Calling all Creationists!

[Dolce27]

Add me as a yup.

 

[blu3d3vil]

Because it happens to be a fact.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/library/faq/cat02.html

LOL

 

[Laura]

LOL

From your cite


A belief is not a fact, it is a belief. Same as those that do not believe it.

I don't care for the choices in the poll. I support and intellegent design concept that involves both creationism and evolution.

We do know for a fact that we didn't evolve from apes and monkeys, it's called the genetic code. The Missing Link has yet to be found, but scientists didn't come up with the notion out of thin air, it's not a belief that comes from faith like religious beliefs. If either of you have scientific proof that we evolved from apes, I'd like to see it.

Evolution is, unfortunately to some's perspectives, a scientific fact. The theory of evolution is the explanation for how evolution occurs.

 

[MontanaZoo]

Interesting...lots of differing opinions from different Christians. My thinking is, if you guys all, once and for all, sat down and decided on one book to follow, you all could get on board with the same story...

Christians are different. It's one of those shades of gray things, kind of like evolution and creationism. Are all people who are non-Christian exactly the same?

 

[blu3d3vil]

We do know for a fact that we didn't evolve from apes and monkeys, it's called the genetic code. The Missing Link has yet to be found, but scientists didn't come up with the notion out of thin air, it's not a belief that comes from faith like religious beliefs. If either of you have scientific proof that we evolved from apes, I'd like to see it.

I think many evolutionists would disagree with you on this point.

Evolution is, unfortunately to some's perspectives, a scientific fact. The theory of evolution is the explanation for how evolution occurs.

"Theory" being the key word.

 

[PlainJane]

We were dropped here by aliens. The whole "Jesus", "Moses and the burning bush", and all the other religions are a product of the aliens trying to get us humans to stop acting like idiots.
They keep sending more signs but we are too stupid to comprehend it.

Starting to think Scientology is the way to go.

Somehow, I had it in me to answer honestly, without mocking anyone.

 

[Nik's Mom]

I am not a literalist. I don't believe in the inerrant truth of the Bible.
I'll go a step further and say that most people don't -even many who claim to.
The Bible is full of contradictions and things that are difficult to interpret it is almost impossible to believe in every word it says.

I believe in God, I believe that Jesus Christ Died for me -but I don't get too het up about creationism.

Totally agree with you.

 

[AndyLL]

I think many evolutionists would disagree with you on this point.


"Theory" being the key word.

Scientific Theory

In scientific usage, a theory does not mean an unsubstantiated guess or hunch, as it can in everyday speech. A theory is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a related set of natural or social phenomena. It originates from or is supported by rigorous observations in the natural world, or by experimental evidence (see scientific method). In this sense, a theory is a systematic and formalized expression of all previous observations, and is predictive, logical, and testable. In principle, scientific theories are always tentative, and subject to corrections, inclusion in a yet wider theory, or succession. Commonly, many more specific hypotheses may be logically bound together by just one or two theories. As a rule for use of the term, theories tend to deal with much broader sets of universals than do hypotheses, which ordinarily deal with much more specific sets of phenomena or specific applications of a theory.

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Intelligent Design is niether Predictive or testable ( or logical to most people ) therefore it is not a scientific theory but faith.

Andy

 

[c4a]

Uncle Remus...SCORES!!!!!!

I believe in Creationalism evolved. I don't know and I don't think that it is relevant when the earth was formed. I just know that it was. I don't believe it was done in 7 literal days...the bible (and St. Peter) tells me that a day=1,000 years. I believe 4,000 of those years (since the dawn of man) were used in the Old Testament times, and we have used almost 2,000 of those years in the New Testament time. The final 1,000years will be a time of rest (Jesus sitting on the Throne of Judgement and Mercy). As the bible says.

I believe that Jesus is THE prophetic heir, Messiah, died on the cross & by rising from the dead has cleansed me from sin, and he WILL soon be back in glory. The Levites (Jews) are returned to their proper homeland (Isreal), the temple is being made ready, the area of the dead sea will tremble, the armies will battle at Meggido...it is just a matter of time.

As Christians, by allowing...
*the Ten Commandments to be taken out of our goverment buildings,
*prayer taken out of our schools (even quite reflection time),
*the end of the Pledge of Allegience because it mentions "God"...
we have given the impression that we were just "turning the other cheek" and laying down without a fight. When in reality...we have just been busy putting on the FULL battle armor found in Ephesians 6:10-20

WORST case scenerio for me-the atheist will be right...and the worms will crawl in, & the worms will crawl out...and play pinocle on my snout.

Worst case scenerio for the UNBELIEVERS-eternal hellfire and damnnation...and that isn't something "stop, drop, and roll" is going to fix.

 

[Master Mason]

We do know for a fact that we didn't evolve from apes and monkeys, it's called the genetic code. The Missing Link has yet to be found, but scientists didn't come up with the notion out of thin air, it's not a belief that comes from faith like religious beliefs. If either of you have scientific proof that we evolved from apes, I'd like to see it.

Evolution is, unfortunately to some's perspectives, a scientific fact. The theory of evolution is the explanation for how evolution occurs.

Again, it is a belief, partially backed up by science, but it is still simply a belief. Religous theories are also beliefs, backed up by nothing but faith, but a belief none the less.

Facts which is the word you used are varifiable. However, they have not verified anything, they are taking their best guess, so don't present something that is a belief or a theory as fact and expect to get a pass on it.

 

[Laura]

I think many evolutionists would disagree with you on this point.

Scientists simply don't postulate that we evolved from apes, no matter what you think--hence my link to the PBS evolution FAQ. If you can find any reputable scientists who do, I'd love to know about it.

"Theory" being the key word.

If you want to have a scientifically-based argument against the theory of evolution, you need to understand two things: 1) what the theory of evolution states and 2) the basic terms used in science, such as a theory. So far, you've only demonstrated your ignorance in both.

Again, it is a belief, partially backed up by science, but it is still simply a belief. Religous theories are also beliefs, backed up by nothing but faith, but a belief none the less.

Facts which is the word you used are varifiable. However, they have not verified anything, they are taking their best guess, so don't present something that is a belief or a theory as fact and expect to get a pass on it.

Evolution is an observed and observable scientific fact. Also, theories generally don't become laws in the science world, nor are they just made up. And I'm not interested in clarifying for you how different science is from faith, it should be quite obvious.


I don't care whether people think the earth is 6000 years old or billions and billions. It's nothing to me, as long as you don't try to pass off a young earth creation myth as scientific and try to teach it in science class.

 

[Master Mason]

Scientists simply don't postulate that we evolved from apes, no matter what you think--hence my link to the PBS evolution FAQ. If you can find any reputable scientists who do, I'd love to know about it.



If you want to have a scientifically-based argument against the theory of evolution, you need to understand two things: 1) what the theory of evolution states and 2) the basic terms used in science, such as a theory. So far, you've only demonstrated your ignorance in both.



I don't care whether people think the earth is 6000 years old or billions and billions. It's nothing to me, as long as you don't try to pass off a young earth creation myth as scientific and try to teach it in science class.

And as stated before, it is a theory, it is not a fact, not matter how much you wish to think that it is.

As for the last statement, I agree with you, it is not a subject for science, but rather compartitive religion.

 

[Laura]

Scientific Theory

In scientific usage, a theory does not mean an unsubstantiated guess or hunch, as it can in everyday speech. A theory is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a related set of natural or social phenomena. It originates from or is supported by rigorous observations in the natural world, or by experimental evidence (see scientific method). In this sense, a theory is a systematic and formalized expression of all previous observations, and is predictive, logical, and testable. In principle, scientific theories are always tentative, and subject to corrections, inclusion in a yet wider theory, or succession. Commonly, many more specific hypotheses may be logically bound together by just one or two theories. As a rule for use of the term, theories tend to deal with much broader sets of universals than do hypotheses, which ordinarily deal with much more specific sets of phenomena or specific applications of a theory.

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Intelligent Design is niether Predictive or testable ( or logical to most people ) therefore it is not a scientific theory but faith.

Andy

Thank you, Andy.

 

[Bobbysdog]

"Theory" being the key word.

So how's the Theory of Gravity working out for you?

With respect, whenever one of these threads comes along, someone always posts something that indicates a misunderstanding of the two different usages of "theory" when used both in and out of the scientific community.

 

[Master Mason]

Evolution is an observed and observable scientific fact. Also, theories generally don't become laws in the science world, nor are they just made up. And I'm not interested in clarifying for you how different science is from faith, it should be quite obvious.

Things that are proven, become laws, until that time they are theories, which means that they are best guesses. Best guesses are not facts.

And as I said before, I do believe that evolution has taken place, never deny it. My faith dictates to me what caused the intial creation, and directed the subsequent evolution. Your free to have another explination, but your explination is just as much of a belief as mine since they have not proven what caused the initial creation, or evolution.

 

[Mikelly1221]

Here I am! Another staunch creationist checking in!

 

[Master Mason]

So how's the Theory of Gravity working out for you?

With respect, whenever one of these threads comes along, someone always posts something that indicates a misunderstanding of the two different usages of "theory" when used both in and out of the scientific community.

Gravity sucks.....

But really it works out great since it is Newton's Law of Gravity....

 

[Laura]

And as stated before, it is a theory, it is not a fact, not matter how much you wish to think that it is.

It's not my idea that evolution is a scientific fact, but as much as you might wish to think it isn't, you're wrong. The theory of evolution, as I said, describes how evolution works, it doesn't postulate whether evolution exists.

You might want to read this:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/library/faq/cat01.html#Q01

As I stated above to another poster, "If you want to have a scientifically-based argument against the theory of evolution, you need to understand two things: 1) what the theory of evolution states and 2) the basic terms used in science, such as a theory. So far, you've only demonstrated your ignorance in both."

 

[c4a]

So how's the Theory of Gravity working out for you?

With respect, whenever one of these threads comes along, someone always posts something that indicates a misunderstanding of the two different usages of "theory" when used both in and out of the scientific community.

Sorry-but that should have been "So, how's the LAW OF GRAVITY working out for you?" Gravity is able to be proven 100% by a mathmatical equation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton's_law_of_universal_gravitation
http://zebu.uoregon.edu/~soper/Orbits/newtongrav.html

The theory of Evolution is not.

 

[WonderfulDreamer2]

So how's the Theory of Gravity working out for you?
With respect, whenever one of these threads comes along, someone always posts something that indicates a misunderstanding of the two different usages of "theory" when used both in and out of the scientific community.

Ummm, I thought that was "Newtons Law of Universal Gravitation".