Buying a dog while Unemployed UPDATE: Returning dog! (ugh!)

Regardless, I'm betting all the teachers on this board just LOVE LOVE LOVE having their profession referred to as "low class." :laughing:


OP referred to the individuals as lower class, not the profession.
 
Whether it was classy or not to make the 'low class' judgemnt, I don't understand the OP's current angst. First, she disapproved of their getting a dog. Now, she disapproves of them returning the dog.

Can these people do anything that would please the OP?
 
You know what...I agree with the OP...her in-laws are low class. And his profession has nothing to do with it.

Me too.

Whether it was classy or not to make the 'low class' judgemnt, I don't understand the OP's current angst. First, she disapproved of their getting a dog. Now, she disapproves of them returning the dog.

Can these people do anything that would please the OP?

The OP was frustrated that the IL's got a puppy that had they done the minimum amount of research they would had known needed a lot of exercise and attention as a puppy. Once they had the dog they decided it was too much work and got rid of it. Thje puppy may pay th epricwe of people who do not think before they act. I don't even know those people and they make me crazy!
 
IMHO part of not wanting people who aren't really committed to pet adoption is the fact that so many of these dogs go in and out of the shelter. Therefore adopting the pet would be upsetting, and returning the dog would be equally upsetting because it is hard on these dogs. :flower3:
 

IMHO part of not wanting people who aren't really committed to pet adoption is the fact that so many of these dogs go in and out of the shelter. Therefore adopting the pet would be upsetting, and returning the dog would be equally upsetting because it is hard on these dogs. :flower3:

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Regardless, I'm betting all the teachers on this board just LOVE LOVE LOVE having their profession referred to as "low class." :laughing:

I'm a teacher (well, used to be a full time teacher, now a substitute teacher), and I didn't read it at all as her saying teachers were low class.

People who adopt an animal and then after a few days decide without putting out any real effort that it's too much work, they are low class.
 
Whether it was classy or not to make the 'low class' judgemnt, I don't understand the OP's current angst. First, she disapproved of their getting a dog. Now, she disapproves of them returning the dog.

Can these people do anything that would please the OP?

Do you think it is ok for two people who are heavy drug users and have no intention of stopping the drug use to decide to have a baby? I certainly don't.

But, if those two people then do decide to have a baby and the baby is born with special needs, I certainly don't think it's then ok for them after a few days to decide to just give up the baby.

Here's another one. A kid wants to play football. The parents don't think he should. He decides to sign up anyway, and then decides he doesn't like it and wants to quit. Many parents aren't going to be happy about him quitting at that point, because they feel it's more important to honor the commitment he made.

One more. You have a couple of friends that want to get married, but you think they are totally wrong for each other. They get married anyway, doesn't mean you then should be ok when after a couple of months they decide they want to get divorced. If they're going to actually go through with the commitment, then they should actually work at the marriage when it gets tough.

She thinks the in-laws were wrong for even considering getting a dog (and it sounds like she was right since they are giving it back). But that doesn't mean she doesn't think that once they actually make the commitment they shouldn't follow through with it and at least try and make it work.

It really isn't a hard concept to grasp.
 
I guess that I understand the family choosing not to have cat surgery again. $3000 would put a strain on most people's budgets, and they did already do it once. Crappy pet owners would NEVER have put that kind of cash into a feline to begin with.
 
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I dont umderstand all this horror about returning the dog. Thats better than in the future being unable to care for it.

I would never spend $3000 on surgery for a pet. It would go to Kitty heaven. pronto.
 
Disney Doll... thank you! You're hitting the nail right on the head with your interpretations of my frustrations. ;)

I do realize my choice of words in previous posts wasn't the greatest. I definitely was NOT saying that the Teaching profession is "low class." My in-laws have made, and continue to make, bad financial decisions... as soon as they get a dollar in hand they go and spend it... "putting it in a savings account is no fun!" as they would say.

Mumom95 has it right... getting a dog is a long-term Commitment. I thought they'd stick things out with the dog and train it, because of course it's going to be excited in new surroundings. After 24 hours they said "Nope, it's too wild." And decided to return it. Commitment broken. No effort made to work with the dog and it's behavior. It's bad decision after bad decision that frustrates me about them. After learning they were going to return the dog, my husband shook his head and said "Why am I not surprised?! They shouldn't have gotten a dog in the first place!" Their own son gets riled up with their stupid decisions and lack of commitment... it's not just me. ;)

Have they learned the lesson that they should educate themselves on dog ownership (costs, commitment, personality/energy levels of different breeds)? I don't think so... because they are already back at shelters looking for a different dog, one that comes "civilized."

As for the dog that got returned... I am actually happy for the dog's sake. Hopefully it will have another chance to be adopted into a family that will give it the attention, love and training that it needs. I agree that animals shouldn't be treated as disposable trinkets, but unfortunately, it happens. Here's hoping the dog finds a permanent home real soon.
 
Whether it was classy or not to make the 'low class' judgemnt, I don't understand the OP's current angst. First, she disapproved of their getting a dog. Now, she disapproves of them returning the dog.

Can these people do anything that would please the OP?

I don't think the dog is the issue per se...the dog is just one more thing in what I assume are a long line of "things" (refer to my post on page 3 #39) which are very frustrating.

Hence the reason it's called a "vent".
 
Apparently I am the only one who seems to be able to understand the OP's description of her frustrations with her in-laws.

Perhaps her choice of the words "low class" were poor...I understood her to mean "classless" as in having very little class.

And, quite frankly, "class" has nothing to do with being a teacher or any other profession...it has to do with behavior. I don't recall the OP saying that all teachers were low class. She said her in-laws were low class. And yet, someone has made the very BROAD leap from "my in-laws are lower class" to "all teachers are low class". How does that happen???????

In a PP, alexandria says class has nothing to do with money but rather with how a person conducts themself. So let's look at conduct in this case:

1. Not doing anything about job hunting for 2 months because you want your summer off. To those of us who have to work for the whole year, this is a ridiculous argument.

2. Living paycheck to paycheck when you have the ability (based on having a decent profession) not to have to do that.

3. Getting a pet without thinking through the ramifications of what it entails and while looking down the gun at collecting unemployment at 60% of your salary when you already live paycheck to paycheck on your full salary.

4. Taking a 2 week vacation, crashing at your childrens' home for 3 days. Having your children pay admission for your entrance into a fair. Not thanking them for the treat, & instead saying "hey, I just saved $40!" And then proceeding to buy $40 worth of car wax and eye glass cleaner from the vendor stands.

5. Buying a cat that you euthanize because it inconveniently needed expensive, non-futile, medical care.

You know what...I agree with the OP...her in-laws are low class. And his profession has nothing to do with it.


I totally agree with you on this...the parents never grew up and they live in Peter Pan land.
 
IMHO part of not wanting people who aren't really committed to pet adoption is the fact that so many of these dogs go in and out of the shelter. Therefore adopting the pet would be upsetting, and returning the dog would be equally upsetting because it is hard on these dogs. :flower3:

quoting again because so may perople are having difficulty with this concept.
 
I do realize my choice of words in previous posts wasn't the greatest. I definitely was NOT saying that the Teaching profession is "low class." My in-laws have made, and continue to make, bad financial decisions... as soon as they get a dollar in hand they go and spend it... "putting it in a savings account is no fun!" as they would say.

As the former MIL of a young lady who also called us low class and cited pretty much the same arguments you have just made above, I hope that you are kinder in the way you speak about his parents to your DH. Just wanted to point out that what may seem like bad choices to an outsider, and a fairly young one at that, may not be exactly the case. It sounds as though you live a distance away and don't see them often. Perhaps there are other details you don't know that affect the choices they make which you presently view as low class.

My FIL was a teacher, his school completely closed this past June. He is now unemployed. He hasn't done much to look for a new job ~ he says he is "off" for the Summer since he's a teacher. He will start collecting Unemployment in September (his teaching contract is still technically paying through Aug). He says he wants a job that doesn't have set hours (basically he decides when he wants to show up and go home) and he wants a job with Summers completely off. (good luck finding that!)

I woud classify my in-laws as "lower class." They live paycheck to paycheck. They still have 2 kids living at home; ages 13 and 11. The kids have been begging for a dog, my in-laws gave in and just got one yesterday. I don't believe this is the time for them to be getting a dog, as the financial responsibility of owning one adds up.

Unless you've been privy to all details of their finances and lifestyle, I don't think it's possible - or fair - to judge a family which somehow was high class enough to raise a man you'd fall in love with and who is presumably working to support you in whatever style you strive to become accustomed to.

It does sound as though the potential is there for employment. Your DFIL has experience and a respected profession to fall back on. A teacher relocating or taking the summer off, doesn't strike me as especially shiftless. When you've had a child marry & move away, it's hard not to come face to face with the realization of just how short those parenting years really are. That's prompted several folks I know to re-evaluate priorities/lifestyles/expectations to spend more quality time with the children still left at home.

Vent all you want here on the dis - we're strangers - but please try not to say negative things to your DH about his family - especially using terms like low class. Even if it is true, it's a reflection on him and statements like that hurt - plus get old very quickly. Besides, now that you're married it's really a reflection on you too, isn't it?

You'll note I said former MIL... after several years of bad mouthing his family & friends, in what she thought were subtle little ways, DS31 had enough. Sadly, now that the divorce is final, there are innocent children who are left to feel torn between them.

BTW - I agreed with you about the dog until I saw the statements of what influenced your judgement. I'm so saddened by the dog going back to the shelter. It's not awful that they adopted but it is truly awful that it didn't work out. Every family is not suited to be pet owners, just as every dog is not suited to every family. Part of the reponsibility for ensuring placements will work should also fall on the shelter though. A shelter who releases a high maintenance puppy to a family just b/c they think she's cute, without being made fully aware of any behavior issues or lifestyle requirements, is what seems lazy and low class to me...:sad2:
 
I guess that I understand the family choosing not to have cat surgery again. $3000 would put a strain on most people's budgets, and they did already do it once. Crappy pet owners would NEVER have put that kind of cash into a feline to begin with.

A responsible cat owner would never leave string where the cat could get it. It get tangled up in their intestines and they die. The OP was frustrated that not only did they leave it once and almost lose their pet they did it again after spending $3000 to rectify the problem the first time.

Some pet owners leave things that can kill their animals out once. Crappy pet owners do not learn from their pets first accident, they do it again.
 
A responsible cat owner would never leave string where the cat could get it. It get tangled up in their intestines and they die. The OP was frustrated that not only did they leave it once and almost lose their pet they did it again after spending $3000 to rectify the problem the first time.

Some pet owners leave things that can kill their animals out once. Crappy pet owners do not learn from their pets first accident, they do it again.

Cats can get into anything. A christmas ribbon, a closet with craft stuff, a yarn bag on the top shelf of a closet. Mine have done all of the above. You cannot keep every accident from happening.
 
Vent all you want here on the dis - we're strangers - but please try not to say negative things to your DH about his family -

especially using terms like low class. Even if it is true, it's a reflection on him and statements like that hurt - plus get old very quickly. Besides, now that you're married it's really a reflection on you too, isn't it?


You'll note I said former MIL... after several years of bad mouthing his family & friends, in what she thought were subtle little ways, DS31 had enough. Sadly, now that the divorce is final, there are innocent children who are left to feel torn between them.


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Cats can get into anything. A christmas ribbon, a closet with craft stuff, a yarn bag on the top shelf of a closet. Mine have done all of the above. You cannot keep every accident from happening.

I know that, I had four cats. They are inquisitive little things but it is really important to keep things that they can die on away. We have not had tinsel on our trees in 17 years, I do not use that curling ribbon because I had one that was just way too attracted to it and the spun glass snow that I used to use is just a distant memory. My DGD knows that if she has a handle bag she must make sure that it is never where the kitties can get their heads stuck in the handles. While mine have gotten into things I must say that they have never gotten hurt in my home. In the event that one had ingested something that almost killed him I can guarantee that it would never happen again. Accidents happen but I cannot imagine allowing something so traumatic happening twice to my animals.
 
Even if it is true, it's a reflection on him and statements like that hurt - plus get old very quickly. Besides, now that you're married it's really a reflection on you too, isn't it?

I don't think this is true at all. Someone's parents can be quite 'classy' (since we're using that term, I'll stick with it), while they have none. Or vice versa. I don't think it is a reflection on either party, unless one caused the other to be the way they are. But the OP's husband in no way caused his parents to effectively live beyond their means, he obviously doesn't do that himself and doesn't approve of it, so how is it a reflection on him? And certainly not the OP either, as she didn't cause them to be the way they are.

I mean, if his parents went out and murdered someone, would that be a reflection on the OP's husband too? Or the OP? Same idea essentially of them doing something undesirable and it being a reflection their child.


I will agree with you that statements about someone's parents can hurt, and to tread lightly there, but she did say he agrees with her for the most part, so it's likely not causing much of an issue between them.
 















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