Can I ask all you conservative people a question?

[Disney Doll]

As a teenager, I do have to somewhat defend my generation.

First off, since most of y'all are talking about "narrowing the broad brush", I must say the same to you. Not all teenagers watch Family Guy, MTV, or listen to Stern. I am a 100% band geek, and my favorite channel is Disney (what else?). It's not ALL teenagers that watch that stuff. We have every right to be or own individuals.

Also, keep in mind that we are our own generation. We like our stuff, and you liked yours at our age. I'm sure your parents might have been shocked at some of the stuff you watched/listened to. Yes, I agree that society has in general gotten to be a little more riskay (sp?) about these things, but remember that a few years ago it was considered shocking to have two people in bed with each other on tv.

I'm not sure what brought that on, as I don't really see any references to specific age groups, but whatever. Is the OP a teenager?


My references were more toward liberal/conservative and political party.

I am well aware that what teeneagers like isn't going to be anywhere near what I like, LOL...

 

[poohandwendy]

Wow, excellent post Disney Doll. You always have such a way with words. Excellent points, well stated.

 

[kristen821]

As a teenager, I do have to somewhat defend my generation.

First off, since most of y'all are talking about "narrowing the broad brush", I must say the same to you. Not all teenagers watch Family Guy, MTV, or listen to Stern. I am a 100% band geek, and my favorite channel is Disney (what else?). It's not ALL teenagers that watch that stuff. We have every right to be or own individuals.

Also, keep in mind that we are our own generation. We like our stuff, and you liked yours at our age. I'm sure your parents might have been shocked at some of the stuff you watched/listened to. Yes, I agree that society has in general gotten to be a little more riskay (sp?) about these things, but remember that a few years ago it was considered shocking to have two people in bed with each other on tv.

In reply to the topic, why does it matter? They haven't done it yet. You can't complain about their beliefs when they are just that--beliefs. I am an on-the-fence, but my bff says that I disagree with pretty much everything. But back on topic. When the conservatives/republicans/fcc decides to ban or charge for certain tv channels or radio stations or cd's, you can go ahead and complain. But as of right now, I think we should all sit back and see what happens. Plenty of votes never leave Congress, and they have and equal number of conservatives and liberals voting on it.

This post makes me feel so old! I remember saying the same thing to my parents at your age!

 

[kristen821]

I'm not sure what brought that on, as I don't really see any references to specific age groups, but whatever. Is the OP a teenager?


My references were more toward liberal/conservative and political party.

I am well aware that what teeneagers like isn't going to be anywhere near what I like, LOL...

No he isn't a teen according to profile.

 

[TDC Nala]

I am independent leaning libertarian and don't think the government has any business deciding what people can and can't watch, EVER.

Why is the question geared to Republicans? If you think the Democrats won't try the same thing, you're wrong.

 

[Wishing on a star]

I am one of the posters who would be quick to point out that it is the actually the Democrats, and the liberals, like the ACLU, who are like rabid dogs when it comes to enforcing their liberal views. Political Correctness run amok is the very culmination of the liberals in Government telling us what we cannot say, how we should think, and feel, etc...

Now, we can't say "Merry Christmas"... But yet Howard Stern can spout his filth, and that is what should be protected

Just a reality check to the OP here.


PS: edited to add... Having said that, as long is it is Pay Media, which is the marketing of a legal commodity, then the Government has no business interfering.

 

[DisneyTarheel]

Still true as long as it's something conservatives support.

I suspect you could reverse that and apply it to liberals with equal accuracy on issues they don't support. I sometimes find myself sitting in the middle shaking my head at both sides.

 

[N.Bailey]

In today's world, we have moms getting men to engage their kids with sex because moms feel it's just time for their 13 year olds. We have moms hiring porn stars (almost) for their son's parties. We have men raping kids for 4 years and end up getting 60 days in jail. We have men who are killing their wives, raping their daughters AND their sons. We have pedophiles running amok in our streets. We have men brutally raping and then murdering our wives, our daughters, our granddaughters, our sisters, our brothers, our sons, our cousins, our grandsons, yada, yada, yada.......

Then you want to try and say no one should have a say in what you watch? Do you realize how many of these men have porn on their computers when they're arrested? Don't even go the route that this crap isn't playing a major role in all of the above. Sure, what may be innocent fun to one, isn't always so innocent to the next one that happens by.

 

[JennyMominRI]

In today's world, we have moms getting men to engage their kids with sex because moms feel it's just time for their 13 year olds. We have moms hiring porn stars (almost) for their son's parties. We have men raping kids for 4 years and end up getting 60 days in jail. We have men who are killing their wives, raping their daughters AND their sons. We have pedophiles running amok in our streets. We have men brutally raping and then murdering our wives, our daughters, our granddaughters, our sisters, our brothers, our sons, our cousins, our grandsons, yada, yada, yada.......

Then you want to try and say no one should have a say in what you watch? Do you realize how many of these men have porn on their computers when they're arrested? Don't even go the route that this crap isn't playing a major role in all of the above. Sure, what may be innocent fun to one, isn't always so innocent to the next one that happens by.

You do realize this stuff has gone on for thousands of years,well before people could watch porn on TV or computer? Long before the evil liberals took hold. So what was the reason then?

 

[cardaway]

The oldest profession, as in long before computers.

 

[N.Bailey]

You do realize this stuff has gone on for thousands of years,well before people could watch porn on TV or computer? Long before the evil liberals took hold. So what was the reason then?

It's certainly not the reason for it all and I never claimed it was. Do I need to pull the statistics up that back the assertion that these things are on the rise and have been for quite some time?

 

[JennyMominRI]

It's certainly not the reason for it all and I never claimed it was. Do I need to pull the statistics up that back the assertion that these things are on the rise and have been for quite some time?

You understand that the reson these things are on the rise are because it's only recent ,in historical tems,that these things have been against the law,and because people are mor eopen about things like this(sexual abuse,rape) people are more likely to report this.. 50 years ago raping your wife wasn't even a crime.. A few hundred years ago postitution was legal in many places and chidren were married off like chattel when they were 12 to dirty old men . Rape, murder , molestation, child prostitution were the norm all over this planet for millenium .. Seriel molestors/killers have been around throughout history, only now sometimes we have the ability to catch them..It doesn't mean serial killings are on the rise,it means we have better means of identifying them and catching them

 

[N.Bailey]

It's certainly not the reason for it all and I never claimed it was. Do I need to pull the statistics up that back the assertion that these things are on the rise and have been for quite some time?

Just for the record, before he died, even Bundy said society will never get a handle on the killings until it deals with the porn issue.

 

[TDC Nala]

According to the Department of Justice, violent crime rates are actually declining.

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance.htm#Crime

 

[debloco]

I agree with you on this.

However, to my understanding, ABC/NBC/CBS, etc. do NOT own the airwaves they broadcast on. I believe it is the government that owns/is in charge of/has power over the broadcast airwaves. If so, they have EVERY RIGHT to set rules and regulations regarding content on the broadcast airwaves.

The problem is, the FCC has never been forthcoming with the rules and regulations! It seems a little too subjective in my opinion.

I remember learning about the FCC and how it came about in an Introduction to Mass Communications class in college. Unfortunately, I no longer have that textbook to look up the information on standards (sold it back to the bookstore for $) but I googled FCC and was able to find the website easily.

http://www.fcc.gov/

So I would have to disagree that the FCC "has never been forthcoming with the rules and regulations".

 

[cardaway]

http://www.fcc.gov/

So I would have to disagree that the FCC "has never been forthcoming with the rules and regulations".

Which would be the gold standard for vagueness if the FDA didn't have them beat.

 

[N.Bailey]

You understand that the reson these things are on the rise are because it's only recent ,in historical tems,that these things have been against the law,and because people are mor eopen about things like this(sexual abuse,rape) people are more likely to report this.. 50 years ago raping your wife wasn't even a crime.. A few hundred years ago postitution was legal in many places and chidren were married off like chattel when they were 12 to dirty old men . Rape, murder , molestation, child prostitution were the norm all over this planet for millenium .. Seriel molestors/killers have been around throughout history, only now sometimes we have the ability to catch them..It doesn't mean serial killings are on the rise,it means we have better means of identifying them and catching them

Well, why don't you back that up then? Show me that we aren't dealing with more murders (because that can be proven and not hid) than in past times? It's easy to say because it's always been it always will be and nothing we do contributes. I'll give that a certain portion of our population, the Bundy's, the Son of Sam's, the Jack the Ripper's, the Boston Strangler's, the BTK's etc.... really didn't need much to put them over the edge. IMO, these types are just pure evil. This type of brutality has always been and will always be. There is simply no way of getting inside their heads to really understand what's going on in there. I don't think there is anyway society can begin to understand their way of thinking either. There simply isn't much you're going to do to stop these types of killers except catching them early so they do the least amount of damage possible. The Peterson's, the Westerfield's, the Joseph P. Smith cases, etc.... may not have ever occurred had these men had no access to porn. Can I prove that? No, but that doesn't mean it's not a significant contributing factor in all of these cases and thousands more just like them. And porn has been directly linked to all of them and I could site case after case to back that up too. I'd hope we can conclude that there are way more Peterson's out there than Jack the Ripper's too.

 

[N.Bailey]

According to the Department of Justice, violent crime rates are actually declining.

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance.htm#Crime

In this argument, you might want to look to a time before the '90s? JMOO though.

 

[TDC Nala]

1993 was 13 years ago. How far back do you want?

All the serial killers you named were operative in the 70s and 80s except the Boston Strangler (60s). And if you are talking about Scott Peterson, a guy who knocks off his wife isn't the same thing as a serial killer.

 

[N.Bailey]

1993 was 13 years ago. How far back do you want?

Well let's see, when did Jack the Ripper walk the earth? We're comparing BEFORE any porn was available to since it has been to see if there is a correlation. I think we can conclude that there was porn 13 years ago.