Bush at 36%, how low can he go?

[LuvDuke]

I have seen many, many examples, over this and other threads. I just won't waste my time going back, cutting and pasting to satisfy his request.

There's really no point. Just as there seems to be no point in presenting facts to refute your biased agenda.

But thanks for the input!

This just gets better and better. Of course, why present facts when you're used to just putting out talking points to the hallelujah chorus who nod in perfect unison.

You can't make this stuff up.

 

[TCPluto]

This just gets better and better. Of course, why present facts when you're used to just putting out talking points to the hallelujah chorus who nod in perfect unison.

You can't make this stuff up.

Since you have the time Dukey, you can go back and do it.

And so it is written....

 

[Claire L]

Hmmm interesting % as Tony Blair the Prime Minister here in the UK is now also at 36%!!!!

Claire

 

[Teejay32]

Personally, I don't know enough about the domestic affairs of the USA to comment here, but in international terms I would like to see at least an independent inquiry into the statements made prior to and during much of the war.

Unless he has something to hide, the President should be more than happy to oblige for the majority of his citizens and for the majority of the international community.

It's a little thing but it could do so much.

Rich::

We've had investigations into prewar intelligence assessments, and any statements made by the administration are public record. Anyone could do that.

 

[LuvDuke]

Since you have the time Dukey, you can go back and do it.

And so it is written....

Another Bushie who can't grasp the fact the choir they're preaching to is getting smaller and smaller.

 

[LuvDuke]

The Republican Party runs the White House, the Congress, and has a majority on the Supreme Court. Everything that we have done as a country over the past 5+ years has been done on your party's watch, and now there are some of you who want to tell those of us who disagree how we should disagree?!? Pretty callous, IMO.

Your party has won...you control everything...enjoy! The President's not pulling out the troops, just like you want, the Republican controlled Congress continues to spend money faster than they can print it, they continue to twist and tweek the Constitution to fit their agenda...it's party time Republicans! Get crazy!

Oh my, now you went and did it, LOG. You had to remind them who's been running things for the 11 years. They've been living with the fantasy "it's the evil Democrats" who's done them wrong, made them spend all that money, lied about the war, etc.

To paraphrase Kilroy, they've met the enemy and it's them.

 

[LuvDuke]

What some of you call facts is Blabber! That you take the blabber as fact is what's disgusting.

Left wing media reports are just that, left wing opinion, wrapped in the cloak of THE news. Right wing, same thing.

Lets look to the middle, or at least use common sense when deciphering information. It's easy, you should try it!

Has Bush found the WMD's yet?

 

[DawnCt1]

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I agree that Iraq isn't ready at this point. I do see the need for an exit strategy though. We shouldn't play policeman any longer than we have to IMO. Too many people seem content to hunker down and just stay in Iraq for good. I suspect that that might even be part of the reason for the original invasion.

And the intent isn't to play "policeman" any longer than we need to. There is an exit strategy and we have been working towards that very goal. There can't be a fixed exit date however. That broadcasts to our enemies that they do not have to show themselves because we are leaving at a fixed date. I don't see the problem with having a base in Iraq for strategic reasons in the future. I hope we will.

 

[DawnCt1]

You don't get it do you? Hussein was a tyrant and is on trial. George Bush should be on trial ALSO!

No my dear, you don't get it. There is no reason why any world leader in conjunction with world leaders from many other countries should be on trial for holding a tyrant to the terms of his surrender. That is what happened.

 

[DawnCt1]

The "job" can't be finished, as we should remember after having had our backsides handed to us by the Vietnamese. People defending their own country will hold out against any invader.

No we didn't have our backsides handed to us by the Vietnamese. We handed our backsides to them. Big difference. In the wake of our exit we opened the gates to the "killing fields". I would suggest that you rent that movie at Blockbuster with Dith Pran. He was a real refugee who struggled to stay alive under the totalitarian regime after we left. He was one of millions. Understand that we aren't fighting Iraqi's defending their own country from an invader. We are fighting along side of the Iraqi army so they can defend their country from the small minority that would like to return to the days of totalitarianism and oppression or who, have no true ideology except to kill innocent men, women and children in the name of their distorted view of their religion. You are so programmed to the USA as the big imperialist dictator that you have lost sight of reality.

 

[DawnCt1]

I think this bit is totally how it is. Our disagreement is over the birth of the war and in the handling of it, not over the end of it (as we all want a stable Iraq ruled by the Iraqis).



Rich::

Well there ya go! Instead of railing against our president for the war in Iraq then, be part of the solution and support the ongoing effort to make Iraq a free and stable country. It has to succeed if there is to be any peace in the middle east.

 

[lw49033]

No we didn't have our backsides handed to us by the Vietnamese. We handed our backsides to them. Big difference. In the wake of our exit we opened the gates to the "killing fields".

Had we stayed out of the war in the first place, the consequences would not have been as disastrous. Yes, I suppose we could've defeated the Vietnamese, and we could defeat Iraq, if we were to adopt tactics indistinguishable from Genghis Khan. Luckily nobody's suggested that quite yet, although I expect to hear it on Fox News any day now.

Understand that we aren't fighting Iraqi's defending their own country from an invader.

Um, yes we are.

We are fighting along side of the Iraqi army

The Iraqi army we, the invaders, built and handpicked!

so they can defend their country from the small minority that would like to return to the days of totalitarianism and oppression

That it is the minority is irrelevant; in the long run Iraq will probably turn out to have had more everyday freedom under Ba'athist rule than under the "democratic" ayatollahs who are consolidating power. I agree with Bill Maher--Bring Back Saddam!

 

[DawnCt1]

Had we stayed out of the war in the first place, the consequences would not have been as disastrous. Yes, I suppose we could've defeated the Vietnamese, and we could defeat Iraq, if we were to adopt tactics indistinguishable from Genghis Khan. Luckily nobody's suggested that quite yet, although I expect to hear it on Fox News any day now.



Um, yes we are.



The Iraqi army we, the invaders, built and handpicked!



That it is the minority is irrelevant; in the long run Iraq will probably turn out to have had more everyday freedom under Ba'athist rule than under the "democratic" ayatollahs who are consolidating power. I agree with Bill Maher--Bring Back Saddam!

The French handed us the Viet Nam war, it was entered into by JFK, escalated by LBJ and ended by President Nixon. The bottom line is, if we were going to enter it, we should have entered it to win and hold terrority. We didn't. We fought and we gave it back. (LBJ's strategy)

As to Iraq. For you to categorize the USA as "invaders" does not make it so.
The minority can be represented in Iraq just as the minority is represented in the USA. They don't need to kill, maim and destroy to be heard. I do hope that your call to bring back Saddam is said in jest. I can't imagine any reasonable person considering that as a viable option. The Iraqi people wouldn't have it.

 

[Charade]

Has Bush found the WMD's yet?

 

[Captain Capslock]

Well there ya go! Instead of railing against our president for the war in Iraq then, be part of the solution and support the ongoing effort to make Iraq a free and stable country. It has to succeed if there is to be any peace in the middle east.

DON'T WORRY CITIZENS - I'M FROM THE INTERNET.

DAWNCT1 - YOUR ATTEMPT TO WIN SUPPORT FOR A WAR IN THIS PATHETIC FASHION RAISES MY SIDEKICK'S EYEBROWS. MY SIDEKICK, BONZO THE JELLYFISH, DOESN'T EVEN HAVE EYEBROWS TO RAISE, SO YOU CAN SEE THE SEVERITY OF YOUR PROBLEM.

SUPPORT OF A WAR IS A MORAL DECISION TO BE MADE BY ALL CONCERNED, NOT SOMETHING TO BE PUSHED UPON YOU BY BY SAYING "OOPS, LOOK WHAT WE DID, NOW LET'S ALL OF US CLEAN THE MESS UP".

AMMEND YOUR OPINION AND GRUESOME APPEARANCE IMMEDIATELY OR BE DESTROYED BY MY FORCES OF ALL THAT IS GOOD IN THE MULTIVERSE.

 

[Charade]

DON'T WORRY CITIZENS - I'M FROM THE INTERNET.

DAWNCT1 - YOUR ATTEMPT TO WIN SUPPORT FOR A WAR IN THIS PATHETIC FASHION RAISES MY SIDEKICK'S EYEBROWS. MY SIDEKICK, BONZO THE JELLYFISH, DOESN'T EVEN HAVE EYEBROWS TO RAISE, SO YOU CAN SEE THE SEVERITY OF YOUR PROBLEM.

SUPPORT OF A WAR IS A MORAL DECISION TO BE MADE BY ALL CONCERNED, NOT SOMETHING TO BE PUSHED UPON YOU BY BY SAYING "OOPS, LOOK WHAT WE DID, NOW LET'S ALL OF US CLEAN THE MESS UP".

AMMEND YOUR OPINION AND GRUESOME APPEARANCE IMMEDIATELY OR BE DESTROYED BY MY FORCES OF ALL THAT IS GOOD IN THE MULTIVERSE.

QUIT YELLING.

 

[JoeEpcotRocks]

I agree with Bill Maher--Bring Back Saddam!

I hope you and Bill just have a weird sense of humor.

Advocating the return of a terrorist supporter and brutal dictator known for the ordering the rape, torture, and murder of his own people, including children, is not very funny. Or, perhaps you are just trolling.

 

[JoeEpcotRocks]

Another Bushie who can't grasp the fact the choir they're preaching to is getting smaller and smaller.

And those 5 green guys represent your full choir.

(I cracked myself up with that one. )

 

[Captain Capslock]

As to Iraq. For you to categorize the USA as "invaders" does not make it so.
The minority can be represented in Iraq just as the minority is represented in the USA.

MY AWESOME SUPERPOWERS OF JUSTICE AND FREEDOM ARE CALLED UPON ONCE AGAIN TO SUBDUE YOUR RANTINGS.

FROM THE CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK DICTIONARY FOR YOUNGER READERS:

INVASION

an instance of invading a country or region with an armed force : the Soviet invasion of Czechoslovakia | in 1546 England had to be defended from invasion.

an incursion by a large number of people or things into a place or sphere of activity : stadium guards are preparing for another invasion of fans.

AS YOU CAN PLAINLY SEE, WE ARE AN INVADING FORCE. RECTIFY YOUR ERRONEUS BABBLINGS EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY.

 

[Planogirl]

I also consider us invaders. When we enter a sovereign nation by force, no matter how mean the ruler is, we are invaders. Now we can argue all day as to whether the ends justify the means but we are invaders.

As for President Bush, I think that an unbiased entity needs to take a cold, hard look at the invasion of Iraq and whether is was justified to begin with. It is certainly too late to change that fact now but it seems possible if not likely that he will want to invade another nation supposedly because he doesn't like the rulers.