Buying an extension?

[Sandisw]

That would be very interesting. If they did that, the layouts of BRV and CCV are pretty different. I wonder if they would either refurbished to match, or if they would class them differently and have different points.

Just thinking about the studio BRV sleeping 5 vs studio CCV sleeping 4.

I think if they did, then yes, they would have to consider all of that. There would be nothing to require them to keep the BRV studios at 5 and if they did do something like this, my guess would be the new rooms would match CCV.

 

[irazabul]

OKW extension was, in a word, a cluster.

Lawyers, uncertainty, a mess. There are still a lot of people who never paid for it and never quitclaimed it, and it's not really clear what will happen at the end: https://www.disboards.com/threads/dvcs-old-key-west-extension-ordeal.3078317/

I highly doubt any resort will ever get another extension. Why would they anyway? Point charts are escalating quickly, and they can just throw some paint on something and resell it.

By 2042, the BRV and CCV charts will be looking very outdated. I don't see why they would sell more into those outdated charts.

Wow, I've been in DVC all this time and somehow missed this controversy with OKW? I do remember the extension offering but hadn't realized the mess of it. I was looking at OKW resale back then and I recall doing the math and ending up buying more SSR, strictly because the prices were only a few dollars difference on resale.

 

[_auroraborealis_]

Regardless of if you think of it as new contracts or legit extension of old, it is a surety that they don't be $15pp.

 

[Ginamarie]

I highly doubt Disney will give anyone a special discount for anything.

They already give members a discount when buying new points (I just used that when buying my direct Riviera contract). I think it will be something similar.

 

[Deb & Bill]

I think if they did, then yes, they would have to consider all of that. There would be nothing to require them to keep the BRV studios at 5 and if they did do something like this, my guess would be the new rooms would match CCV.

They would call the BRV studios, studio plus (like in the old days at BWV when they had that little bench day bed). One bedrooms will be called One Bedroom Plus. They can ask more points for each of those.

 

[DebbieB]

I’ll be 82 when BWV expires and 100 for VGC, no extensions for me.

 

[Sandisw]

They would call the BRV studios, studio plus (like in the old days at BWV when they had that little bench day bed). One bedrooms will be called One Bedroom Plus. They can ask more points for each of those.

That could work then!

 

[CarolynFH]

They would call the BRV studios, studio plus (like in the old days at BWV when they had that little bench day bed).

I’m so glad you wrote that! I knew that on our first stay at BWV, in 1996, we had a studio with two queen beds and a little day bed where our DD slept. It was great for us, having a son and daughter who couldn’t share a bed. Do you have any idea when they changed all studios to the bed/foldout couch configuration?

 

[CarolMN]

I’m so glad you wrote that! I knew that on our first stay at BWV, in 1996, we had a studio with two queen beds and a little day bed where our DD slept. It was great for us, having a son and daughter who couldn’t share a bed. Do you have any idea when they changed all studios to the bed/foldout couch configuration?

AFAIK, BWV studios never had two queen beds. They had/have 1 queen bed and a double sleep sofa. The dedicated studios also had a daybed. The fold down bed under the TV came with the 2015-16 refurb. No day beds after that.

Maybe you were thinking of the BWI rooms? Those have two queen beds and a daybed (at least some of the Inn rooms have day beds).

 

[CarolynFH]

AFAIK, BWV studios never had two queen beds. They had/have 1 queen bed and a double sleep sofa. The dedicated studios also had a daybed. The fold down bed under the TV came with the 2015-16 refurb. No day beds after that.

Maybe you were thinking of the BWI rooms? Those have two queen beds and a daybed (at least some of the Inn rooms have day beds).

Nope, it was a BWV studio, Thanksgiving week 1996, for cash. It was a very long walk down the hallway, with multiple turns, and our balcony overlooked the front driveway. We definitely had two queens, because DS slept in one and we had the other, with DD in the daybed. I’m pretty sure it was a dedicated studio but not sure. Maybe having two queens plus daybed was what @Deb & Bill called a “studio plus”? And maybe it was modeled on the BWI rooms? The next time we stayed at BWV was Thanksgiving 1998 in a 2 bedroom, but we brought friends with us and I didn’t go in the studio side, so can’t remember the configuration!

 

[CarolMN]

We stayed in several studio plus villas and all had one queen, the double sleep sofa and the small daybed. But we've only owned since 1999, so maybe something changed between 1996 & 1999. None of the 2 bedrooms(all are lock offs at BWV) had a daybed, because the daybed was where the connecting door was placed. Day beds were only in the dedicated studios.

 

[CarolynFH]

We stayed in several studio plus villas and all had one queen, the double sleep sofa and the small daybed. But we've only owned since 1999, so maybe something changed between 1996 & 1999. None of the 2 bedrooms(all are lock offs at BWV) had a daybed, because the daybed was where the connecting door was placed. Day beds were only in the dedicated studios.

Yes, maybe so. I don't remember being made aware of any changes, but then again in the late 90s we didn't have access to so much information! Hopefully Deb @Deb & Bill will help us figure this out - it was really driving me crazy to have such a difference between my memory of that first BWV (cash) stay in 1996 and the current studios!

 

[PurdueTodd]

I might buy back in (if I'm still alive), but ONLY if I get a free DVC backpack.

Lol, I’ve got two, they weren’t free.

 

[ScubaCat]

Lol, I’ve got two, they weren’t free.

Forgot the quotes. "free"

 

[Deb & Bill]

The first time we stayed at BWV was in 2000 and we had a Studio Plus. Our son was seven and he refused to sleep on the deacon's bench bed. So he got to sleep in the queen bed with me and Bill slept on the double sleeper sofa.

 

[CarolynFH]

The first time we stayed at BWV was in 2000 and we had a Studio Plus. Our son was seven and he refused to sleep on the deacon's bench bed. So he got to sleep in the queen bed with me and Bill slept on the double sleeper sofa.

Okay, so at some point between Nov. 1996 and 2000 they switched out a queen bed for a sleeper sofa in the dedicated studios! Maybe somebody older than us will come along and solve the mystery!

 

[CarolMN]

Okay, so at some point between Nov. 1996 and 2000 they switched out a queen bed for a sleeper sofa in the dedicated studios! Maybe somebody older than us will come along and solve the mystery!

I still think you were in one of the hotel rooms - the Inn also has the long twisty halls and one elevator bank. Is it possible that the Villas were overbooked and you were just assigned to the Inn side? Especially if you paid cash for the room, that seems possible.

 

[CarolynFH]

I still think you were in one of the hotel rooms - the Inn also has the long twisty halls and one elevator bank. Is it possible that the Villas were overbooked and you were just assigned to the Inn side? Especially if you paid cash for the room, that seems possible.

No, I don't think so. I didn't even know where the Belle Vue Lounge or the restrooms on that side of the lobby were until many years later, because we never passed them! And the view from our window that trip was of the front entrance, from the villas side.

I'm thinking that since the BWV had just opened that summer, maybe they had furnished some of the dedicated studios differently and then changed things around very soon after our visit. @Deb & Bill corroborated my memory of a day bed in the "studio plus" later than Nov. 1996 - we need a BWV historian who has memory of the very earliest BWV days!