can you bid on two resales at once?

mtquinn

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I called an agent today and made an offer for a BWV resale. My question is: can I bid on more than one at a time and see which bid is verbally accepted first?

If so, can I also go through two different brokers, as they each have their own listings that look good to me?

Thanks!
 
it's not "bidding." you are making an offer on a real estate contract.

one at a time is a better way to go.
 
I agree with Charles. If you make an offer on two contracts, be prepared to buy both if the sellers accept.
 

I called an agent today and made an offer for a BWV resale. My question is: can I bid on more than one at a time and see which bid is verbally accepted first?

If so, can I also go through two different brokers, as they each have their own listings that look good to me?

Thanks!

Technically, a buyer has the right to cancel out of the verbal offer (that happened to me). However, I would caution on doing it as most sellers get back to you in a reasonable time frame that I don't see it being necessary.

What you can do is give yourself a certain time frame to hear back from the first seller and if you don't have a deal by then, tell them you are moving on.
 
If you make two offers and both are accepted, you can be legally bound to complete both sales.
 
And if you back out of the contract, you will forfeit your deposit. Unless the seller holds you to the contract.

We had a contract to see on a smaller 50 point contract twice. The buyers backed out both times. We got half the deposit (the selling agent got the other half).
 
Exactly... because if you offer and they accept, it is a legally binding CONTRACT.
It's not a legal contract until both parties sign and money is on the table, even then, one has at least 10 days to back out in FL. The reality is that I doubt any resales meet the letter of the law for the 10 day rescission which would in effect give them a full year to cancel, technically and legally. However, I think it would be poor form to make 2 offers, just like I think it's poor form to cancel simply for a better contract as we discussed on DIS a month or 2 ago. IMO, a broker who knowingly participates in either scenario is not someone I'd consider honest even if it's technically legal. One can however structure multiple offers in such a way as to handle the contingencies and be honest up front about what's going on.
 
I see everyone's point. I was only considering such a thing in case my bid is rejected and this whole process starts to linger to the "danger zone." Don't want to risk not getting this done by 3/20. I will surely put this in any contract.

I wouldn't normally do such a thing as try to bid on two properties, but this deadline has me slightly nervous.

Thanks!
 
Then again, if you don't plan to make much use of the non-DVC properties (perhaps instead renting out reservations and using cash), then waiting for the price drop after 3/20 people hear are predicting might be best!

YMMV
 
I posted this on the other thread. Some clarification...

For the speculation about "Disney dragging their feet for the next two months and not moving on ROFR decisions".

I have a resale in progress via The Timeshare Store right now. ROFR was sent to Disney on 14 January (last Friday). I just spoke with TTS and they said Disney has told them, so long as the ROFR paperwork is with Disney by 20 March 2011, you're on the grandfathered side. You don't need to close by then or have your deed registered by OCC by then or have your points in the system by then, etc. Disney just needs to have the ROFR request on their desk. And this makes sense. Some people have resales that can't close until June or July 2011 because of seller's upcoming reservations. But Disney will honor all of these.

I made an offer on Wednesday and ROFR was put to Disney on Friday. It's a very quick process, so you need not hurry in finding the right contract that you want to purchase.
 
I posted this on the other thread. Some clarification...

For the speculation about "Disney dragging their feet for the next two months and not moving on ROFR decisions".

I have a resale in progress via The Timeshare Store right now. ROFR was sent to Disney on 14 January (last Friday). I just spoke with TTS and they said Disney has told them, so long as the ROFR paperwork is with Disney by 20 March 2011, you're on the grandfathered side. You don't need to close by then or have your deed registered by OCC by then or have your points in the system by then, etc. Disney just needs to have the ROFR request on their desk. And this makes sense. Some people have resales that can't close until June or July 2011 because of seller's upcoming reservations. But Disney will honor all of these.

I made an offer on Wednesday and ROFR was put to Disney on Friday. It's a very quick process, so you need not hurry in finding the right contract that you want to purchase.


Thank you for posting this! I had no idea. Makes me feel a lot better.
 
I posted this on the other thread. Some clarification...

For the speculation about "Disney dragging their feet for the next two months and not moving on ROFR decisions".

I have a resale in progress via The Timeshare Store right now. ROFR was sent to Disney on 14 January (last Friday). I just spoke with TTS and they said Disney has told them, so long as the ROFR paperwork is with Disney by 20 March 2011, you're on the grandfathered side. You don't need to close by then or have your deed registered by OCC by then or have your points in the system by then, etc. Disney just needs to have the ROFR request on their desk. And this makes sense. Some people have resales that can't close until June or July 2011 because of seller's upcoming reservations. But Disney will honor all of these.

I made an offer on Wednesday and ROFR was put to Disney on Friday. It's a very quick process, so you need not hurry in finding the right contract that you want to purchase.

But there were other posters who said that was not the case that they heard directly from Disney.
 
I just spoke with TTS and they said Disney has told them, so long as the ROFR paperwork is with Disney by 20 March 2011, you're on the grandfathered side.

Interesting; that could be nice for people who are considering starting the process. If true I wonder how many docs will arrive Friday March 18th by tracked overnight delivery services? ;) {Just to avoid potential issues with the 19th & 20th being weekend days and potentially not count as the papers "being with" the Mouse...}
 
Yes you can make two offers. I did it with full know of both agents. When the one I wanted accepted I just had to call the other one and cancel.
 
For the speculation about "Disney dragging their feet for the next two months and not moving on ROFR decisions".
A reminder about the ROFR wording. Many think it's 30 days but that's not technically the case. You must give them AT LEAST 30 days before closing but they could go over if you had a later closing date. If I were buying resale right now and the qualified points were important to me, I'd time it so that closing happened exactly at 30 days after the date that the info would have been received by DVC and I would send it to them with some type of acknowledgement. Technically one could then close and record even without a ROFR letter. I know this is not traditionally how it has been done but there is no requirement to have an acknowledgement or to record the ROFR itself, only to give them the opportunity.
 
one has at least 10 days to back out in FL. The reality is that I doubt any resales meet the letter of the law for the 10 day rescission which would in effect give them a full year to cancel, technically and legally.

Just curious & missed this earlier; I've read about the 10 day rescission regulations before, but how do you end up with a full year to cancel if they aren't followed? :confused3
 
Just curious & missed this earlier; I've read about the 10 day rescission regulations before, but how do you end up with a full year to cancel if they aren't followed? :confused3
There are certain requirements for the 10 day period to apply. IF these requirements are not met, you actually have a full year.

721.065Resale purchase agreements.—
(1)An owner who acquires a timeshare interest for her or his own use and occupancy and later offers it for resale, or any agent of such person, must utilize a resale purchase agreement which complies with the provisions of subsection (2) to effectuate any resale of the timeshare interest. A managing entity, not otherwise a developer, that sells, or engages a third party to sell on its behalf, 50 or fewer timeshare interests in the timeshare plan which it manages in a given calendar year to persons who are not existing purchasers of that timeshare plan may also use a resale purchase agreement which complies with subsection (2) in lieu of complying with the provisions of ss. 721.06-721.12 and 721.20. A managing entity, not otherwise a developer, that sells, or engages a third party to sell on its behalf, timeshare interests in the timeshare plan which it manages to persons who are existing purchasers of that timeshare plan may also use a resale purchase agreement in compliance with subsection (2) in lieu of complying with the provisions of ss. 721.06-721.12 and 721.20. For purposes of this subsection, a rebuttable presumption shall exist that an owner who has acquired more than seven timeshare interests did not acquire them for her or his own use and occupancy.
(2)Any resale purchase agreement utilized by a person described in subsection (1) must contain all of the following:
(a)The name and address of the timeshare plan and of the managing entity of the timeshare plan.
(b)One of the following statements in conspicuous type located immediately prior to the disclosure required by paragraph (c):
1.If the resale purchase agreement pertains to a real property timeshare plan:
The current year’s assessment for common expenses allocable to the timeshare interest you are purchasing is $ . This assessment, which may be increased from time to time by the managing entity of the timeshare plan, is payable in full each year on or before . This assessment (includes/does not include) yearly ad valorem real estate taxes, which (are/are not) billed and collected separately. (If ad valorem real property taxes are not included in the current year’s assessment for common expenses, the following statement must be included: The most recent annual assessment for ad valorem real estate taxes for the timeshare interest you are purchasing is $ .) (If there are any delinquent assessments for common expenses or ad valorem taxes outstanding with respect to the timeshare interest in question, the following statement must be included: A delinquency in the amount of $ for unpaid common expenses or ad valorem taxes currently exists with respect to the timeshare interest you are purchasing, together with a per diem charge of $ for interest and late charges.) For the purpose of ad valorem assessment, taxation, and special assessments, the managing entity will be considered the taxpayer as your agent pursuant to section 192.037, Florida Statutes. Each owner is personally liable for the payment of her or his assessments for common expenses, and failure to timely pay these assessments may result in restriction or loss of your use and/or ownership rights.
There are many important documents relating to the timeshare plan which you should review prior to purchasing a timeshare interest, including the declaration of condominium or covenants and restrictions; the owners’ association articles and bylaws; the current year’s operating and reserve budgets; and any rules and regulations affecting the use of timeshare plan accommodations and facilities.

2.If the resale purchase agreement pertains to a personal property timeshare plan:
The current year’s assessment for any common expenses, use charges, fees, or taxes allocable to the timeshare interest you are purchasing is $ . This assessment, which may be increased from time to time by the managing entity of the timeshare plan, is payable in full each year on or before . (If there are any delinquent assessments for common expenses, use charges, fees, or taxes outstanding with respect to the timeshare interest in question, the following statement must be included: A delinquency in the amount of $ for unpaid common expenses, use charges, fees, or taxes currently exists with respect to the timeshare interest you are purchasing, together with a per diem charge of $ for interest and late charges.) Each owner is personally liable for the payment of her or his assessments for common expenses, and failure to timely pay these assessments may result in restriction or loss of your use and/or ownership rights.
There are many important documents relating to the timeshare plan which you should review prior to purchasing a timeshare interest, including any owners’ association articles and bylaws; the current year’s operating and reserve budgets; and any rules and regulations affecting the use of timeshare plan accommodations and facilities.

(c)The following statement in conspicuous type located immediately prior to the space in the contract reserved for the signature of the purchaser:
You may cancel this contract without any penalty or obligation within 10 days after the date you sign this contract. If you decide to cancel this contract, you must notify the seller in writing of your intent to cancel. Your notice of cancellation shall be effective upon the date sent and shall be sent to the seller at (address) . Any attempt to obtain a waiver of your cancellation right is void and of no effect. While you may execute all closing documents in advance, the closing, as evidenced by delivery of the deed or other document, before expiration of your 10-day cancellation period, is prohibited.

(d)The year in which the purchaser will first be entitled to occupancy of a timeshare period associated with the timeshare interest that is the subject of the resale purchase agreement.
(3)If a resale purchase agreement utilized by a person described in subsection (1) does not comply with the provisions of subsection (2), the contract shall be voidable at the option of the purchaser for a period of 1 year after the date of closing.
 



















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