security features and follow specific manufacturing and issuing processes. To safeguard against counterfeiting, these documents meet certain standards to help ensure they are not improperly acquired, issued, altered or used by impostors.

According to rules that the United States released in August 2006, the following documents are considered secure for entry into the United States from within the western hemisphere by air or sea:

• A valid passport;

• A valid U.S. Merchant Mariner Document;

• A NEXUS Air card when used at a NEXUS Air kiosk; or

• A North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (NATO) identification card, when accompanied by current NATO orders.

When does the WHTI come into effect?
The WHTI will be implemented in two phases to provide as much advance notice as possible to the affected public:

As of January 8, 2007, Canadians must have one of the above-noted secure documents to enter the United States by air (only).

As of June, 2009, Canadians must have a passport or another approved secure travel document to enter the United States by all modes of travel including land and sea.

Does it affect both Canadians and Americans?
Yes. The WHTI will apply to all travellers entering or re-entering the United States, including citizens of Canada, the United States, Bermuda, the Caribbean and Central and South American countries.

Are alternate documents being considered?
Yes. The new rules for air and sea provide Canadian travellers to the United States the option of either a passport or a NEXUS Air card when used at a kiosk. The Government of Canada is working closely with its U.S. counterparts to investigate possible acceptable alternate documents for the land portion of the WHTI implementation
 
Buzz & Woody said:
Do you have a passport? We don't. We've always travelled with Birth Certificates and Drivers Licences. I was just reading the CAA website and noticed this article. Am I the only one that didn't know that my JAnuary 7th I need a passport.

Yes, I have a passport.

Yes, you are the only one.

You're taking a cruise - you need one. Get on that today.

Mbb posted this the other day:
Passport Update! Sept 30/06
Flying/Cruising to/through USA:
Still January 2007, passports *required* (this isn't new, but figures it bears repeating )

Driving, Ferry to USA:
Non-passport travel ***extended*** to June 2008.

So if you're flying or planning a cruise - anywhere that stops in US territory - get your passports...

If you're driving, you've got some more time, ie, 6 more months than previously. New extension was approved yesterday/early today.

HTH!
 
We're driving into Buffalo and flying down to florida from there. So I'm assuming we will not need passports? We'll have ours with us anyways (me, dh, and 2 ds') but my brother and sister don't have theirs updated - will I suggest they get theirs ready before the trip in February?
 
mickeywho? said:
We're driving into Buffalo and flying down to florida from there. So I'm assuming we will not need passports? We'll have ours with us anyways (me, dh, and 2 ds') but my brother and sister don't have theirs updated - will I suggest they get theirs ready before the trip in February?


If you're flying out of Buffalo, a passport is not required for your brother/sister. Will they be entering the USA at all in the next five years? If not, then I wouldn't bother spending the money. But if yes or probably, I would suggest getting them now before a huge rush on them ;) I was not a huge fan of spending the money for a family of 4, but I have to say that I find them very useful and the customs officers seem a little more friendly when I hand them passports for all of us. :confused3

MaryLiz
 

maryliz said:
If you're flying out of Buffalo, a passport is not required for your brother/sister. Will they be entering the USA at all in the next five years? If not, then I wouldn't bother spending the money. But if yes or probably, I would suggest getting them now before a huge rush on them ;) I was not a huge fan of spending the money for a family of 4, but I have to say that I find them very useful and the customs officers seem a little more friendly when I hand them passports for all of us. :confused3

MaryLiz

I would agree - we weren't born in Canada so my parents have always had us carry passports. Of course, now that my brother & sister have to pay their own way it seems they've let them expire. :rolleyes: Twins think alike in many strange ways! :hyper2:
 
If your brother and sister weren't born in Canada, then I would say they should DEFINITELY consider getting their new passports. Seems crazy not to. You're right ... it's probably the $$$ ... I know that's what kept me from getting ours for a couple of years. ;)

And if you're crossing the border WITH them, then I think you have the right to almost INSIST on it ... you don't want them holding you up from your vacation. :teeth:

MaryLiz
 
I took an extra 30 minutes out of my commute last Tuesday to drop off my passport application. It came in the mail two days ago. Exactly one week.

It's easy. I know it is expensive but $87 is a lot cheaper than missing a flight because you have the wrong credentinals.
 
hey holly,

when we all go its before the rule but we got our passports anyway. and yes doll i think you are one of the only ones who don't know, its been big news for a year now. tsk to your MIL! lol! anyway i would go and do that asap, as the lines start to get longer this time of year with people traveling for christmas holidays and what not.

and besides that, how are things with you?! haven't heard from you in a while, how are things with the decision that made regarding M?
 
My brother called me this morning and told me that the MP for his area is on the committee negotiating with the US in regards to passport rules and that the MP had been on the radio this morning announcing that they had agreed to a delay of 17 months for passports being required for air travel. Has anybody else heard anything today?
 
As a canadain who lives in the usa its a very good idea to have a passport even if you have no plans at the moment to travel. Sometimes emergencies come up and then if you need one you have a long wait. It only took 1 month to get my canadian passport, but it took 3 months for my daughters canadian passport, due to the picture not being good enough. Now if you have dual citizenship it can become more interesting. My DD7 is dual and has to use her canadian passport going into Canada, but her USA going into the USA. I'll be in the same boat once I get my USA citizenship. USa is much faster on processing passports and it usually only takes 2-3 weeks from droping it in the mail to recieving it.

Temair
 
Toad said:
I took an extra 30 minutes out of my commute last Tuesday to drop off my passport application. It came in the mail two days ago. Exactly one week.

It's easy. I know it is expensive but $87 is a lot cheaper than missing a flight because you have the wrong credentinals.

Woah! That is really fast!
 
Toad said:
I took an extra 30 minutes out of my commute last Tuesday to drop off my passport application. It came in the mail two days ago. Exactly one week.

It's easy. I know it is expensive but $87 is a lot cheaper than missing a flight because you have the wrong credentinals.
I was wondering what it cost . Thanks for posting . What does it cost for children? The same ? And how often are you expected to renew... And at what cost.?
Sorry for all the questions. I'm really trying to delay this passport thing as long as I can. We usually drive to Florida... But just in case a great ding comes.....
 
Temair said:
As a canadain who lives in the usa its a very good idea to have a passport even if you have no plans at the moment to travel. Sometimes emergencies come up and then if you need one you have a long wait. It only took 1 month to get my canadian passport, but it took 3 months for my daughters canadian passport, due to the picture not being good enough. Now if you have dual citizenship it can become more interesting. My DD7 is dual and has to use her canadian passport going into Canada, but her USA going into the USA. I'll be in the same boat once I get my USA citizenship. USa is much faster on processing passports and it usually only takes 2-3 weeks from droping it in the mail to recieving it.

Temair

You know you aren't supposed to carry more than one passport don't you?
 
bbangel said:
You know you aren't supposed to carry more than one passport don't you?

Actually in most countries you can carry multiple passports. Its a recongition that more people can and do have multiple citizenships. It's mostly Aisian Countries that do not allow multiple passports and citizenships.

Temair
 
Yes, this really has been big news for quite sometime. I think that everyone should update their passport regularly regardless of their plans to travel. It's an important document to have and it can be a long process to get one.

I'm interested in something that was mentioned on this thread regarding dual citizenship. I was always led to believe that the US didn't recognize dual citizenship. So, when you decide to become an American citizen you forfeit other citizenships. I know that this is not the case in Canada at all but I was almost positive that it is in the US. I know this is an aside but I'd be interested in the discussion.

-ETB
 
Dual Citizenship is a bit of a political hot potato. Here's how it works.

I have Canadaian citizenship though birth. Now when I apply and get my US citizenship I give my oath. In the oath I say I give up all citizenships. But the problem is the Canada does not recognize that was actually giving up citizenship. To give up Canadain Citizenship I have to go to an Embasy or Consulate and fill out paperwork rejecting my Canadain citizenship. USA has the same rule in regards to citizenship and giving it up. At the same time USA looks the other way in regards to dual citizenship. There are no laws about dual citizeenship. It's also probably cost prohibitive to escort people to the correct Embasy or Consulate to make sure it does happen.

So I've thought alot about my own situation. If I had to choose I would pick US Citizenship. But since there is no one makeing me lose my Canadain citizenship I will keep both.
 














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