Calling all Princesses! (2014 Princess half marathon board)

[charmed1212]

Does anyone know if you can submit a 5k time for the 10k race? I am hoping to not be in the back.

Also, is there a place that I can see what the corral time spread will be?

Thanks!!

 

[afnaechiquita]

My next piece of advice is do not get hung up on the interval guidance found on the runD site. I can tell you that Jeff once ran 6-8 minutes between walks, not the really short interval preached today. I would suggest based on this question that you look at a little shorter interval for your long runs... one that is easily done on race day. Run a mile then walk a minute. It's so simple in a race you run to the mile marker and then walk.

yes, yes. i've found the very best motivator in a race for me is "once i get to the mile marker, i can walk a little." or "once i get to the water station, i can walk a little." i know the shorter intervals work for a lot of people, but everyone is different.

of course, now where i live, the races almost never have valid markers and the water stations are very sparse

 

[afnaechiquita]

Does anyone know if you can submit a 5k time for the 10k race? I am hoping to not be in the back.

Also, is there a place that I can see what the corral time spread will be?

Thanks!!

i'm not sure about your first question, but for the second, not really. you have to think about the fact that everyone will be submitting times up until the cut-off, so rundisney won't really be able to show what the spread will be until after everyone has submitted.

i can say that in 2012 i submitted an 11:11 m/m pace from a 15k and was placed in corral c.

 

[Cripey]

Just wanted to give a tip that I recently found a FB group for buying/selling running gear you don't want/need anymore...I see a lot of good deals go through there! I actually just posted my first "for sale" last night. Anyway, just thought I'd post in case anyone is looking to maybe spruce up their running wardrobe without spending too much or needs a new gadget (i've seen several garmins on there in the last couple of weeks!) It's a closed group, so you have to request to join, but I was added within a day or two when I requested. I'm personally not affiliated with them, nor do I personally know anyone there, just thought it was a great idea (If you happen to be looking for some super clean, very lightly used Asics Nimbus or Brooks Pure Cadence both size 8.5...you should head over there...or PM me!!! )

Going to post this over on the Tink Half board too, sorry if ya read it twice!

 

[cewait]

Does anyone know if you can submit a 5k time for the 10k race? I am hoping to not be in the back.

Also, is there a place that I can see what the corral time spread will be?

Thanks!!

The 10k is seeded based on the time estimated at entry. There is no need for proof of time.

Once the January half program and waivers come out, we should have a good idea of how the corrals will look. There will be a few differences between the races, but we will have a general idea.

 

[PrincessV]

But I guess intervals are generally faster than just a straight long distance run, right?

It's not so much a matter of being faster, though than does happen to some, as one of minimizing exertion to keep you going longer. The idea is that by inserting walk breaks at regular intervals from the start, you use different muscle groups and keep your heart rate a bit lower, enabling you to go a longer distance more comfortably. For most people, it means being able to finish strong and not feel so beat up that they can't enjoy the rest of the day. Galloway explains it pretty thoroughly here.

Don't forget when you go outside for your runs to put on sunscreen...arms, legs, neck, chest and face. Tomorrow I get to have a basal cell carcinoma taken off my upper chest. A very treatable skin cancer but none-the-less I will be even more diligent now.

Yikes! I'm glad you caught it and it's easily treatable!

So, I am doing intervals. Right now I am running 3 min and walking 1. My problem is I think I am walking to slow. How do I make sure I am walking fast enough during the walk part? I run out side. Run keeper is saying that I am walking about 20:30 mile...my running part is about 15 min a mile. Any advice?

Well, Galloway advises that walk breaks should be on the slower side. But I found things worked a lot better for me by spending some time working on a faster walking pace, in addition to a faster run. One way to work on speed in both running and walking is to increase your cadence - count how many steps your right (or left) foot takes in 1 minute. Your goal is to be around 90 steps (180 strides) per minute. Decrease your stride length and increase turnover. You may be surprised at how much easier it feels to go faster!

Just wanted to give a tip that I recently found a FB group for buying/selling running gear you don't want/need anymore...I see a lot of good deals go through there! I actually just posted my first "for sale" last night. Anyway, just thought I'd post in case anyone is looking to maybe spruce up their running wardrobe without spending too much or needs a new gadget (i've seen several garmins on there in the last couple of weeks!)

Thanks for posting - I have some gear to unload!

 

[flatlandcycle]

Does anyone know if you can submit a 5k time for the 10k race? I am hoping to not be in the back.

Also, is there a place that I can see what the corral time spread will be?

Thanks!!

Last year's corral pdf is still active:

http://as1.wdpromedia.com/media/rundisney/pdf/princess/CorralAssignmentsPRN.pdf

 

[Cripey]

Thanks for posting - I have some gear to unload!

I'm thinking I may go through my nearly overflowing "workout wear" drawers this weekend and post some more stuff too!

I've been wondering how ToT went for you...going to check out your blog post now

 

[DVCFan1994]

The 10k is seeded based on the time estimated at entry. There is no need for proof of time.

Once the January half program and waivers come out, we should have a good idea of how the corrals will look. There will be a few differences between the races, but we will have a general idea.

As someone who can always find a detail to stress over, I am wondering, if I gave an estimate at registration for GSC will the proof of time you send in automatically translate to both races? Or is it important to specify you are doing both races somehow? I have been worrying that when I send proof of time in a few weeks it will be connected to the PHM because that needs proof of time, but because the 10k does not require it they'll go with my estimate at registration which was 3:20 for the half because the stupid form wouldn't let me put in N/A.

 

[flatlandcycle]

As someone who can always find a detail to stress over, I am wondering, if I gave an estimate at registration for GSC will the proof of time you send in automatically translate to both races? Or is it important to specify you are doing both races somehow? I have been worrying that when I send proof of time in a few weeks it will be connected to the PHM because that needs proof of time, but because the 10k does not require it they'll go with my estimate at registration which was 3:20 for the half because the stupid form wouldn't let me put in N/A.

If Goofy is any indication, the 10k corrals will be seeded using the proper pace calculations for each distance. It wouldn't hurt to say, in your email to track shack, that you are running much faster than predicted, at registration, and would like to move up in the 10k and 1/2 marathon.

You might like this pace calculator from runnnersworld:
http://www.runnersworld.com/tools/race-times-predictor

Why 3:20 estimate? You seem like you could easily run sub 2:30-2:10 in the Half, especially if you are taking it easy on the long runs.

Good luck in your 10k.

 

[DVCFan1994]

If Goofy is any indication, the 10k corrals will be seeded using the proper pace calculations for each distance. It wouldn't hurt to say, in your email to track shack, that you are running much faster than predicted, at registration, and would like to move up in the 10k and 1/2 marathon.

You might like this pace calculator from runnnersworld:
http://www.runnersworld.com/tools/race-times-predictor

Why 3:20 estimate? You seem like you could easily run sub 2:30-2:10 in the Half, especially if you are taking it easy on the long runs.

Good luck in your 10k.

My browser and active.com don't like each other I tried not putting a time and writing not applicable, it told me there was an error on the page and it would not let me submit it. I tried putting a true estimate, but it would not let me do that without providing a race name and official time. I was panicked about the race selling out so I quickly typed 3:20, which was above the proof of time threshold but allowed me to submit my registration.

I would hope to run faster than 3:20. But who knows? So far, as my run length has increased, my pace has stayed within 30 seconds of my short run pace, but I've only gotten to 6 miles. So I am comfortable saying I hope to keep my 10k under an hour, but I still don't feel comfortable actually predicting what will happen in the half. I used the calculator you suggested and got 2:12 as a prediction.

To be honest, I just want to finish without seeing the balloon lady and have fun along the way. I see getting a decent corral placement as a way to ensure I have time to enjoy the atmosphere of the race.

 

[Caitsmama]

have they ever opened up more slots for the race? I booked a trip to FL in Feb and would have loved to do another disney race, but it's sold out... same with the 10k, i would have loved either one.. i know i can do the 5k, but was hoping for a slot in one of the others..
Just wondering if they ever release more spots?

 

[kappyfamily]

My browser and active.com don't like each other I tried not putting a time and writing not applicable, it told me there was an error on the page and it would not let me submit it. I tried putting a true estimate, but it would not let me do that without providing a race name and official time. I was panicked about the race selling out so I quickly typed 3:20, which was above the proof of time threshold but allowed me to submit my registration.

I would hope to run faster than 3:20. But who knows? So far, as my run length has increased, my pace has stayed within 30 seconds of my short run pace, but I've only gotten to 6 miles. So I am comfortable saying I hope to keep my 10k under an hour, but I still don't feel comfortable actually predicting what will happen in the half. I used the calculator you suggested and got 2:12 as a prediction.

To be honest, I just want to finish without seeing the balloon lady and have fun along the way. I see getting a decent corral placement as a way to ensure I have time to enjoy the atmosphere of the race.

I think it's very safe to say if you running under an hour for a 10k you will be no where near the sweeper for a half. I do around 1:17 10ks and I never saw her at the princess 2 years ago. You are good, relax and enjoy it!

 

[rosemom1313]

Actually, this is not an uncommon spread in pace. I would counsel working one of you weekday runs at a track. Warm up for 10 minutes then run one lap fast - at a level of effort where you may not be able to say more than 2-3 words per breath and where you feel like you could not go another half lap. Then walk for the same amount of time and then run another lap. The first week do 4-5 intervals and add an interval a week until you consume a full hour at the track. The issue is that your average pace is probably in the 17 minute range at this interval and you need to increase overall pace. No panic, there is lots of time to do this Hope this helps.

Thanks! I will try that for sure...yes I am averaging about 17 min a mile and I am concerned

 

[11point5]

I started doing 6 min run/2 min walk and just felt like I ran a lot faster during each of the 6 min runs. This can be adjusted to whatever works for you. My sis in law a long time runner and ran as long as she could then would walk, tried 3 minute run/2 minute walk and she pr'ed her last half. She's a 11 min miler. She just ran much much faster during her running segments. So play around with it. I just feel so much better once I get to mile 10 with during intervals.

Thanks for sharing these experiences! Intervals seem to work well for so many runners here on the DIS, I'm finally starting to look forward to trying out a few different options to see what works best for me instead of being resistant like I have been for the past few weeks. Really glad I came and asked for advice instead of just guessing my way through training now that distances are getting longer!

Physiologically and mentally, you need to start with a consistent interval. Running until you need a walk break may work in a shorter race or run but once distances go long, it is extremely tough to restart the run, especially if the first break is only when you feel the need to walk.

Thanks Coach, I think this was exactly what I needed to hear! I'm sure set intervals will take some getting used to but I like the idea of still being able to walk happily after the race is over so I'll have to give them a try!

yes, yes. i've found the very best motivator in a race for me is "once i get to the mile marker, i can walk a little." or "once i get to the water station, i can walk a little." i know the shorter intervals work for a lot of people, but everyone is different.

of course, now where i live, the races almost never have valid markers and the water stations are very sparse

Oh how frustrating! Maybe you'll just have to move closer to Disney! I like the idea of run a mile then walk __mins, I'm going to try that out today!

It's not so much a matter of being faster, though than does happen to some, as one of minimizing exertion to keep you going longer. The idea is that by inserting walk breaks at regular intervals from the start, you use different muscle groups and keep your heart rate a bit lower, enabling you to go a longer distance more comfortably. For most people, it means being able to finish strong and not feel so beat up that they can't enjoy the rest of the day. Galloway explains it pretty thoroughly here.

Thank you for that link, I can't believe I haven't stumbled upon his explanation until now!! A very helpful read, and makes so much sense. My top priority is being able to enjoy the rest of the day/week after finishing GSC (okay, I guess my top priority is finishing!) so I'll definitely need to start experimenting with intervals.

 

[charmed1212]

i'm not sure about your first question, but for the second, not really. you have to think about the fact that everyone will be submitting times up until the cut-off, so rundisney won't really be able to show what the spread will be until after everyone has submitted. i can say that in 2012 i submitted an 11:11 m/m pace from a 15k and was placed in corral c.

Thank you.

 

[charmed1212]

The 10k is seeded based on the time estimated at entry. There is no need for proof of time. Once the January half program and waivers come out, we should have a good idea of how the corrals will look. There will be a few differences between the races, but we will have a general idea.

I don't remember putting in a time when I registered. Hmmmm...... :/

 

[Figment1990]

I don't remember putting in a time when I registered. Hmmmm...... :/

I remember putting in a time for the half but not for the 10k and my proof of time was a half. I plan to submit a 10k time in November unless I manage to run a really fast wine and dine half. I haven't received an email from run disney that they got my updated proof of time for tinker bell half yet though and tht is making me nervous!

 

[cewait]

I don't remember putting in a time when I registered. Hmmmm...... :/

You did... You were asked about your pace. No proof required

If part of the GSC, the pace is pulled off of your estimated half time

 

[kateface517]

I'm counting down the days. I loved this race! Here's hoping I don't trip on Mile 1 and bleed the rest of the race like last year...

Trying to decide on which color tutu to make for 2014. Making the tutu is half the fun!