Bush ratings continue to drop to new lows

And in this morning's news Jessica Simpson thought meeting with the President would be bad for the charity she supports.
So she snubbed the Republican party's invitation to appear at a fundraiser.
Jessica Simpson won't be seen at the same table withwith you?
That's worse than bad poll numbers. That's a huge problem with your base.
 
LoraJ said:
Tax Cut! What a joke! Thanks to that tax cut, my property taxes will now be going up, just as perdicted. Cut one place and you get raised elsewhere.

That would have happened any way. Do you really think there's a connection?

Property taxes go up nearly every year for me as well. I don't think it's directly related to a reduction in federal income tax rates.
 
Tanuki said:
And in this morning's news Jessica Simpson thought meeting with the President would be bad for the charity she supports.
So she snubbed the Republican party's invitation to appear at a fundraiser.
Jessica Simpson won't be seen at the same table withwith you?
That's worse than bad poll numbers. That's a huge problem with your base.
Hey, don't let the facts get in the way of your bias!!

Entertainment News
People close to Simpson said she declined a request to appear that same evening at the gala fund-raiser of the National Republican Congressional Committee -- even after she was offered some private face time with Bush -- because Operation Smile is a non-partisan group.

"It just feels wrong," one Simpson insider told Reuters on Wednesday, adding that the actress keeps her political views private. "She would love to meet the president and talk about Operation Smile ... but she can't do it at a fund-raiser for the Republican Party."

Ethics, eh? That's what must have thrown you.

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Mercy said:
I think it's sad, Pres. Bush could bring about world peace, find a cure for cancer, and solve the worlds hunger crisis and the left/Dems would still have some kind of problem with him. :(

Are you kidding? How insulting. I'm a Democrat and I would be thrilled if Bush were indeed doing any of this. It's too bad he hasn't spent time on any of this, isn't it? Instead he mislead the American public, invaded a country and started a war that has caused the deaths of over 2,000 young American soldiers while thousands more have been horribly mangled and injured. Our foreign policy has left the rest of the world seeing us as one big bully. He has illegally wiretapped American citizens saying it was necessary for our security and then turned around and wanted to give up some of our port security to the UAE. He sat back doing nothing as thousands of Americans lost their homes and jobs due to Hurricane Katrina. The list, unfortunately, just goes on and on and on. Yet, all the while, his cronies just keep getting richer. What part of this do you not understand? I, personally, cannot believe there is anyone left, who after all of this still supports this president.
 

suzannen said:
Are you kidding? How insulting. I'm a Democrat and I would be thrilled if Bush were indeed doing any of this. It's too bad he hasn't spent time on any of this, isn't it? Instead he mislead the American public, invaded a country and started a war that has caused the deaths of over 2,000 young American soldiers while thousands more have been horribly mangled and injured. Our foreign policy has left the rest of the world seeing us as one big bully. He has illegally wiretapped American citizens saying it was necessary for our security and then turned around and wanted to give up some of our port security to the UAE. He sat back doing nothing as thousands of Americans lost their homes and jobs due to Hurricane Katrina. The list, unfortunately, just goes on and on and on. Yet, all the while, his cronies just keep getting richer. What part of this do you not understand? I, personally, cannot believe there is anyone left, who after all of this still supports this president.
You are entitled to your opinion on the war in Iraq but what port security was being given to the UAE (and even if it had of been, are you saying they are Arabs so cannot be trusted?) and as for Hurricane Katrina, why don't you read Mrs Kreamer's post on the other Bush vilification thread and get some perspective on what really happened.
At the next election the cry will be,"Don't trust the Democrats to manage anything, look what they did to New Orleans."

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Mercy said:
I think it's sad, Pres. Bush could bring about world peace, find a cure for cancer, and solve the worlds hunger crisis and the left/Dems would still have some kind of problem with him. :(
Could be, although we Dems hardly hold the lion's share of political partisanship. I seem to remember some of my far right Conservative relatives complaining when President Clinton signed welfare reform and NAFTA into law because he was "stealing republican ideas". Some people, no matter what you do, on both sides of the political fence are going to hate, or love, the President just because of his party affiliation, but those people are in the very small minority.

President Bush's problem is that those people in the middle of the road, both Republicans and Dems who may have voted for him because they beleived in what he stood for, are beginning to rethink their support.

Politicians are always going to have the undying support of their fanatical fringes, who typically cancel each other out when election time rolls around. It's the moderate and middle of the road voters who sway elections, and these polls show that the President seems to be failing them. Why else are Congressional Republicans, whose terms are up at the end of this year, so hastily running from the President's UAE ports deal? His lack of public support has now become a liability to his party.
 
DawnCt1 said:
You weren 't pleased with your tax cut? You liked paying more before? :confused3

I'm paying more than before. I'm not married, don't have kids, and don't own a home (I live with my widowed father). So I get to pay for everyone else's tax cut.
 
Mercy said:
I think it's sad, Pres. Bush could bring about world peace, find a cure for cancer, and solve the worlds hunger crisis and the left/Dems would still have some kind of problem with him. :(

That's ridiculous. But of COURSE I'd kinda like the guy if he could do any one of those examples mentioned. Well, I'd like what he DID, but still think he was a megalomaniacal Daddy's little boy. :rotfl2:
 
Tanuki said:
And in this morning's news Jessica Simpson thought meeting with the President would be bad for the charity she supports.
So she snubbed the Republican party's invitation to appear at a fundraiser.
Jessica Simpson won't be seen at the same table withwith you?
That's worse than bad poll numbers. That's a huge problem with your base.


I guess George will not be eating at Pizza Hut tonight.
 
Alicnwondrln said:
Sorry but until last year I was always paying
even when his tax cuts took over
i dont work Ft that lower out or income so we get $ back now
so his tax cuts did nothing for me
if they helped others thats great :)


It helped everyone who works. You may notice when they are gone.
 
LoraJ said:
Tax Cut! What a joke! Thanks to that tax cut, my property taxes will now be going up, just as perdicted. Cut one place and you get raised elsewhere.
My property taxes have gone up every year for the last 20 years. Where have you been?? :confused3
 
Now, now, people, George W. Bush is an intelligent man who can differentiate between a vast array of different animals, following his viewing of Sesame Street. For instance:

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DawnCt1 said:
My property taxes have gone up every year for the last 20 years. Where have you been?? :confused3


New Jersey. And how much is your annual increase percentage?

In my neighborhood, so far they have gone up 15% - 35% this quarter with another increase to come by years end.
 
I love this quote from a recent Conan O'Brien monologue:

"Earlier today, President Bush flew to New Orleans. There was an awkward moment when the President looked around and said, 'Oh, my God, what the hell happened here?'"
 
This all sounds like the same partisan talking points so nothing new here. The point is that Bush's numbers are sinking out of sight. You may not care and he may not care but it's still happening and that's what this thread is all about.
 
Planogirl said:
This all sounds like the same partisan talking points so nothing new here. The point is that Bush's numbers are sinking out of sight. You may not care and he may not care but it's still happening and that's what this thread is all about.
Absolutely!!

Aside from polls, another “canary in the coalmine” as to how the President’s support has waned is that pundits from the Right, such as columnist David Brooks and former Reagan official Bruce Bartlett, have started complaining about the President’s policies. Publisher’s Weekly has the following review of Bartlett’s new book Impostor : How George W. Bush Bankrupted America and Betrayed the Reagan Legacy: "Liberal commentators gripe so frequently about the current administration that it's become easy to tune them out, but when Bartlett, a former member of the Reagan White House, says George W. Bush has betrayed the conservative movement, his conservative credentials command attention. Bartlett's attack boils down to one key premise: Bush is a shallow opportunist who has cast aside the principles of the "Reagan Revolution" for short-term political gains that may wind up hurting the American economy as badly as, if not worse than, Nixon's did. As part of a simple, point-by-point critique of Bush's "finger-in-the-wind" approach to economic leadership, Bartlett singles out the Medicare prescription drug bill of 2003— "the worst piece of legislation ever enacted"—as a particularly egregious example of the increases in government spending that will, he says, make tax hikes inevitable. Bush has further weakened the Republican Party by failing to establish a successor who can run in the next election, Bartlett says. If the Reaganites want to restore the party's tradition of fiscal conservatism and small government, he worries, let alone keep the Democrats out of the White House, they will have their work cut out for them".

Bartlett goes so far as to praise President Clinton for his “conservative” policies in his comparisons with the current Administration.

It’s hardly “left wing nutjobs” complaining about President Bush anymore.
 
JPN4265 said:
And your point? I tend to believe that Kelly, Chris, Shawn and Anthony are safer for what the President has done and is doing then if he had done nothing at all. Its good to see a President that is driven by principal instead of poll numbers. :thumbsup2
i would tend to disagree
making a war and more terrorists has done nothing to make me safe
the airlines arent safer
the ports arent safer
all of bushs decisions help big companies and rich people
he isnt honest, he is spying on people without going through the proper channels and we can play the what if game all day
we are no better off, wheres all the oil that was sup to finance this war
my kids will be paying for the debt he has run up and will there kids
 
DawnCt1 said:
It helped everyone who works. You may notice when they are gone.


Do you know everyone? If you are the working poor I don't think $400 was much of a help. The truth is the tax cuts benefit the wealthy. Take the estate tax for instance, only the really wealthy benefit from that one. And even if it helped some middle class people the cost in the long run hurts us all.

Bush is so fond of bringing up 9/11 every chance he gets and most of his supporters here seem to think we are safer because he invaded Iraq but in so many ways nothing has changed since 9/11. Police and firefighters are still not on the same radio frequency, we've all read about the security at the ports, which has not improved. They don't even talk about the water supply or power plants, the list goes on.

Who will you all blame when the terrorist strike again? Wait I know, the democrats, and of course all of us who think Bush is an idiot. Since we don't support him it will all be our fault. And to think they call Clinton slick Willie, this president has managed not to accept responsibility for anything.
 
marybet said:
Do you know everyone? If you are the working poor I don't think $400 was much of a help. The truth is the tax cuts benefit the wealthy. Take the estate tax for instance, only the really wealthy benefit from that one. And even if it helped some middle class people the cost in the long run hurts us all.
The estate tax relief benefits anyone who is in the position to inherit the family farm, the family business, the cottage or the family home that has been in the family for years, their parents' hard earned money that they had already paid taxes on. The estate tax is a tax on money that has been previously taxed. There are many family farms that the children must sell because they can't afford to pay the inheritance taxes on after the death of their parents. There whole net worth may be tied up in grazing acres, cows, equipment and barns. That isn't something you can send to the IRS. Often all the family can do is to create "subdivisions". That is only one example of the lack of fairness in the estate tax.
I don't consider our income "middle class" but I would sure appreciate $400. If you are over a certain income level, you have to deal with the Alternative minimum tax", so you are wrong if you think that the tax cuts "help the wealthy".
 
Laugh O. Grams said:
"Liberal commentators gripe so frequently about the current administration that it's become easy to tune them out, but when Bartlett, a former member of the Reagan White House, says George W. Bush has betrayed the conservative movement, his conservative credentials command attention.

Some have been complaining all along, and I'm always wondering how it was that Bush promised the conservative movement anything. Conservatives had a choice: Bush or Gore. Buchanan and other hard-line conservatives don't win elections. So that's a legitimate criticism - he's not that conservative - but Bartlett feeling "betrayed" is kind of amusing.
 












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