Bush sets record-longest vacation in recent history
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Where have we left off with this thread? The same place that I left it last time, kind of. 
I wonder what the religious people think of Cindy? I mean she seems to have God on her side. She put up all of those crosses for the dead soldiers, she prays, and advocates non-violence, she wears a cross. Doesn't it look bad to be a conservative and to denigrate her for your cause?
I wonder what the religious people think of Cindy? I mean she seems to have God on her side. She put up all of those crosses for the dead soldiers, she prays, and advocates non-violence, she wears a cross. Doesn't it look bad to be a conservative and to denigrate her for your cause?
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minniepumpernickel said:I wonder what the religious people think of Cindy? I mean she seems to have God on her side. She put up all of those crosses for the dead soldiers, she prays, and advocates non-violence, she wears a cross. Doesn't it look bad to be a conservative and to denigrate her for your cause?
What cause? Disagreement is a now a cause and paramount to denigration?
I asked Peachgirl is she agreed 100 percent with Cindy but she tried to play a game I wasn't in the mood to play so I'll ask you. If you've read a lot of the things she's said so far, do you agree with all that she's said?
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Charade said:
Lol, can't you SEE how ironic this statement is!!!!
Cindy is just DISAGREEING< right!
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minniepumpernickel said:I wonder what the religious people think of Cindy? I mean she seems to have God on her side. She put up all of those crosses for the dead soldiers, she prays, and advocates non-violence, she wears a cross. Doesn't it look bad to be a conservative and to denigrate her for your cause?
I'll ask again. What cause? (read the BOLD part)
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Charade said:
I think that Cindy is a sad, lost soul. I don't know, has she written a book like the unibomber manifesto, or something. She is not a profit, a spokesperson, or a politician. She seems like just an average mom.
I don't think I could ever say that I agree with anyone all the time 100%. I have too many of my own ideas. No one has to be a follower, or true believer to state an opinion. I think thats what your problem is, you believe too easily and too much. Use that muscle between your ears to analyze and evaluate. Don't just follow blindly!
Lebjwb said:
Well I've seen the "Anti-Bush" crowd for myself... they were hardly professing their love for the troops. It turned my stomach. You know - I don't even listen to Rush - in I make an effort to watch a balance of media sources. I even went into our Support our Troops rally with a sense of trying to see both sides. This is a very emotional issue, and often it's difficult to seperate emotion from reality.
From my PERSONAL observation ... from the side of the people who are protesting President Bush in Crawford ... they are also denegrating our TROOPS.
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ThAnswr said:John's got a muscle between his ears?
Oooo, I'm intrigued.
I don't know whats going on in there???
On another note, I think that my brain has atrophied over the years! Someone needs to do a study on the conservative brain vs. the liberal one. oy vey!
pamlet said:
Exactly what actions were they taking that was denegrating to the troops?
Btw, what about the man who knocked down all the crosses with his truck? Was he being supportive of the troops? Just a wild guess, but I don't think he was part of the anti-war crowd.
Lebjwb said:
Believe it or not, some people can actually do more than one thing at a time!! Just as I'm sure you're able to do your job, whatever it might be, while you're posting.
peachgirl said:
No, he was being an *******, and he should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
Agreed, but the only evidence I saw posted regarding the actions of the war protestors denigrating the troops was that they weren't waving American flags, although I have seen pictures of them holding them and placing them on crosses so I'm not sure just how accurate that report is. Then again, there's the whole argument of whether waving a flag is the ultimate example of troop support.
I've yet to read one report where they've taken any type of threatening or violent actions such as attaching pipes to a pickup and tearing down crosses or shooting guns in the air...those actions all came from the "other" side.
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On Monday night, a vandal in a pickup truck ran over hundreds of small white crosses that had been installed in Crawford, Texas as a simple memorial to the Troops killed in Iraq. The vandal, who police say is Waco resident Larry Northern, was soon arrested, and OpTruth's Perry Jefferies managed to find his e-mail address. Here's what he had to say:
Mr. Northern:
I am a Veteran of the Iraq war, having served with the 4th Infantry Division on the initial invasion with Force Package One.
While I was in Iraq,a very good friend of mine, Christopher Cutchall,was killed in an unarmoredHMMWV outside of Baghdad. He was a cavalry scout serving with the 3d ID.Once he had declined the award of a medal because Soldiers assigned to him did not receive similar awards that he had recommended. He left two sons and awonderful wife. On Monday night, August 16, you ran down the memorial cross erected for him by Arlington West.
One of my Soldiers in Iraq was Roger Turner. We gave him a hard time because he always wore all of his protective equipment, including three pairs of glasses or goggles. He did this because he wanted to make sure that he returned home to his family. He rode a bicycle to work every day to make sure that he was able to save enough money on his Army salary to send his son to college. At Camp Anaconda, where the squadron briefly stayed, a rocket landed inside a tent, sending a piece of debris or fragment into him and killed him. On Monday night, August 16, you ran down the memorial cross erected for him by Arlington West.
One of my Soldiers was Henry Bacon. He was one of the finest men I ever met. He was in perfect shape for a man over forty, working hard at night. He told me that he did that because he didn't have much money to buy nice things for his wife, who he loved so much, so he had to be in good shape for her. He was like a father to many young men in his section of maintenance mechanics. They fixed our vehicles with almost no support and fabricated parts and made repairs that kept our squadron rolling on the longest, fastest armor advance ever made under fire. He was so very proud of his son-in-law that married the beautiful daughter so well raised by Henry. His son-in-law was a helicopter pilot with the 1st Cavalry Division, who died last year. Henry stopped to rescue a vehicle belonging to another unit on what was to be his last day in Iraq. He could have kept rolling - he was headed to Kuwait after a year's tour. But he stopped. He could have sent others to do the work, but he was on the ground, leading by example, when he was killed. On Monday night, August 16, you took it upon yourself to go out in the country, where a peaceful group was exercising their constitutional rights, and harming no one, and you ran down the memorial cross erected for Henry and for his son-in-law by Arlington West.
Mr. Northern - I know little about Cindy Sheehan except that she is a grieving mother, a gentle soul, and wants to bring harm to no one. I know little about you except that you found your way to Crawford on Monday night in August with chains and a pipe attached to your truck for the sole purpose of dishonoring a memorial erected for my friends and lost Soldiers and hundreds of others that served this nation when they were called. I find it disheartening that good men like these have died so that people like you can threaten a mother who lost a child with your actions. I hope that you are ashamed of yourself.
Perry Jefferies, First Sergeant, USA (retired)
http://www2.operationtruth.com/dia/organizations/OpTruth/blog/comments.jsp?blog_entry_KEY=19954
Mr. Northern:
I am a Veteran of the Iraq war, having served with the 4th Infantry Division on the initial invasion with Force Package One.
While I was in Iraq,a very good friend of mine, Christopher Cutchall,was killed in an unarmoredHMMWV outside of Baghdad. He was a cavalry scout serving with the 3d ID.Once he had declined the award of a medal because Soldiers assigned to him did not receive similar awards that he had recommended. He left two sons and awonderful wife. On Monday night, August 16, you ran down the memorial cross erected for him by Arlington West.
One of my Soldiers in Iraq was Roger Turner. We gave him a hard time because he always wore all of his protective equipment, including three pairs of glasses or goggles. He did this because he wanted to make sure that he returned home to his family. He rode a bicycle to work every day to make sure that he was able to save enough money on his Army salary to send his son to college. At Camp Anaconda, where the squadron briefly stayed, a rocket landed inside a tent, sending a piece of debris or fragment into him and killed him. On Monday night, August 16, you ran down the memorial cross erected for him by Arlington West.
One of my Soldiers was Henry Bacon. He was one of the finest men I ever met. He was in perfect shape for a man over forty, working hard at night. He told me that he did that because he didn't have much money to buy nice things for his wife, who he loved so much, so he had to be in good shape for her. He was like a father to many young men in his section of maintenance mechanics. They fixed our vehicles with almost no support and fabricated parts and made repairs that kept our squadron rolling on the longest, fastest armor advance ever made under fire. He was so very proud of his son-in-law that married the beautiful daughter so well raised by Henry. His son-in-law was a helicopter pilot with the 1st Cavalry Division, who died last year. Henry stopped to rescue a vehicle belonging to another unit on what was to be his last day in Iraq. He could have kept rolling - he was headed to Kuwait after a year's tour. But he stopped. He could have sent others to do the work, but he was on the ground, leading by example, when he was killed. On Monday night, August 16, you took it upon yourself to go out in the country, where a peaceful group was exercising their constitutional rights, and harming no one, and you ran down the memorial cross erected for Henry and for his son-in-law by Arlington West.
Mr. Northern - I know little about Cindy Sheehan except that she is a grieving mother, a gentle soul, and wants to bring harm to no one. I know little about you except that you found your way to Crawford on Monday night in August with chains and a pipe attached to your truck for the sole purpose of dishonoring a memorial erected for my friends and lost Soldiers and hundreds of others that served this nation when they were called. I find it disheartening that good men like these have died so that people like you can threaten a mother who lost a child with your actions. I hope that you are ashamed of yourself.
Perry Jefferies, First Sergeant, USA (retired)
http://www2.operationtruth.com/dia/organizations/OpTruth/blog/comments.jsp?blog_entry_KEY=19954
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